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☮ Social ☮ PD Social Tripping Thread: Euphoric Rambles for Swirling Souls

Seriously jealous of all the good drugs you guys get. So out of the loop. Xor, cant find your post about your intense new years.

Not much up with me. I had a pleasant new years. Hung out with a friend and his friemd and watched him smoke crack all night while i drank beer and played guitar.

Im fairly depressed again but handling it in a mostly sober fashion and with rational thoughts.

Not much else w me. Gonna answer some pms and watch a documentary on richard nixon and sip beer.

How is everyone?
 
I am okay. Kinda depressed too.

I'm scared to really get too into 3-meo-pcp (can we come up with a name for this shit). I'm looking for transformation but not sure if I can do it via chemicals again.

AMT helps my mood a bit.
 
I'm good, just got back from band practice. We are working out being a 3-piece (keys, guitar, drums) and making a lot of progress lately. It helps that me and the guitar player both have loop pedals and I have an instrument that can be a great piano, or organ, or clavi, or various electric pianos, plus a synthesizer. We're starting to really not miss having a bass player much which is awesome because I was missing it really bad for a while.

Hope you guys feel better soon. <3
 
You can do without bass guitar though it does sound empty at points. Just go trap stylez, tune your kick drum :) The Doors didn't have a bass guitar, whatsisface played bass lines on his keys. Pink Floyd and Zeppelin didn't always use bass guitar either I think.

Gah I'm stoned. I started eating some eggs abs cheese, no more veganism, been odd but tasty. Cheese is pretty ace.
I might have an omelette :)
 
Swilow, my friend group calls 3-meo-pcp "Mania". I like it. I like being a maniac.
 
haha I love it more than any other drug effect. We need to look ways to induce it without 3meo

I feel like after a few grams of 3-meo-pcp over the 2016 awakened me in ways that psychedelics never did, but then again I always tripped only a few times a year before that.
 
Xorkoth, you have a digital piano? I have one of those: can do organs, clavichords, etc but it's not a keyboard that can do really synthy stuff and the keys are well weighed.

Swilow, overuse of 3-MeO is not recommended like that, trust me. I found extended binging only moderately successful to just kind of numb and stimulate me at lower doses, not enough to make me really trip or manic but just content and uppity, and even then it likely contributed to getting more depressed than i was in the first place. Actual higher doses are I think warned against enough by what seems like most who have done it, especially extended? If you get actual strong dissociation it may lead you to lose control over your dosage with possible incidents..

If PAWS then it just takes time, so faith to pull through and not make it too much worse or longer.. i really don't like working out but it makes me feel better, also spending more time producing music etc not on drugs could make you feel better about yourself? None of it easy changes, but with encouragement of a loved one, should work. AMT seems less irresponsible by a long shot, but Xorkoth might know about it's limits and what happens when you get too enthousiastic with it..

I think I find the non-manic 3-MeO uneventful and am not all that attracted to it, doesn't feel worth it even if the price is just being blanked out a little throughout the day. Emptiness seems preferable when you're in agony, but I find that it doesn't turn out to be a real improvement. Going through something pays off, but the main issue I tend to have with that is to coach myself ready to do it. On the other hand, you rarely hear people regretting it.

Archangel dust?
Angel lint o_0
Sure then I guess nangs are messiah farts..
 
Solipsis you referenced AMT, a friend gifted me some just before Halloween and I haven't touched it yet. Not sure what to expect from it really even after reading about it. He gave me two capsules, supposedly 18mg each. Dunno if I should share with someone or take am both.
 
Solipsis you referenced AMT, a friend gifted me some just before Halloween and I haven't touched it yet. Not sure what to expect from it really even after reading about it. He gave me two capsules, supposedly 18mg each. Dunno if I should share with someone or take am both.

IDK but 36 mg seems too high for a first time. I don't know how typically I react, but it makes me lethargic like wanting to lie down on the couch and having trance-like dreams while feeling pleasantly mellow from MDAI or something like that. I never have tried high doses, possibly it becomes more stimulating. Usually I don't have many side effects, but some of the times it does make me nauseous which then doesn't really go away like it does with most psychedelics. Ondansetron is probably recommended.

It is not much of a MAOI, but as you increase in dose like beyond 50 mg, to 100 and then even above... it apparently becomes a more significant MAOI even relatively speaking.

Very nice for mood, I have adored sub 10 mg doses before during winter time. Made every snow crystal seem sparkly, felt wonderfully anti-depressed. I don't know why I don't take it, it's one of the very few things I have on hand but maybe from being on dexamph script makes me avoid it (I'd like a day before and after AMT with no dex as a buffer).. 2C-E i also don't seem to get round to.
 
You can do without bass guitar though it does sound empty at points. Just go trap stylez, tune your kick drum :) The Doors didn't have a bass guitar, whatsisface played bass lines on his keys. Pink Floyd and Zeppelin didn't always use bass guitar either I think.

Oh we've got our drums tuned, believe you me, they spend so much time on that. Me and the guitar player are getting better every day at filling in the bass role between us. The Moog synth produces some of the fattest bass I've ever heard, I'm working on trying to emulate an actual bass as much as possible. We're getting to where it doesn't sound empty anymore. Though in an ideal world, wed have a bass player but it has to be just right, he has to fit into the close friend group, feel our music like we do, etc. Sucks that our old bass player joined another band though also awesome since those guys are great and a great connection to have as they're fairly well along their road to success.

