Recent wave of phens being...? I've been more out of the loop than I realized I guess. I only really know of bk-2c-b, unless you're talking about the nbome series as well?
I assumed he was talking about the nbomes and their ilk
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And yeah, the NBOMes are what I was referring to mostly. Those would be the genuine disasters, given their combination of often boring and potentially life-threatening effects. Though, I also have to say that most other novel phenethylamines I've read about lately have appeared, if nothing else, at least subpar, often seeming to follow the boring or mild trend for more people than you would expect older psychedelics to have that effect on, and there's also the risk of bringing in new unexpected forms of toxicity due to increasingly novel structural changes. While I do like the idea of exploring new potential psychedelic structures of all kinds, I really feel that the ideas that have been applied to phenethylamines lately have largely been recreational failures, and I would much rather see that effort put towards the unexplored tryptamines which I feel are likely to be both deeper and safer.
Though, I will say that I would absolutely love to see some new simple 2Cs show up. I really don't know why we still haven't had things like 2C-EF appear, that alone honestly sounds way better to me than basically any of the newer phenethylamines we do have. One day, hopefully!
Definitely looking forward to your reports Kaleida!
I feel lucky to be around in this "unprecedented time for availability of novel psychedelics". The doors might tend to be closing on a lot of these things, like what's happened in the UK, the China ban, the upcoming Canadian 2C-x ban. I've been aproaching it as get-it-while-you-can. Gradually, the door will re-open on the other end of some of the oldest bans, so eventually LSD and MDMA will become legit medical substances.
Right now in Canada weed has become quasi-legal, and heroin was recently given the thumbs up as a prescribable substance for addicts. I wager it won't be too long before MDMA and LSD (or maybe some other shorter acting 5ht2a agonist like psylocybin) become re-establised as legit therapeuautic tools. Already I noticed that in Canada LSD is schedule III, which means that it's legal to posses *if* you have a prescription. Currently I'm sure no doctor would write a prescription for LSD, but gradually this will change as a good medical case for LSD gets built up. GO MAPS! (etc)
I'll be making sure I include as much information as possible and make it as visible as possible, so just keep an eye out!
I really want this trend to catch on, I want everyone to know what potentials lie in these promising new molecules.
I completely agree with your perception of the current situation as well. The biggest reason that I am grabbing up all of these novel tryptamines while I can, other than just because they sound awesome and I've wanted them for ages, is because I can also see more crazy blanket and emergency bans on the horizon. As much as there is indeed a forward momentum for the older, more well researched and widely used substances, the governments clearly have not changed their stances on drugs being bad, and that means that the more publicity that movement gets the more they're going to retaliate and try to vanquish as much of the drug scene as they can. Unfortunately, due to the way these things work, I can also pretty clearly envision a situation in which those substances like LSD, MDMA, and even heroin for addicts or similar things are finally made fully legal and are accepted, and yet every single lesser-known chemical that was banned before then remains illegal and is mostly forgotten as time goes by. I really don't have much hope for a world where we research chemical lovers finally have the ability to use all the substances we want without any threat of legal troubles... though I sure would love to be proven wrong! However, until then I will absolutely also be approaching every interesting novel substance as if it will be my only opportunity to ever obtain any of it.
Still, the fact that there is such momentum for the more traditional recreational drugs is indeed quite exciting, and I'd say for the big picture is much more important than any of these novel analogues being able to remain around. It is a fascinating time to live in.
And that is great about LSD being schedule III in Canada! Maybe I need to move up there and open up my medical practice, haha.
I actually wanted to take MET today instead of the mild 5-MeO-DALT, but I ended up having something important to do during the day. It was so weak and short-lived that I might still try my luck with something else a little later on though....
Was gonna get TMA-2 and 6 and MEM as well. Bummer...
