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Esoteric Psychedelic Ideas and Revelations Inaction

while on lsd at a festival and taking part in an open discussion of all topics...

Every thing we feel, happy, sad, argry are all a beautiful part of the human experience and we should cherish the bad as much as the good, being able to feel these extreme emotions at any level is a miracle and all a part of the ride, enjoy it.
 
I find that one problem i've encountered with intolerant/closeminded people is that sometimes religions such as christianity can mess with their perceptions to a point where their thoughts are counter-productive to the very purpose of religion in the first place. I mean, the conservatives who bash on abortion so vehemently but then condone and even support the funding of war and violence on some distant corner of the world? COME ON! my point is, some people are SO blind to our true purpose that they literally refuse with religious fervor to change because of their delusion.

I say this here because i am asking for some condolence from yall. I just can't figure it out. how can we make a lasting difference with so many people like that around? its like the people in postions of enough power to make a difference are (to a major extent) either those that are grounded in their mundane delusions, to shallow to possibly understand, or to mindlessly greedy and corrupt to care.

Ill get off my soap box now, sorry for the outburst, I promise I have faith in humanity, i just don't know enough like-minded people in the environment Ive grown up in =(
 
hey im new to this whole forum thing so dont get mad cause i know im doin this shit wrong. im just wondering how to create a thread or post or whatever it is.i have a question about MDAI and caffeine. see im trying to come up with a nice mixture thats not too intense. MDAI is less of a stimulant and people say it feels like MDMA when you add a little something to it and im trying to stay as clean as possible and away from any neurotoxins. does anyone think this would work out?

heres what i plan on putting in each capsule:

150mg MDAI
30-60mg caffeine
 
Well we'll have to start with children's tv. Anyone noticed how the geeks, pretentious people, "weirdos" whatever the fuck you want to call them are always put aside as unpopular in childrens TV?

If I was paranoid I would say, the powers that be are trying to put people off learning and discovery and put them towards spending and arguing. Telling people how the world is through a box.. wtf.

So aye, I'm totally against using such methods, and I have faith that the psychedelic society will come around eventually through lovely dovely methods... I think. But maybe we could change TV so that the ignorant spenders are all unpopular wankers and the peaceful mind-exploring anarchists are very popular.

Just a thought really, don't listen. I think the only way to go about doing this is by showing the world that psychedelic drug users can be great people, show them no reason to doubt us, spread the word, tell people of the benefits, advance through society in order to do psychedelic research, get into positions of influence where we can help change opinions about what's going on around us and generally raise public awareness of their closed eyes. We need to be really creative about it. Avoid what we dislike about society, teach our beliefs onto other generations, change the system then dissolve it.

I'm just spouting words, but hopefully someone will create some sort of thought out of what I've said here.. it never needs to make sense.
 
changerofways said:
I find that one problem i've encountered with intolerant/closeminded people is that sometimes religions such as christianity can mess with their perceptions to a point where their thoughts are counter-productive to the very purpose of religion in the first place. I mean, the conservatives who bash on abortion so vehemently but then condone and even support the funding of war and violence on some distant corner of the world? COME ON! my point is, some people are SO blind to our true purpose that they literally refuse with religious fervor to change because of their delusion.

I say this here because i am asking for some condolence from yall. I just can't figure it out. how can we make a lasting difference with so many people like that around? its like the people in postions of enough power to make a difference are (to a major extent) either those that are grounded in their mundane delusions, to shallow to possibly understand, or to mindlessly greedy and corrupt to care.

Ill get off my soap box now, sorry for the outburst, I promise I have faith in humanity, i just don't know enough like-minded people in the environment Ive grown up in =(
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Maybe if we could just sprinkle like 2 tabs worth of LSD on everyone we could open up their minds and let them gain a true view on perception.

Yah, let's do that.
 
Equal Observer: Great post. :) I actually have been doing this slowly throughout my life (or in the last 9 years since I first took a psychedelic). Especially after I got out of college and started to grow up. Just recently I have gotten my parents to come around quite a bit. They were never rabid anti-drug types... you know, they smoked weed sometimes in college, but never got into it, drank plenty, they like to have fun and party, but they were very concerned when I was 17 and got caught getting high... their main concern was that I would get in trouble with the law, which is of course a valid concern. But they also didn't think there was any value in drugs, that they were just something to try in college, maybe, and then forget about because they could bring nothing but negativity.

So obviously I just kept using them, and more of them, without them knowing. Then they found out I tried ecstacy and mushrooms my freshman year of college and they had a little "talk" with me... my older cousin had gotten all strung out on coke rather recently then and was just getting out of a really bad place, and my parents were convinced that next time I came home I was going to be strung out on something.

Well, I did try coke... wasn't for me though I did it probably a few dozen times in total. But I really did get pretty badly addicted to opiates which I've only kicked in the last few months, after 6 years of solid daily addiction.

