Esoteric Psychedelic Ideas and Revelations Inaction

[tBirdee]

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Psychedelics! :D

 

[xikito]

... I wonder what I would think of just lying quietly by myself!

Well.. try it out and find out for yourself! In my experience, it can a be very enlightened experience because it is easier to focus on the trip... or the trip to focus on you, depending on the viewpoint

 

[xikito]

... basically the mechanism in which life is able to experience itself

I cannot put this in better words...

I want to add something: In my experiences I've always felt that we are all the same entity: God. The same being experiencing life in all possible manners....
such knowledge impacts the way you interact with other people! Is very scary to think that "that old evil man other there" is me in "another time, with another view on life"... does anyone feel this too ? It is difficult for me to cope with this with all the hatred and evil in the world ... people that just want to hurt other people without any apparent reason ... that doesn't seem godly at all, and very far away from where I stand now! Sometimes I ask myself, what do I do in the middle of so many unaware people ? It looks to me that the world is taken by these people.... and believe me, as a guy that works at the "business level", I've seen many evil evil things... I still do and feel so helpless...
I have now started my own company because I could not cope with exploiting the younger people (just a small example of what I had to deal in my last job)...

Unfortunately I don't know many people, in real life, with this kind of view on life! I have a best friend, which had a major role in my first big trip (we communicated at a different level; no words needed), that also has his heart in the right place... but is just A friend! I feel so lonely ... I feel like deserting all of this and isolate myself in somewhere where I can hide from this cruel society... maybe thats my path.... but something inside me says otherwise! says to keep trying exposing the "truth" about life to people so that everything can be better here in this world... but I'm tired.. and i'm still soooo young....

Can we really make a difference?

 

[yougeekay]

all of the things that psycs teach us, many people learn when sober. i always wonder what seperates those people, i could have the same views as someone else, but they would really dislike tweaking on lsd. i just dont understand why.

edit: christianity for example, when you strip it down to its bear beliefs, its really quite similar to our ideas, yet most christians that actually practice that religion would cringe at the thought of psycs, and would probably freak out if they tried it.

 

[Raw Evil]

In my experiences I've always felt that we are all the same entity: God. The same being experiencing life in all possible manners....
such knowledge impacts the way you interact with other people! Is very scary to think that "that old evil man other there" is me in "another time, with another view on life"... does anyone feel this too ?

I've felt this way a few times. I'm currently building a myth around my understanding of this concept - that each thing capable of experience in this world is really just "me"-ness in another form. Perhaps that rock over there is what I will spend my next experiential lifetime as. Or my best friend. Maybe I'm just one entity that permeates the universe (aka God), and this fragment I call "my life" simply has limited knowledge and communication skills.

I've shifted my empathetic viewpoint as a result of this revelation. No longer will I ask myself "what would I want them to do if they were in my position?". The question is now, "what if it is me, right here and now?"

Can we really make a difference?

Of course we can - but to do so will require that we believe we can make a difference.

 

[Bomboclat]

From my 2C-B trip this past weekend:

I realized that we create false realities in our minds which we try to achieve, but because these realities arent really real we're unable to achieve them and thus we suffer. We long to be in a world which is not real, and because of this we dont take the time to fully understand what is in front of us. If we all took the time to focus on what is really "real" (I put the quotes as im a bit of a skeptic and thus dont really know what is truly "real") we might be able to minimalize our suffering.

Its time to focus on the right here and right now, and leave the what if's to when we've set our minds straight. Its when we free ourselves are we ok to let our minds wander.

 

[Raw Evil]

Consider this: whatever you see, whether eyes open or eyes shut, is the same stuff: brain circuitry. Everything we experience is always at least one step removed from reality.

 

[TheAppleCore]

Thizzerfershizzer -- a recent trip on LSD gave me very similar insights. Check out the Trip Reports subforum soon for my reflections on the experience.

And Raw Evil -- I have explored this concept thoroughly under the influence of psychedelics, and particularly dissociatives! When I was a kid, I was so easily prone to dissociation that a dosage of cough syrup recommended for cough suppression would throw me into an intense, strange, and often highly uncomfortable depersonalization, in which I distrusted my very senses. I remember complaining to my parents that my life felt like "playing a video game".

 

[Bomboclat]

^ aye aye chap!

From my LSD trip yesterday: You have a better chance of finding something when you're not searching for it.

