Bill
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Good job buddy
I know me smoking newports around you didn't help
Also good luck with the taper, I'm proud of you for striving to not be dependent on that chem anymore
I know you can do it
Nice new av btw
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Good job buddy
I know me smoking newports around you didn't help
Also good luck with the taper, I'm proud of you for striving to not be dependent on that chem anymore
I know you can do it
Nice new av btw
coelophysis
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Sounds pretty gnarly if you can use it for the dankness as well. I can see why you invested so much a lot more now.
Speaking of bud, I think it's been about 4 months since I last smoked. I was okay until a week or so ago but I really wanna get thc'd
All I have to do is remove the tank that holds the nicotine juice and replace it with a top that you can put weed into. It produces barely any smell at all too. I usually prefer to smoke weed out of a pipe or joint if I'm on the go. But with the ecig it's quite fucking handy for stealthy situations.
I haven't blazed in about 5 months though, not really by choice. Just I'm still a bit new to my town and really don't have any connects. None that are very close at least. I figured a break can't hurt.
Thanks man. I can't remember did I have one of your newports? Being around cigs really doesn't bother me at all. In fact they're kind of stinky but I'm not really the type to complain about it. I have had a couple of cigarettes within the year so I'm not totally clean I guess. But the couple that I have had in the year really pretty much sucked. They were all proof that I'm over them now. The big feat is that I quit buying two packs of ciggies every damn day and my health is getting better.
And gotta keep with Looney Tunes gifs hah. I couldn't find a Ren & Stimpy one that looked good at 50x50
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Thanatos
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I suppose its probably best for both of us while we taper. I'm not sure what bud would be like now since I'm no where near as sedated now days. It's the only drug I can see myself using sustainably. I life getting drunk but I'm determined to stop using gabaergics, and alcohol is my kryptonite.
coelophysis
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I can't stand the booze. It just doesn't do it for me. As far as gabaergics go I like phenibut and really love GHB. But G is way too hard to get my hands on.
Weed would be my go-to every day drug. And it will be once I'm done with the benzos. I think after such a break from the green if I were to have some it would force me to want to take more benzos. So I'm willing to give up one of my favorites to get this hell-chemical dependency over with.
Weed would be my go-to every day drug. And it will be once I'm done with the benzos. I think after such a break from the green if I were to have some it would force me to want to take more benzos. So I'm willing to give up one of my favorites to get this hell-chemical dependency over with.
Thanatos
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^ I'm with you all the way on this one buddy.
xammy
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A few beers and some decent red wine are perfect for relaxation. Getting wasted not that much, even tho I used to do it until I found drugs (cannabis, hallucinogens). I also like the alcohol+weed combo 
Alcohol binges are different story. Its absurd: the more you drink the better it gets. I feel like first night getting very drunk isnt that good at all. You end up too drunk and possibly puking or just blacking out. But theres nothing compared to that hangover drink. It feels like heaven, lol. Before you even swallow that shit you can feel it helps haha. Also the intoxication next day seems to be more clear and you can get way more drunk being capable of enjoying it and feeling it. Tolerance is good thing when it comes to alcohol, lol. But when it comes to alcohol euphoria (which last like 10 minutes when coming up) isnt worth the hangover and withdrawal. Thats fucked up, how something which gives so little euphoria can give you the worst after effects?
Anyway I dont think I will never give up alcohol entirely, I love the taste of a good cold beer and good red wine.
Alcohol binges are different story. Its absurd: the more you drink the better it gets. I feel like first night getting very drunk isnt that good at all. You end up too drunk and possibly puking or just blacking out. But theres nothing compared to that hangover drink. It feels like heaven, lol. Before you even swallow that shit you can feel it helps haha. Also the intoxication next day seems to be more clear and you can get way more drunk being capable of enjoying it and feeling it. Tolerance is good thing when it comes to alcohol, lol. But when it comes to alcohol euphoria (which last like 10 minutes when coming up) isnt worth the hangover and withdrawal. Thats fucked up, how something which gives so little euphoria can give you the worst after effects?
Anyway I dont think I will never give up alcohol entirely, I love the taste of a good cold beer and good red wine.
Bill
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We were rollin face, of course you had a few 'ports
I think you even bought yourself one pack of cigs for that weekend and was done by the time I left
I could also be totally fucking wrong though, I did fall out on your kitchen floor lol
I think you even bought yourself one pack of cigs for that weekend and was done by the time I left
I could also be totally fucking wrong though, I did fall out on your kitchen floor lol
PepperSocks
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Re benzos; I know it really is playing with fire. The pleasant anxiolysis is so seductive and easy to do everyday. After quitting them when I quit stims I really noticed how the remaining groggyness motivated the stimulant use and vice versa. Without one I don't crave the other and normal tension level is much easier to deal with when not using benzos.
I should just stick to beer. I really have to exercise willpower to disregard that temporary pleasure in the interest of lack of long term displeasure.