Of course, they never knew about that and still don't. But the point is that I was also into psychedelics the whole time and they've been a major catalyst in helping me to find my spirituality and through that, learn how to be a better person. And for the longest time I couldn't say anything about that to them. But recently my mom and I have had some surprisingly open discussions on the phone about marijuana and how it should be legalized and how it can help a lot of people (this was after I felt open enough to tell her that my wife and I had gotten high with her ailing father for the first time when we visited him recently). Despite the fact that before I moved away he had made me promise him that I would never smoke again (let alone do any other drugs), he just thought it was nice and told me that he's got to admit, there are clearly many medical uses and that it's close to being legalized and it's obviously better than alcohol (which he likes quite a bit). Basically, he could see that I'm doing well despite using substances, and he showed me that he respected that, which is really big. I've started dropping small clues about psychedelic use and its impact on my life... I definitely have been talking with them about spirituality and other results of my psychedelic use for a while now.

So I guess I'm trying to say I'm excited about this direction. :)
 
Psychedelics for better or worse trigger paradigm shifts in our society. Look what the widespread use of LSD in the 60s did for art, culture, and technology. Kerry Mullis claimed he would have never developed the polymerase chain reaction had he not tried LSD. Many of the people who built the internet were acidheads, as were many of those who now run the major tech industries. True, correlation does not equal causation, but I see examples of this so often that it's one hell of a fucking co-inky-dink.
 
Well this is my first time seeing this thread and it is, in fact, quite long but I will add my musings in here from my ++++ I had with methylone tonight (yes, methylone).

When I started to peak, I came up so hard I thought 201mg was too much so I popped a klonopin which smoothed things out. I don't know if this affected it or not. Anyway I was talking with a friend of mine online when suddenly I became aware that every keystroke I made was sending out energy and in my mind's eye, I saw the energy go from the keyboard to the computer and then eventually be burned up and released into the room as light blue streaks... so I figured I would try and get in her head. Mind you she is an online buddy... Sure enough, I connected with her and talked her down through some pretty serious self esteem issues.

Next thing you know, I'm feeling another dimensional space... Being an Indigo this is supposedly not unusual but this didn't feel like the fourth dimension or anything it felt much higher... for a matter of a minute or so, I was in the center of cosmic thought - the entire thought pool for everyone on the planet... The collective consciousness as it were... So I played around with it and shuffled some things around to get a sort of what people think about the most. Sex, drugs, and something else which is escaping me right now were at the top of the list... not really surprising. What was unfortunately surprising is how few were invested in the "new spirituality as it were", the spirituality which we Indigos were sent here to blaze the trail for and the Crystal Children that follow us will then bring about the transformation.

I then brought up a map of the world. Interestingly enough, India is the most spiritually evolved country... They are at the point now where a good 50% of the spiritualists could raise their vibrational energy up to the point where they would no longer exist on the physical plane (if you haven't read the Celestine Prophecy, read it and you will understand - if you're lazy like me - watch the movie - though I definitely recommend reading the book, its very intense). The US is the bottom of the rung. I was even able to deduce how it all happened. The government has been dumbing us down from years. From adding fluoride to the water, which is actually a chemical byproduct of aluminum manufacturing that they had nowhere else to put so they made up a fake study about fluorite protecting the teeth. This couldn't be further from the case. Google it if you don't believe me. Also, for years, they've been etching away our freedoms, which has been pissing us off, but also not making us realize the laws that are flying right under our noses. Did you know that Halliburton contracted with Bush to build detention centers all over the country, essentially much like concentration camps - with the same purpose (not for exterminating the Jewish though- even worse - coming after the "terrorists" - the free thinkers that won't take what they're given as the ultimate truth. Once these go live anyone who doesn't like you calls a number, reports you for being a terrorist and you are subjected to legal (illegal) torture which will include testing of toxic agents on us.

I'm going to split this so as not to have it all jumbled together. Its still rather fresh so I wanted to get it all out.

Okay so when Obama came in the office, everybody thought things would change. They haven't. In fact, Obama supports the concentration camp idea because freedom of thought is dangerous to government.

Their next attack though, nobody really pays attention to - the very food that we eat! They have purposely degenerated the viability of various plant seeds for years with the intent of destroying the nutrient content. Did you know an organic carrot has 1700% more pro vitamin A than a traditional, conventional grocery carrot? Has anybody else noticed that food labels are starting to show less and less good things in their food, even in organics? The RDAs set are already terribly low. There is no reason why pomegranate juice, one of the most anti-oxidant rich juices, should have almost no vitamin and mineral content. Well check that label closely - its reconstituted. Almost all concentrates are devoid of a good 90% or more of their nutritional content.

Finally, out comes aspartame (proven to not only cause Alzheimers, various cancers, and damage to the kidneys among other things) and monosodium glutamate. Aspartame was originally developed as a rat and ant poison. If you stick packets of aspartame in the cupboard for a year, they turn back into what they came from, methyl alcohol - lovely that we put that in our bodies. Monosodium glutamate is the next thing that they've used. MSG is the single largest contributing factor to obesity in the world. When used in small amounts, it is actually good for you because it stimulates the glutamate receptors in the brain and can help keep the checks and balances. Guess what though? Its not small amounts being used. Large amounts of MSG attack both the thyroid AND the hypothalamus - once the latter is destroyed, there is no getting it back, there are no drugs natural or otherwise to take care of it, and it performs many essential functions INCLUDING making sure our weight is managed.