Whilst tripping face at a festival I became a bit mentally lost and couldnt find my friend. It was when I stopped calling him that we found each other though, completely random.

When you take the time to calm down a bit and stop focusing on one thing and one thing only (in this case the phone I used to call him) you're able to find what you're looking for.

The universe will help you if you let it.

 

[swilow]

^Thats an excellent experience Psychedelics seem to allow us to act at in a more intuitive manner, as if you get in synch with the whole reality-machine thing running things without thinking about it (thats the key), you just flow where the universe's energy is already guiding you.

Thinking sucks :D

 

[Cohesion]

I think the most important thing is that we make legitimate people out of ourselves, and strive to better ourselves through legitimate and accepted means. Getting a good education is really important in this regard: you are many times more likely to be taken seriously if you are educated, this is a fact. Also I think its important to get involved with legitimate organizations, your unique perspective on an issue could be a turning point in the direction an organization takes especially if you've gained peoples respect and they respect your ideas.

Well put!

 

[Cohesion]

I am afraid to turn around and face the mountains, for fear they will overpower me. But I did look, and I am astounded.

This is a great metaphor for the mountains we face, obviously... My #1 mountain being addiction. It's good to "go out on a limb" and stand shakily, sober. Just because it hasn't been done before. And I need to know the other possibility. This life is not a dress rehearsal & the way the days and years are passing lately I don't want to look back and see that I lived an "unexamined life"... Here's to facing your own Mountain, each and every one of you. Good thread :D

 

[*Love*Lite*]

I just started Massage School in the mountains and am loving it. Something that I have thought about a lot recently is how we can make touch a more acceptable form of communication in our communities. Ive talked about this with my classmates and we've sorta come to the conclusion that it really is as easy as "reaching out and touching someone." Im talking, non sexually, non aggressively, but softly and sincerely taking someones hand when your having a conversation with them. Rubbing someones back when they are feeling down, giving hugs freely. Shaking hands with strangers and making a positive physical connection. Touch is something that is a little taboo in our culture, "dont touch her", "dont touch that", "this is my space, that is your space". Human contact is something that can be so positive yet some people never are touched and Im sure they crave it.

Take your loving touch and pass it around

 

[B9]

Watch out for loonies is my advice!

In every sphere including massage

 

[*Love*Lite*]

You see B9 in massage school they give you special loonie detection radar devices so I've got that one covered

 

[B9]

What are the giveaway signs of a loonie - apparently they can seem charming & helpful & sane so I've heard

 

[Raw Evil]

Touch is something that is a little taboo in our culture, "dont touch her", "dont touch that", "this is my space, that is your space". Human contact is something that can be so positive yet some people never are touched and Im sure they crave it.

Take your loving touch and pass it around

Why or how it became taboo is beyond me, but I totally agree: so much can be communicated by touch. We have so much skin with so many sensory endpoints that it seems nonsensical to me that we deny each other this potentially rich form of communication. We are capable of so much, yet we deny ourselves such basic ecstasies. Such is the nature of "common sense".

 

[*Love*Lite*]

Sounds like your speaking from experience there friend

In my experience loonies smell of thyme and organic compostable corn cups. They have a glimmer of crazy in their eyes and despite their charming and helpful demeanor they are ALWAYS mumbling something about Regan and the Unicorn assassins.

I would not recommend touching someone that you have bad vibes from, start with friends and family and let your gut guide you if you wish to partake on the touchy journey

 

[Roger&Me]

Watch out for loonies is my advice!

I've condensed this snippet of truth down to wallet-card size (not much condensing needed though really, just gunna pencil it on to a wallet card more like), and it shall guide me all my days. :D

 

[Bomboclat]

I just started Massage School in the mountains and am loving it. Something that I have thought about a lot recently is how we can make touch a more acceptable form of communication in our communities. Ive talked about this with my classmates and we've sorta come to the conclusion that it really is as easy as "reaching out and touching someone." Im talking, non sexually, non aggressively, but softly and sincerely taking someones hand when your having a conversation with them. Rubbing someones back when they are feeling down, giving hugs freely. Shaking hands with strangers and making a positive physical connection. Touch is something that is a little taboo in our culture, "dont touch her", "dont touch that", "this is my space, that is your space". Human contact is something that can be so positive yet some people never are touched and Im sure they crave it.

Take your loving touch and pass it around

This is really inspiring, and Im going to try to take this and input it into my every day life. You are 100% right in everything you said!

Thank you for this!