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Xorkoth said:
AMT feels more nauseating than the others I've tried. For example, on DiPT I have never felt nausea. But if I eat AMT, I have rarely puked (though almost nothing gives me nausea, drugs or otherwise), but I have an uncomfortable/upset stomach for the come-up and have to lie down. I generally take AMT rectally for this reason... it doesn't hit the stomach and the nausea doesn't happen, and the general bodyload is a lot less too. The come-up is still a bit uncomfortable but not nearly as much.

Either way (oral or rectal), once the come-up is done, the bodyload disappears.
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You're so lucky about not getting nausea from anything lol. That's interesting though, thanks for the info. Honestly, I've been thinking more about trying rectal administration with some tryptamines lately, but I've never done it with anything before. How does it effect the duration of the experience, is it still fairly close to what it is orally? I've particularly considered doing things like MiPT and DiPT that way to avoid the purge, but especially for things like the former I'm afraid of it ending too fast, as even with oral administration the peak was over fairly quickly. I'd love to avoid that stomach trouble though, an even smoother experience would be lovely....

TheAppleCore said:
Yeah, I'm with you there. I love trips with a visual component. I think it makes them more memorable, too.
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Definitely, the most artistic moments in my trips always stand out in my memory for a long time. :) Lately I've actually been pining even more than normal for some good geometry, it seems like I've had a lot of trips lately that had visions, illusions, and distortions but not so much in the way of gorgeous, colorful fractals or patterns, or at least not more than faint, transparent ones. The closest I'd say I've gotten lately was DOC in early December which was beautiful, but that dose was still below the intensity I normally aim for with my trips too. I think that in a couple weeks though I may be taking an opportunity to try MiPT at 75 mg.... I have a hunch that that may liven things up for me. :D
 
Rectal admin is comparable to IM moreso than any other ROA. I find the total duration of the main effects to be about the same as oral, but the come-up and winding down are shorter. For some reason rectal admin seems to greatly reduce bodyload with just about everything, over oral. Unlike with insufflation, it doesn't seem to reduce the impact of the experience. Honestly it's a really great ROA, I used to use it a lot but these days it's rare just because I don't really get much bodyload anyway. I think next time I try 2C-E I will use rectal though (I used to vastly prefer it that way since I would get bodyload on 2C-E), and certainly whenever I get around to trying the AMT I have, as with AMT it's the clear winner.
 
IM, huh? That's actually quite interesting, I hadn't heard that before.... I've had DMT by IM administration before so I have a good reference for that too. I never knew that rectal administration could be such a good option.... I'll have to remember that for whenever I get the chance to use more phenethylamines as well, as for example the body load on things like the 2C-E is one of my only real concerns about using them too. I don't suppose you have tried it with any of the DOx chemicals?

Maybe I'll give that a shot for the first time with my upcoming MiPT trip, since having a stronger purge than before is really the only thing I have not been looking forward to about it. What would you say the difference in potency for rectal versus oral administration of tryptamines is, is it very significant? I was going to go with 75 mg orally, though even if it is potentiated a bit I might just stick to that dose rectally anyway.... 50 mg orally did not feel physically threatening in the slightest, I just feel like it will probably increase in psychedelic intensity more than linearly as the dose increases!
 
Kaleida said:
That's the kind of trip I'd like to have on it ultimately, after I've given it a shot or two at lower doses. How strong would say it was compared to other psychedelics traditionally taken for that level of effect, if you don't mind my asking?
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12mg of 5-MeO-MiPT was pretty strong, there were lightning flashing fractals all over my bathroom walls and when I turned the radio on it seemed like the DJ was shouting gibberish at me in a foreign language but if waited a few moments I could figure out what he was saying. I was pretty much stuck indoors, I don't think I could've navigated crossing the street safely (this was in a quiet suburban neighborhood)

I watched The Matrix one time on it and then afterwards I saw vivid CEVs of flying through neon green tunnels which would then turn into seductive women's faces with their tongues hanging out.

Uhhh...does that answer your question? :? =D

(And congrats on getting promoted to mod!)
 
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Rectal admin is generally twice as potent as oral, except for some reason with AMT where the potency doesn't change much from oral, if at all. It's true of tryptamines and phenethylamines I've tried it with. For example, with 2C-E, I take 16-20mg orally, but rectally, I take 8-10mg.
 
Yep - Rectal admin has been my go-to route ever since I started dabbling with 2C-X.

Completely eliminates any nausea, shortens the come-up, less material needed, more cost effective, got nothing but love for dat butt ROA.
 
You know how when you take a 25mg bump of ketamine to meditate a little then go to sleep, and wake up the next day to the gram of ket you had gone and a bag of mxe sitting out and open (with only ~100mg missing thank God)....

Fuckity fuck fuck fuck
 
^ This is why I keep my stash locked up in a combination lock box when not in use ;)
 
zn13bt said:
^ This is why I keep my stash locked up in a combination lock box when not in use ;)
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Yeah but what if your fucked up self knows the code??? Dun dun dun!