Oh yes one more thing - GMOs and raw food. GMOs have been proven around the world to NOT be the equivalent of their non-GMO counterparts. Monsanto, the main proprietor of GMO products (and ironically MSG as well), states that these GMOs were made to make the plants hardier, increase crop yield, etc., but really all of this has been done WITHOUT genetically altering plants for thousands of years. Look at potatoes and tomatoes. Did you know they are both considered nightshades (the same family as Belladonna, Datura, etc)? Indeed - potatoes when allowed to sprout will actually produce minor amounts of tropane alkaloids which can make you sick - I imagine if you eat enough sprouted potatoes, you could potentially get a deleriant high but mostly they are known for making people sick, particularly when the tubers are bright green and the potatoes aren't cooked. Tomatoes had to be cross-bread as well. There is no need for GMO as all of this can be done with selective breeding.

The final stab for the physical health of the American public - the pharmaceutical industry. We live in a nation of sick care, not health care. We are given a pill to treat one condition (such as an antibiotic) which causes side effects such as diarrhea so we are given another drug (like Pepto) which causes side effects as well - we keep compounding drugs to get more side effects... Get to the ROOT of the problem and attack it from that angle. Did you guys know about the story that was published about pharms recently? Over 85% of them are COMPLETELY ineffective. But a lot of them do brain damage as those of us on benzos (like me) or have taken benzos or antidepressants tend to know all too well.

Education was the next attack. I don't think I need to go into this anymore there. There is enough said but I'm happy to elaborate for anyone.

Another thing that I learned while I was in the collective consciousness, even devout Christians question their church and their methods... As a matter of fact, the more devout the Christian, the more they actually truly question their faith in most cases. They are told that God forgives all... except women are evil, gays all go to hell, everyone that isn't Christian will go to hell, etc,. This gives people a belief system but anyone that has a brain has to understand that the bible is not the word of God. It was most likely passed down through the collective consciousness in the universe to man but what man did with that knowledge is what man always does best - adopted it to what fit the situation. This questioning is ultimately what will bring about the revelation and the end of spirituality as we know it and the emergence of something far greater, our ascension out of this plane of existence to join those that ascended before us such as the Atlanteans, the Mayans, the druids, and the Egyptians.

The last thing that I organized in the collective consciousness is where the spiritual evolution is going. Sadly, it is not going as quickly as it should... However, as the unemployment raises, inflation keeps happening, people are going to lose faith in "God" in the Christian sense and also in the government. There will definitely be another revolution and its going to happen against modern religion, the government, and corporations all at the same time. And its not that far away.

All of this was basically channeled to me... I've visited the collective consciousness before but I was never able to access it like THIS... rather I just existed as nothing but conscious thought... here I retained my ego and knew who I was (a light bringer that has faced many challenges and will face many more) and I was given glimpses into things that are incredibly sacred.

The craziest part about all of this? This was all done with my eyes open... I saw it all happen through Ajna (the third eye) and Ajna is almost always closed because I have a blockage of Kundalini in my solar plexus on the energy line BEFORE manipura... So I don't know where that energy came from but it opened my third eye with the others shut down.

Call me crazy if you want but that's pretty damn detailed and most of the information can actually be verified. There was a lot more, so much more... I've had ++++'s before but they completely and utterly pale in comparison to this... Now I'm just sitting here reflecting on things, still quite rolling well, and feeling like i just had a huge weight lifted off of my shoulders. I was even given a path to healing, which I thought Ayahuasca would be the one to give me... Very specific energy vortexes to touch that are actually linked with the line of energy that connects the various chakras and also how to reset the Kundalini because it was my forcing Kundalini to move when I was a kid (yeah I could do full blown transcendental meditations at the age of 11) that started it and then performing energy work on people while rolling was the final straw and my energy system shut down.

Sorry for the long winded post... I'm still in awe of the events that happened... I spent what felt like hours there in the collective consciousness and it was really about 15 minutes of my extremely intense peak... and even further, I know how to access it again once I get my energy system functioning normally. I also learned about my inevitable transition to a Crystal Adult and the challenges that I'm facing now (anxiety, panic attacks, insomnia, depression, etc) I will continue to face until the transition is complete...

God what a magical experience. I'm going to add this to trip reports too.
 
Peace, and much Love.

My first post here, long time reader. I just wanted to add my own experience. I am of buddhist/shamanistic/hindu ideology, I came to my current beliefs and lifestyle with my first and only ever time smoking dmt as the real catalyst for the change. I was born raised and believed in christianity and was baptised catholic. I smoked dmt when i was 18, im 20 now, and ive used a myriad of drugs but fell in love with psychs. Using psychedelics totally changed my outlook on life. I live a better quality of life now than I ever had in my earlier years. Honestly, I feel like they matrix-style freed my mind.
 
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