Xorkoth, you have a digital piano? I have one of those: can do organs, clavichords, etc but it's not a keyboard that can do really synthy stuff and the keys are well weighed.

3 of them actually. A cheap entry level one set up in my office (only really nice thing about it is it has its own external speakers built in), a really nice $2000 dedicated digital piano that is sampled with a Steinway grand and feels exactly like a grand piano (my ex's but I doubt she'll ever come get it so it's mine now), and a Nord Electro 2 which has grand piano, 3 electric pianos (Wurliterzer, 2 types of Rhodes), an organ, and a clavi, plus various effects panels where you can add phasers, flangers, auto-wah, etc, and adjust the tones dramatically. Plus drawbars for the organ and some other stuff. It's my main instrument, almost every band you see uses one of the Nord Electros or the Nord Stage (which is the top of that line), one of the industry standards. Last night we got my piano tone sounding fucking incredible, with a combination of direct in and miked Fender Twin Reverb amp. Oh god, it was glorious.

The Nord has semi-weighted keys, I find it perfect, not as heavy as a real piano but heavy enough to provide great sensitivity.

I also have a Moog Sub-Phatty 27 synthesizer, that thing is a living beast I swear, it's got a personality and it sometimes just gets crazy and changes on me without me doing anything, sometimes to amazing effect and sometimes it causes me to fumble around, but overall I feel like I've gotten pretty good at producing an amazing solo tone that just melts faces and brings a really heavy and heady feeling to our shit.

I've got 2 expression pedals hooked up to the Moog, one to do the hertz filter wheel (which gives it a talking/vocal quality) and one to the volume. For the Nord I have a great loop pedal that can be a delay pedal too (though I am going to get a dedicated delay pedal so I can do both at will without having to bend down and flip a bunch of tiny switches), a sustain pedal and an expression pedal tied to the volume so I can do organ swells. Oh, and a rotor speed switch (the Nord has a built in rotary speaker simulator).

I want to get a loop pedal for the Moog too. Once I have a few more things I'm gonna be set, other than a really nice keyboard amp. I got a practice keyboard amp for Christmas and it sounds great actually but could never use it for a show unless I was just playing a solo gig. But I get to use my guitar player's Twin Reverb amp for now so it's not high priority.

Solipsis you referenced AMT, a friend gifted me some just before Halloween and I haven't touched it yet. Not sure what to expect from it really even after reading about it. He gave me two capsules, supposedly 18mg each. Dunno if I should share with someone or take am both.

Personally I find 36mg to be the lower end of a full dose, I try to take 50mg these days (rarely use it though, been sitting on 2 grams for a long while). Maybe too high for a first time though, but I don't really know anyone who found less than 30mg to be very worthwhile. I actually dislike it for low dosing, seems to just produce side effects for me. Also, important to know if it;s the freebase or HCl or succinate... the succinate is only 60-something percent of the potency of freebase so if it's succinate in those capsules, then it's more like maybe 11 or 12mg equivalent per capsule.

But yeah 18mg is a really low dose of AMT.
 
Damn, I wish I could add my bass guitar to your band Xor. I really, really gotta make an effort to find other musicians to play with...I guess after I get a car.

I wonder if my AMT (since you all are talking about it) is still any good. It is the freebase from 2000. Never took it. It is still white.

Read your story about your trip Xor. My sincere regards about your pop. Not much I can add except stay strong...which I suspect you are. What a difficult experience for you and your girlfriend to go through. On the other hand, experiences like that have a way of bonding people. Everything happens for a reason, all experiences have meaning.
 
Yeah that would be cool for sure. If you're ever in the area, you should definitely come by and jam with us. :)

I would think if your AMT is still white, it would be good. And I wish I still had the old-school freebase AMT... the AMT I can get now is the succinate salt, not only is it only 60% of the potency by weight, but it seems less powerful. Still nice though. And really cheap.

Thanks, yeah it's tough. It was uncomfortable for her, but she doesn't really know him, you know? She met him once before this trip. So mainly it was uncomfortable for her, and hard in the sense she could see it's hard for me.
 
Yea 36mg of AMT is lower than I would even take. The first time I used it was at 55mg and it was perfect.
 
Re: earlier discussion of thiophenethylamines. 2ct7 of 2000 vintage has not degraded. Last sampled in nov of 2014, it was as potent and wonderful as ever. Has always been kept in a vial at room temperature. This is the first time ive heard these compounds can degrade. 2ct4 and 2ct21 from 2003 are also still as good as ever.
 
I have a little t21 from that era in the stash box. It looks the same as the day I got it. I wouldn't koow if it's degraded because I never tried any. Tryptamine powders have turned grey or brown as they age but PEAs have always remained white.

I'm trying out some O-PCE tonight. I snorted 28mg divided in to 2 doses 30 minutes apart. I'm enjoying the dissociation, it feels pretty similar to DCK with possibly more of a positive push to it. I'll be able to give a better description after I've tried it a few more times. I was expecting a bit more, but I'm only an hour in to it and my dissociative tolerance is a bitch so we'll see...
 
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