I should just stick to beer. I really have to exercise willpower to disregard that temporary pleasure in the interest of lack of long term displeasure.
coelophysis
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Lol nah I bought you a pack of ports because I'm a really nice guy when I roll. I remember having one while you were hitting the DMT, none throughout the whole roll I remember that part specifically because everyone was lighting up all night and i was surprised that I didn't give a shit.
pharmakos
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Heavy Drinkers Outlive Non-Drinkers
Monday, Aug. 30, 2010
Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?
By John Cloud
Correction Appended: Aug. 31, 2010
One of the most contentious issues in the vast literature about alcohol consumption has been the consistent finding that those who don't drink tend to die sooner than those who do. The standard Alcoholics Anonymous explanation for this finding is that many of those who show up as abstainers in such research are actually former hard-core drunks who had already incurred health problems associated with drinking.
But a new paper in the journal Alcoholism: Clinical and Experimental Research suggests that — for reasons that aren't entirely clear — abstaining from alcohol does tend to increase one's risk of dying, even when you exclude former problem drinkers. The most shocking part? Abstainers' mortality rates are higher than those of heavy drinkers.
(See pictures of booze under a microscope.)
Moderate drinking, which is defined as one to three drinks per day, is associated with the lowest mortality rates in alcohol studies. Moderate alcohol use (especially when the beverage of choice is red wine) is thought to improve heart health, circulation and sociability, which can be important because people who are isolated don't have as many family members and friends who can notice and help treat health problems.
But why would abstaining from alcohol lead to a shorter life? It's true that those who abstain from alcohol tend to be from lower socioeconomic classes, since drinking can be expensive. And people of lower socioeconomic status have more life stressors — job and child-care worries that might not only keep them from the bottle but also cause stress-related illnesses over long periods. (They also don't get the stress-reducing benefits of a drink or two after work.)
But even after controlling for nearly all imaginable variables — socioeconomic status, level of physical activity, number of close friends, quality of social support and so on — the researchers (a six-member team led by psychologist Charles Holahan of the University of Texas at Austin) found that over a 20-year period, mortality rates were highest for those who were not current drinkers, regardless of whether they used to be alcoholics, second highest for heavy drinkers and lowest for moderate drinkers.
(Watch TIME's Video "Taste Test: Beer with Extra Buzz.")
The sample of those who were studied included individuals between ages 55 and 65 who had had any kind of outpatient care in the previous three years. The 1,824 participants were followed for 20 years. One drawback of the sample: a disproportionate number, 63%, were men. Just over 69% of the abstainers died during the 20 years, 60% of the heavy drinkers died and only 41% of moderate drinkers died.
These are remarkable statistics. Even though heavy drinking is associated with higher risk for cirrhosis and several types of cancer (particularly cancers in the mouth and esophagus), heavy drinkers are less likely to die than people who don't drink, even if they never had a problem with alcohol. One important reason is that alcohol lubricates so many social interactions, and social interactions are vital for maintaining mental and physical health. As I pointed out last year, nondrinkers show greater signs of depression than those who allow themselves to join the party.
The authors of the new paper are careful to note that even if drinking is associated with longer life, it can be dangerous: it can impair your memory severely and it can lead to nonlethal falls and other mishaps (like, say, cheating on your spouse in a drunken haze) that can screw up your life. There's also the dependency issue: if you become addicted to alcohol, you may spend a long time trying to get off the bottle.
That said, the new study provides the strongest evidence yet that moderate drinking is not only fun but good for you. So make mine a double.
The original version of this article misidentified abstainers (people in the study who were not current drinkers, regardless of their past drinking status) as people who had never drunk. The article has been edited to reflect the correction.
Monday, Aug. 30, 2010
Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?
By John Cloud
Correction Appended: Aug. 31, 2010
One of the most contentious issues in the vast literature about alcohol consumption has been the consistent finding that those who don't drink tend to die sooner than those who do. The standard Alcoholics Anonymous explanation for this finding is that many of those who show up as abstainers in such research are actually former hard-core drunks who had already incurred health problems associated with drinking.
But a new paper in the journal Alcoholism: Clinical and Experimental Research suggests that — for reasons that aren't entirely clear — abstaining from alcohol does tend to increase one's risk of dying, even when you exclude former problem drinkers. The most shocking part? Abstainers' mortality rates are higher than those of heavy drinkers.
(See pictures of booze under a microscope.)
Moderate drinking, which is defined as one to three drinks per day, is associated with the lowest mortality rates in alcohol studies. Moderate alcohol use (especially when the beverage of choice is red wine) is thought to improve heart health, circulation and sociability, which can be important because people who are isolated don't have as many family members and friends who can notice and help treat health problems.
But why would abstaining from alcohol lead to a shorter life? It's true that those who abstain from alcohol tend to be from lower socioeconomic classes, since drinking can be expensive. And people of lower socioeconomic status have more life stressors — job and child-care worries that might not only keep them from the bottle but also cause stress-related illnesses over long periods. (They also don't get the stress-reducing benefits of a drink or two after work.)
