Quick goodbye to everyone.

zephyr said:
Mepat's mum- hope you stick around and maybe get your own screen name, you wont be the only mum on the board! :D

Mepat's mum- No doubt, I have a three beautiful girls myself. I don't know what I would ever do if something happened to them or if they were hurting and didn't tell me. You can talk to us to if you need to. I hope your son gets better.
 
zephyr said:
mepat1111: thank god you posted here in TDS- otherwise we would have lost another bluelighter. Its really refreshing to see your mum here reporting back as well. BL is really for the families of drug users as well, theres a few mums and dads of bluelighters around who care enough about their kids to find out about their often secret choice of lifestyle.

Mepat's mum- hope you stick around and maybe get your own screen name, you wont be the only mum on the board! :D

+1.
Mepat's mum: thanks for checking in and keeping us updated. I greatly respect the way you're acting throughout all this - if my son had just OD'd, I'd probably be quite angry at drugs and at people who posted on drug-related message boards.
 
Im so glad he's ok! I recently lost my father to a suicide simlar to this and i know how devastating it can be. I wish he had posted on TDS maybe we could have found him before he hurt himself. Yet another reason to love BL! Once agian, great job everyone.

Much love!
Realm
 
While I do applaud the efforts of the people that ended up saving this guys life (and it was quite an extraordinary event), I do somewhat agree with what Ravr was trying to say... Although I don't think he did a particuarly good job of presenting his side of the argument.

On one side, it is seen by many people as a moral obligation to try to intervene when someone makes an attempt at suicide. People feel the need to save someone from their own choice of death over life, because perhaps they feel that said person is making the wrong choice.

While it may be the wrong choice in one persons eyes, it is quite simply the choice that the person decides to make. What if they truly do want to no longer live? What makes us think that it is ok to prevent such a person from making a choice like that? After all, the right to live is the right of that person to live. They can choose to live or not to live. Who are we to step in?

That being said, if it was me in that position in that I felt there was no other way out but to take my own life, I don't think I would want someone to intervene on my behalf because they think they know what is better for me.

On the flipside however, I don't think I could hold myself back from trying to save another person if I were in a similar situation. It is human instinct and moral obligation to try to intervene when faced with such a situation.
 
From mepat's Mum

Hi everyone:
Pat is doing OK. Much more alert now but in some discomfort from withdrawal of the drugs. I'm taking a printout of all the messages you have posted since his message last night because he has no memory after he took the drugs until this morning. We're talking about the issues involved and how he gets his life back on track. Patrick is a really intelligent and sharp-minded young man and he understands that things have got to change. When he is back on deck I'll get him to show me how to get my own "personality" on BL so I can keep in touch. It's not an easy business, this "growing up" thing but life is too good to waste it. Love to all of you.
Susan
 
Susan,
Thankyou so much for keeping us all informed on Pats recovery. We were all very worried last night about him. Let him know that we are all thinking about him and look forward to when he is back posting and contributing to this wonderful community.
I think you should be commended on how you handled the whole situation, and I hope Pat realises what a great mum and family he has :)
Please give him our best wishes.
lil angel15 xoxo
 
All the best mate, hope to see you back in here soon champ.

Mepats Mum..........your right, he is a very intelligent kid and Im sure that this will prove to be a turning point in his life and maybe one he can look back on with a lot of happiness.

Just maybe it will turn out to be something special for all of you.................

Understanding, not judgement is gunna be important.

Good luck.
 
Bet you this good press doesn't make the news :( Unlike the other bad press ones that have.

Good to hear he is doing alright. I'm sure this is the arse kicking he needs to have a look at what's going on around him and realise there are people who care.
 
hey this thread made me cry a little. am really glad that Mepat is ok. I've spoken to him a few times online and always enjoy talking w/ him, he's a smart guy who I think would make a very cool friend. I hope that this does become a turning point in his life as some suggested before. I guess sometimes you really need to hit rock bottom in order to figure out how to reach the top again...
 
Just got a call from Pat from the hospital. He'd just like everyone to know that he's doing okay and he's read all your posts and wants to thank everyone for their concern, support and all your help. Hopefully he'll be back soon to tell you himself.
 
What makes us think that it is ok to prevent such a person from making a choice like that? After all, the right to live is the right of that person to live. They can choose to live or not to live. Who are we to step in?


Logical debate on such a deeply emotive subject is plain stupid! If you do not know the answer to this question you put forward then I trust one day you will!
Try asking his Mother !
 
I'm glad you are ok Pat.

Don't think bc I raised the issue of privacy that I did not value your life. I was just putting it out there.


As someone who have tried to commit suicide and having a NDE, the one thing that will always be sketched in my mind is laying down being aware, feeling cold, and seeing a white light and hearing a voice saying, "Not yet!"


I hope you get through this and make it in one piece. One thing I have learned over the years is that talking helps, don't let it bottle up inside. I have lost so much doing that.


Get well soon.
 
Church said:
This thread practically has me in tears. I love this place, and I love how strong of an actual worldwide community we are!


me too, and i dont even kno you guys! Its always darkest before the dawn. Much love Pat

xx
 
hoptis said:
Just got a call from Pat from the hospital. He'd just like everyone to know that he's doing okay and he's read all your posts and wants to thank everyone for their concern, support and all your help. Hopefully he'll be back soon to tell you himself.


Great stuff mate. Keep us posted aye.
 
zophen said:
Logical debate on such a deeply emotive subject is plain stupid!

Very emotive way of addressing a pertinent comment by bandontherun84, zoph, I think.

There's always 2 sides, and the welfare of mepat's family are but one aspect. Damn, if mepat himself was ready to stop caring about his mumwill feel, then who are we to become concerned? People face far worse state-sponsored atrocities in many many places in the world every day . . . I definitely believe it was not anyone from BL's responsibility to avoid suffering to mepat's mum if mepat himself couldn't be bothered with that. There was perhaps a limited one to save him because he is part of this community (depending on how you look at personal freedom). Perhaps.

In any case, glad you're back, mepat. I hope you are glad you're back, too. And I hope you will think deeply about your reasons for your choice to go out like that and that you will draw different conclusions after that. I really don't think suicide out of despair is a great way to go.
 
^If your family member loved one tried to kill themselves would you just say "oh well it's what they wanted" ? :\


Unreal this is, one cannot, if one cares about someone who is conflicted to such a degree, just stand back , there will always be hope of a solution eventually. Maybe someone in terminal pain, intractable problems of some sort , maybe!:|
Otherwise not so !
 
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