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Regional Heroin Discussion v. Sweet Sixteen (v16)

Never done oxys either but I did once get my hands on a hundred mil or so of Hydrocodone, in nearly pure liquid form, which was fuckin lovely. I was pretty opiate naive at the time and the first time I decided to do any was before work the next day. I was that fucked wen it hit me I just had to lie down, and conveniently worked in a hotel. My boss woke me up and I can remember her shouting at me and havin a go whilst I just stood there laughing. Got sent home, went into my home city and gouched the fuck out on some park benches for the rest of the day. Had a bit more respect for the remaining hydrocodone, nice stuff
 
blondin said:
http://www.medicines.org.uk/EMC/medicine/2579/SPC/OxyContin+tablets/

Compared with morphine, which has an absolute bioavailability of approximately 30%, oxycodone has a high absolute bioavailability of up to 87% following oral administration. Oxycodone has an elimination half-life of approximately 3 hours and is metabolised principally to noroxycodone and oxymorphone. Oxymorphone has some analgesic activity but is present in the plasma in low concentrations and is not considered to contribute to oxycodone's pharmacological effect
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Sure, 'up to,' but I've never met anyone in a position to say one way or the other who actually gets that much out of it. Everyone I know who's tried both oral and plugged/injected oxy agrees that those ROA's offer significantly stronger effects, which wouldn't be the case if they were only getting an extra 13% of their dose. Speaking for myself, oral oxy feels about 50 - 60% the potency of IV use. I compared it quite frequently when I first started playing around with needles, and most of my friends who've done the same give similar numbers. There might be people out there who do get 87% BA from oral oxy, but it's not enough of the population to quote that number like scripture the way a lot of people do on BL.
 
Iv'e swallowed, sniffed and shot them and I cant really say any one method was significanyly better than another BUT I have only ever shot a small amount as I could never get a clear solution.
 
Yeah swallowed/snorted are pretty similar, but IV pulls ahead of both of them. To give you a comparison, I started IVing when I was taking around 200mg at a time, swallowed, and once I got the technique right I was getting a stronger high off injecting only 100mg, and that's when my use was actually going up (not due to the IVing, I had recently found an awesome hookup). I went back and tried oral a few times because people kept saying 'ehh IV is a waste of time etc etc,' but had the same result ever ytime.

Definitely worth a shot if you already know your way around a needle, though you probably want to use some micron filters, the amount of binders left in the solution after running it through cotton is scary. The rush doesn't really match smack, but it's still much more bang for buck.
 
Hey Crank
I'm getting some oxy this week . I have never used them i.v & i don't have micron filters , i'm curios but a bit apprehensive . Is it that much better to warrant the possible fuk ups .
I'm pretty handy with pins but i use a 23g 11/4 " or 0.6/ 30mm needle which is pretty damn big .
 
If you were going to do it regularly I'd say absolutely get the filters, but once or twice isn't going to kill you. I've done it 2 or 3 times when I ran out of filters over the weekend and I was just extra careful when running it through the cotton, the solution in my syringe ended up looking perfectly clear, though I know it still had plenty of binders in it too small to see. As far as I can tell, it didn't do any permanent damage, though you'd probably want to be careful to avoid missing the shot.
 
Thats the other problem i have no veins left apart from one i can sometimes hit. I was in hospital once with deposits on my heart valves from hitting up stuff that wasnt propely filtered hence my worry.AND I CANT BE ARSED TO GO ONLINE TO GET WHEEL FILTERS whioopscaps as i would hardly ever use them.

also as i get my oxy's at a good rate i dont really care if i need twice as much - if i was paying 20-30quid a pop i might think differently!
 
blondin said:
Thats the other problem i have no veins left apart from one i can sometimes hit. I was in hospital once with deposits on my heart valves from hitting up stuff that wasnt propely filtered hence my worry.AND I CANT BE ARSED TO GO ONLINE TO GET WHEEL FILTERS whioopscaps as i would hardly ever use them.

also as i get my oxy's at a good rate i dont really care if i need twice as much - if i was paying 20-30quid a pop i might think differently!
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Yeah if the price doesn't bother you oral is a good option, I know I'd just eat mine if I can afford it. The veins would be a problem too, you usually need more water than a normal shot of H or w/e to get all the oxy out, and the smaller veins don't seem to take it very well.
 
I have 13 10mg of these oxys but have never took them afore am thinking off breaking them up and swallowing them...am not really sure how many to take l have a high tolerance to any drug a take so not sure how much to gub and a got them for £2,50 each..could anybody tell me how long their in your system for cause am tested next tue at DTO
 
Cornishman said:
I was looking on exchange supplies website and it seems they make an alternative to wheel micron filters.

http://www.exchangesupplies.org/shopdisp_S314.php

My local exchange won't stock em though, due to budget issues.
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these are an alternative but filler still goes thru. i think. tried to shoot etiz pill (in whiskey) one time and injected about 0.1ml in before i realised i'd missed, really tuff pushing plunger/still got a lump 4 weeks later, pretty sure i used one of these as my local exchange has them, but maybe not as i was drunk enough to try that. with h the filter goes all manky brown so they do do something. i would rather use them over a cotton.
 
ructions said:
Yeah it was better then last time i scored, still not pre-drought though, but i beginning to think we'll never have that again.....
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Hey Ructs.

