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Xorkoth
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I'm not a big fan of vaping 5-MeO-MiPT. My favorite dose is 8mg orally. I get a sharpening of vision, brightening of colors, energy, and a great introspective/slightly empathogenic mindstate. Very clear-headed. I have heard that at higher doses it can get quite psychedelic, I haven't tried yet though.
AMT is a triple releaser, but curiously, unlike something such as MDMA/MDA, I actually feel better in the days following a good AMT trip. It doesn't have that same draining feeling (unless you use it inappropriately often). It's really top-notch as a psychedelic and empathogen, it's both at once. It's not going to twist your brain like LSD or the 4-sub-tryptamines, but it's definitely psychedelic and it produces a lot of love as well. It reminds me of mescaline kind of.
All this talk of AMT makes me jealous.I hope you guys enjoy your stashes. It's definitely something I'd consider trying some day if it came my way, but the monoamine releasing properties do make me nervous as those don't always play well with me....
AMT is a triple releaser, but curiously, unlike something such as MDMA/MDA, I actually feel better in the days following a good AMT trip. It doesn't have that same draining feeling (unless you use it inappropriately often). It's really top-notch as a psychedelic and empathogen, it's both at once. It's not going to twist your brain like LSD or the 4-sub-tryptamines, but it's definitely psychedelic and it produces a lot of love as well. It reminds me of mescaline kind of.
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AMT has a much longer biological halflife than MDMA, i would guess that is probably why there isn't a crash.
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So last Friday I went to a party with some of my good friends, and a couple of us ended up taking some 170mg doses of Methylone we all shared... I tell you what, I was floored. I was already a bit drunk by the time we got around to dosing, and by an hour in I was rocking back and forth in my seat, clenching and unclenching my fists compulsively, my teeth clamped together like a vice grip. I felt amazing, I was chatting peoples ears off, talking shit with strangers (unheard of for me), dispensing relationship advice, experiencing the amazingness of a comfy chair, and so on. It was only my second time trying MDMC, with my first time being 120mg and feeling lackluster.
I was just blown away by how hard it floored me, people knew I was messed up, I was getting real touchy and telling people that they were wonderful beautiful people even though I'd only known them a matter of minutes.
And then came Saturday... when I awoke I experienced the worst comedown from a drug I've ever had. I was straight morose feeling (still kinda am), and just spent the whole day kinda staring at the bottom of a beer glass in one way or another. My other friend who had dosed with me had the same problem. We figured it was probably because of how much we drank (I barely took in any water that night, I was a fool), but anyway you slice it, it was the stereotypical comedown from a roll. I really hope in the future that I can mitigate such symptoms with more responsible drinking and dieting.
Xorkoth, I don't know how you can handle dosing Methylone so often sometimes. It only took one dose to throw me for a loop!
I was just blown away by how hard it floored me, people knew I was messed up, I was getting real touchy and telling people that they were wonderful beautiful people even though I'd only known them a matter of minutes.
And then came Saturday... when I awoke I experienced the worst comedown from a drug I've ever had. I was straight morose feeling (still kinda am), and just spent the whole day kinda staring at the bottom of a beer glass in one way or another. My other friend who had dosed with me had the same problem. We figured it was probably because of how much we drank (I barely took in any water that night, I was a fool), but anyway you slice it, it was the stereotypical comedown from a roll. I really hope in the future that I can mitigate such symptoms with more responsible drinking and dieting.
Xorkoth, I don't know how you can handle dosing Methylone so often sometimes. It only took one dose to throw me for a loop!
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That oral dose range was good for me too if I wanted a light trip. But if I went up to 10-12mg then things got very visual and I'd hear audio crickets and such. But I was just using a milligram scale at the time and didn't know about volumetric dosing, so with the larger doses I may have been getting a little more than I'd thought I'd measured out.
Xorkoth
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Yeah methylone is a strong drug, the peak euphoria is pretty astounding, I describe it as cocaine-MDMA. I dunno though, whenever I take it very occasionally, there is literally no comedown for me. The best time I have had on it, I took 300mg and then 200mg an hour or so into it, at a festival (and I hadn't taken it in like a year), and I never felt anything but great, even the next day. I guess we're all just affected differently.
Even when I took it days in a row
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^Neither of us had experienced it before, my friend had tried it at 170mg the first time and had no come down blues, and neither did I when I tried it at 120mg. I'm fairly certain it was all the alcohol we drunk and the little water we had that caused the bummer Saturday.
Anyways, I think that the comedown was enough of a bummer that I'll be avoiding frequent use of Methylone. It was a blast and all, but some of the side effects were pretty concerning. Plus I had an allergic reaction on my neck (from hops I think, happens sometimes after only one beer even).
Anyways, I think that the comedown was enough of a bummer that I'll be avoiding frequent use of Methylone. It was a blast and all, but some of the side effects were pretty concerning. Plus I had an allergic reaction on my neck (from hops I think, happens sometimes after only one beer even).
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Xorkoth
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Yeah drinking a lot definitely increases side effects. Regardless it's good to not do empathogens very often so good call.
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Sounds good, I think I'll aim for around that with my first time.