I keep mine in a basic lock and key safe, more to keep others out and safe than to keep me out, as I've never had redosing problems, save for when I had too much MXE around. My short supply of it now keeps even my Mexxied up mind from saying yes, as when these last few grams are gone, that'll be that, no more MXE... even my intoxicated mind realizes it 8)
 
they make lock boxes that have timers on them. i've mainly seen them as a solution for people who have a problem with binging on junk food. but it would work for drugs too. :D
 
^Damn, I should get one for my disso stash. Even though I tell myself to wait a month, it's usually only a week or two between my MXE doses :\
 
240sxLover said:
Yeah but what if your fucked up self knows the code??? Dun dun dun!

I keep mine in a basic lock and key safe, more to keep others out and safe than to keep me out, as I've never had redosing problems, save for when I had too much MXE around. My short supply of it now keeps even my Mexxied up mind from saying yes, as when these last few grams are gone, that'll be that, no more MXE... even my intoxicated mind realizes it 8)
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That is why all the ketamine is gone and only a little of the mxe...

I think a timed lock box would just create more problems, namely other broken stuff from me trying to smash open locked box one day.
 
zn13bt said:
12mg of 5-MeO-MiPT was pretty strong, there were lightning flashing fractals all over my bathroom walls and when I turned the radio on it seemed like the DJ was shouting gibberish at me in a foreign language but if waited a few moments I could figure out what he was saying. I was pretty much stuck indoors, I don't think I could've navigated crossing the street safely (this was in a quiet suburban neighborhood)

I watched The Matrix one time on it and then afterwards I saw vivid CEVs of flying through neon green tunnels which would then turn into seductive women's faces with their tongues hanging out.

Uhhh...does that answer your question? :? =D

(And congrats on getting promoted to mod!)
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Yes it does, thank you very much! ;) And I can totally grasp what you are saying as well!! I took 8 mg today and was already blown away by the intensity, and I could very easily see those things you describe happening at 12 mg. 8o And now I am actually greatly looking forward to actually seeing them myself one day!

I have just posted this report report too, hehe. In case anyone is interested:

(5-MeO-MiPT/8 mg) - First Time - A Visual Masterpiece

And also, thank you very much. :D I'm glad to be on the team!

Xorkoth said:
Rectal admin is generally twice as potent as oral, except for some reason with AMT where the potency doesn't change much from oral, if at all. It's true of tryptamines and phenethylamines I've tried it with. For example, with 2C-E, I take 16-20mg orally, but rectally, I take 8-10mg.
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That's interesting about the AMT, but noted for the others. Thanks again! Maybe in that case I can try 50 mg of MiPT that way instead? If that's as effective as 100 mg I may even to get as many as four full-blown powerful trips out of my small supply by that route! :)

Fug said:
Yep - Rectal admin has been my go-to route ever since I started dabbling with 2C-X.

Completely eliminates any nausea, shortens the come-up, less material needed, more cost effective, got nothing but love for dat butt ROA.
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Another great review, I'm definitely being sold on the idea myself.... I'm greatly looking forward to see if all of these positives hold true for me as well!
 
Kaleida said:
Lately I've actually been pining even more than normal for some good geometry, it seems like I've had a lot of trips lately that had visions, illusions, and distortions but not so much in the way of gorgeous, colorful fractals or patterns, or at least not more than faint, transparent ones.
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In that case, you want DMT + Caapi. Perhaps DMT with a synthetic MAOI like moclobemide would do it too -- I've never tried it. But vaporized DMT after sublingual caapi extract produces easily the most detailed, vivid, colorful psychedelic geometry I've ever seen. No competition. Here's a report I wrote about one such experience.



Hey, are there any Richard Dawkins fans here in PD? If not, then perhaps I can convince you to read his books, by saying that the perspective I gained from all the scientific knowledge in his books was equally if not more mind expanding than all of my psychedelic trips put together?

Even better is both at the same time. :D I took LSD today and for some reason the theme of this trip is gene preservation...
 
^ Anything written by Dawkins that you would recommend in particular? I thought about buying "The Selfish Gene" a few times, but haven't got around to it.

Oh and AMT is truly a great substance... well a little too great maybe, as I ended up abusing it a bit too. 8)
 
Need to explore AMT properly, I never tried it beyond the old therapeutic doses of 5-10mg.

In other news, Ketamine is a hell of a drug.
 
tokezu said:
^ Anything written by Dawkins that you would recommend in particular? I thought about buying "The Selfish Gene" a few times, but haven't got around to it.
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Depends on how familiar you are with the basics of Darwinian evolution. You can't go wrong with The Greatest Show On Earth. It begins with a wonderful introduction to the theory of evolution, but it gets very thorough later on, and it was a great read for me even after taking an anthropology class in college. I've never felt such a sense of wonder for the beauty of life as when I read that book.

If you want something a bit more advanced, The Selfish Gene would probably be the way to go, although I haven't read that one yet; it's next on my list. Another slightly more advanced book (although still very accessible) that I can highly recommend is Climbing Mount Improbable.
 
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