How's things??
Hope life is treating you well.

Things in Ireland aren't great at the moment. The decent stuff that was around lately ran out a week or 2 ago.
There's alot of new stuff around. So far I've had 5 different types in the last 2 weeks but they are all shite.
Got new stuff today that was the best so far but still not great although I'm very grateful for it & the new contact.
Hopefully a new batch will come in soon & it wont be danced on as much (fingers crossed)

Hope everyone's OK. Ructs I'll talk to you soon & keep in touch. Thanks.
 
cazamac said:
I have 13 10mg of these oxys but have never took them afore am thinking off breaking them up and swallowing them...am not really sure how many to take l have a high tolerance to any drug a take so not sure how much to gub and a got them for £2,50 each..could anybody tell me how long their in your system for cause am tested next tue at DTO
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can only speak for myself and i dont have a big habit but when i do oxy's i will do 2-3 in a day (160-240mgs) usually one followed by halfs. I think that 160mg of oxy is equivelent to 50mg of 'done - to my body anyway
 
had 2 bags of really really nice dope the other day sso its still good going up here, ii got 1 a few days before that was similar to the dark stuff but it was not good to smoke at all but ok in the pins, the light stuff i got was a really nice smoke similar to stuff i a fortune for online from the uk
 
got some wikid stuff today wasnt planning to but my mate called up and i had some money burning a hole in my pocket.... given that i had 50mg of 'done and had an oxy split in two and taken at 10am and 12.30 It is proper strong gear as i smoked about .15 at 3pmn and was nodding like a churchill dog in my car for a couple of hours.

Nearly fucked up this morning i had a few drinks last night and 20mg of valium to which i have next to no tollerance - I was watching Derren brown (I saw the same live show last year and it was fucking ace) and dont remember anything after that and only saw the 1st half hour.......anyhoo at 7.50am one of my girls comes in the bedroom and says

' when are we going to school daddy'

I lept out of bed grabbed what ever clothes i had handy and just got the elder one to the school bus as it was coming in and dropped the other one off pheeww I would have got my balls crushed by 'she who must be obeyed' if I had fucked that up.

Thats one of the advantages of doing gear as i get out of bed the minute the missis leaves for work to have a smoke.

So in conclusion I have to continue to take heroin in order to ensure my kids get a proper education...
 
Blondin,

I have to agree , the best alarm clock is knowing you have that first morning boot to set you up for the day .

Hey Brimz,

Just wondering mate, are you paying your man in the new Bristolian currency ? It says they can only be spent with local independant traders ! The £5 er's inspired by Banksy are classic .
 
louie the 16th said:
Blondin,

I have to agree , the best alarm clock is knowing you have that first morning boot to set you up for the day .

Hey Brimz,

Just wondering mate, are you paying your man in the new Bristolian currency ? It says they can only be spent with local independant traders ! The £5 er's inspired by Banksy are classic .
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I dont think local dealers are accepting them louie lol, unless theyre buying there weed wholesale from local companies that grew it in the city
 
I made some currency send me a SAE and you can have 5,10,20,50 blondollers at a special BL rate of 4,9,19,49 £££. All
'traders' will except them - promise and if you buy in bulk can give discounts.
 
Stuff is GOOD here in the West of Ireland,... coming from Dublin obviosuly tho so i dont know how there is nuthin good there. Weird... Although I will say although its quite good it might be a little weaker than it was 2 weeks ago.. Plus the deals are shit
 
opiaterock said:
Stuff is GOOD here in the West of Ireland,... coming from Dublin obviosuly tho so i dont know how there is nuthin good there. Weird... Although I will say although its quite good it might be a little weaker than it was 2 weeks ago.. Plus the deals are shit
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Lol so not that good then really?!

One thing this drought really has highlighted is the massive difference in the quality of gear that one person thinks is 'fire' and another muck. Reckon its more than just peoples individual tolerances or experience in the heroin 'game', as Ructions has spoken of people with long habits who still think shit gear is decent. I think some people are a lot more susceptible (sic?) to the effects of heroin, me personally I struggle to get a gouch off of gear and its never made me slur me speech or anything but have sat wiv people smoking the same tackle and theyve been all over the shop whilst I would appear pretty straight. And some people can catch a nod off a .1 or .2, but I dont think I ever could, and I know its not down to quality either as some of the gear I was regularly scoring in the past came in at 60% purity. Do some people have way more opiate receptors in there brain or summit?
 
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