Would love to hear that vaporization attempt goes too.That does sound nice, and really all I need for a first attempt. I'd like something that does have a psychedelic signature, but it can be subtle, I'm not looking to be blown away on the first go or anything. This will actually be my first 5-methoxy tryptamine experience period, so baby steps are fine!
That's good to know, it does make me a little less hesitant to try it. I'd definitely rather have it more on that psychedelic side, with the afterglow and all.... What are the non-mental psychedelic effects like, like the visuals and stuff? Are they comparable to other strong psychedelics too, or more subtle like regular doses of 5-MeO-MiPT?
That's the kind of trip I'd like to have on it ultimately, after I've given it a shot or two at lower doses. How strong would say it was compared to other psychedelics traditionally taken for that level of effect, if you don't mind my asking?
Xorkoth
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I know people who get full psychedelic visuals from it, but for me, it just makes everything glow and look beautiful, sort of like mescaline, and it produces haloes around lights and such. I don't use it for the visuals, I use it for the introspective state and empathogenesis. it's tactile too, quite tactile. I've had some of the best conversations of my life on it.
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Ahhhhh
It's beautiful.
Just like always, but for the last time! (every time)
I'm amazed. I did it.
4-FA, ETH-LAD, Cannabis, 1P-LSD -- uridine monophosphate and alpha gpc and the other stuff in my stack are having more than ancillary effects on the experience.
It's beautiful.
Just like always, but for the last time! (every time)
I'm amazed. I did it.
4-FA, ETH-LAD, Cannabis, 1P-LSD -- uridine monophosphate and alpha gpc and the other stuff in my stack are having more than ancillary effects on the experience.
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I can't take it anymore.
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Bob Dylan too friggin much and damn if they weren't right i will always play my sound
Or just knowing now how much it really was that I thought when I thought it.
And just thinking of now and doing it now I'm eating tuna fish and the sleepy head face seriously though.
Mr. Tambourine Man
Bob Dylan too friggin much and damn if they weren't right i will always play my sound
Or just knowing now how much it really was that I thought when I thought it.
And just thinking of now and doing it now I'm eating tuna fish and the sleepy head face seriously though.
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Finally tripped on 2cb with my partner, it's been a long time coming but I really feel it's brought us so much closer together
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Ahhh yes A wounding rod, with cork in its core, and a WILL to do anything
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That does sound quite nice.
I'm just a sucker for beautiful mathematics, so I always have to ask hehe. I guess my only other question then would be does it stay that way for the whole duration? Like are you in a stimulated empathogenic state for like the full 12-18 hours I always see listed, or does it switch gears at some point? That seems like quite a long time to keep a mostly introspective and social high going, or maybe I just tire easily lol.Sounds awesome, I'm glad you had a great time. :D Do you normally take nootropics/supplements with your psychedelics too?
Finally tripped on 2cb with my partner, it's been a long time coming but I really feel it's brought us so much closer together
Lucky! It's been like over six years now since I last had 2C-B, and I never got to do it with a someone special.... Sounds like a great time.
Xorkoth
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The peak of AMT (like from hours 2 to 6) is the most psychedelic and the most empathogenic. It then very slowly trails off until it's just a warm glow, but I wouldn't say it drastically changes its nature during that. It just gets less intense. it's stimulating in the sense it gives energy and removed fatigue, but I also find it quite relaxing, I can feel very comfortable just sitting around on it.
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^Is it hard to get over the nausea? My biggest fears with AMT are the fact that most people report puking their brains out the first two hours...
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Ah, that does sound like it'd be much easier to manage. I'd love to spend the first few hours with friends and then the last few walking around a forest in the morning or something, that's what I used to do with MDMA a lot and I loved it.
That lingering effect though would probably make it even more workable and give me the energy to keep at it longer too. I will definitely consider it if it ever comes my way!I can't speak from experience of course, but I wonder if it's anything like the puking from other empty-ring tryptamines like oral DMT? I have gotten this purge which seems identical to ayahuasca on oral MiPT and DiPT as well, so it wouldn't be surprising to me. If it's like them, it may not actually be that bad.... MiPT was the second psychedelic to ever make me puke period, but there was no nausea whatsoever leading up to the purge, I simply suddenly knew it was coming and did it, and I felt fantastic afterward. DiPT was a little harder on my stomach, but the majority of the discomfort came and went quickly like that as well. So, I would hope at least that it might be somewhat similar....
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AMT feels more nauseating than the others I've tried. For example, on DiPT I have never felt nausea. But if I eat AMT, I have rarely puked (though almost nothing gives me nausea, drugs or otherwise), but I have an uncomfortable/upset stomach for the come-up and have to lie down. I generally take AMT rectally for this reason... it doesn't hit the stomach and the nausea doesn't happen, and the general bodyload is a lot less too. The come-up is still a bit uncomfortable but not nearly as much.
Either way (oral or rectal), once the come-up is done, the bodyload disappears.
Either way (oral or rectal), once the come-up is done, the bodyload disappears.
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Yeah, I'm with you there. I love trips with a visual component. I think it makes them more memorable, too.
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