But even after controlling for nearly all imaginable variables — socioeconomic status, level of physical activity, number of close friends, quality of social support and so on — the researchers (a six-member team led by psychologist Charles Holahan of the University of Texas at Austin) found that over a 20-year period, mortality rates were highest for those who were not current drinkers, regardless of whether they used to be alcoholics, second highest for heavy drinkers and lowest for moderate drinkers.
(Watch TIME's Video "Taste Test: Beer with Extra Buzz.")
The sample of those who were studied included individuals between ages 55 and 65 who had had any kind of outpatient care in the previous three years. The 1,824 participants were followed for 20 years. One drawback of the sample: a disproportionate number, 63%, were men. Just over 69% of the abstainers died during the 20 years, 60% of the heavy drinkers died and only 41% of moderate drinkers died.
These are remarkable statistics. Even though heavy drinking is associated with higher risk for cirrhosis and several types of cancer (particularly cancers in the mouth and esophagus), heavy drinkers are less likely to die than people who don't drink, even if they never had a problem with alcohol. One important reason is that alcohol lubricates so many social interactions, and social interactions are vital for maintaining mental and physical health. As I pointed out last year, nondrinkers show greater signs of depression than those who allow themselves to join the party.
The authors of the new paper are careful to note that even if drinking is associated with longer life, it can be dangerous: it can impair your memory severely and it can lead to nonlethal falls and other mishaps (like, say, cheating on your spouse in a drunken haze) that can screw up your life. There's also the dependency issue: if you become addicted to alcohol, you may spend a long time trying to get off the bottle.
That said, the new study provides the strongest evidence yet that moderate drinking is not only fun but good for you. So make mine a double.
The original version of this article misidentified abstainers (people in the study who were not current drinkers, regardless of their past drinking status) as people who had never drunk. The article has been edited to reflect the correction.
Thorns Have Roses
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rog said:
I am hearting you so bad right now.
xammy said:
Yes it is, well, it was until the enjoyable:crappy parts ratio became 1:2 (and I'd put the euphoria at 20 minutes of come up, and semi-reliably achievable while slightly tipsy). I generally stick to 2-4 drinks, 3 days a week these days (of course there are exceptions). I'm trying to decrease drinks and days by 1 a piece.
And congrats to our Dutchmen for their speed skating dominance.
PepperSocks
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The Dutch invented it. Comes from skating on the frozen canals for transportation. When it comes to speed skating I cheer for my ancestral country.
I am kind of conflicted because Canada has some speed skating medals too. I am quite impressed by Canada's performance overall so far, second to the Norwegians by 2 bronze.
Ski slopestyle gold chick came out of the blue. Her run was miles ahead of the runner ups, and she's super hot.
Roger&Me
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i mainly just drink because i don't do any other drugs anymore. i don't even really like it, its just legal and available. that being said, i'm going to stop drinking again and make a concerted effort this time. i just can't have another day like today again, pure agony. plus its totally at odds with how i try to live my life these days, i'm big into clean diet & exercise, and trying to be a better person to the people in my life, and drinking totally undermines those efforts.
i love weed but i can't really afford to smoke it anymore. it cost me like 500 bucks a month when i was smoking every day. its surprisingly addictive for me too, when i was smoking if i would miss a day i would be a sweaty, anxious mess. plus it makes it hard for me to talk to people, and my job involves talking to people all day long and you just can't pull off being a stoner in the business world for long, people are always up in your face and yacking on about this and that and expecting you to pretend to care about what they're saying. i have a problem with eye contact when i'm stoned, too... its strange, its like the part of my brain that regulates body language malfunctions and i either hold eye contact too long or not enough and it makes me come off as a weirdo. i've never had that problem when i'm not high.
i dunno, being totally sober just feels really strange to me. its going to take some time to get used to it. i was high every single day for the entirety of my college experience, lol. but truth be told, sobriety is actually pretty nice. its like turning the volume down on life, it just makes things easier to deal with.
man, i'm happy to hear that you guys are getting off benzos. those things really fucked me up. i literally only have like 2 or 3 actual memories from the year i was on them. 2010 is just a giant blank space in my memory. like i remember '09 perfectly, and then nothing about '10, and then it resumes again in early '11 when i tapered and quit. i still get muscle twitches and shit to this day... its almost like withdrawal never really ends, you just kinda get used to it and forget about it. i don't understand how those things are easier to get than opiates. i mean, opiates can fuck your life up too, but benzos are worse in every way imho
i love weed but i can't really afford to smoke it anymore. it cost me like 500 bucks a month when i was smoking every day. its surprisingly addictive for me too, when i was smoking if i would miss a day i would be a sweaty, anxious mess. plus it makes it hard for me to talk to people, and my job involves talking to people all day long and you just can't pull off being a stoner in the business world for long, people are always up in your face and yacking on about this and that and expecting you to pretend to care about what they're saying. i have a problem with eye contact when i'm stoned, too... its strange, its like the part of my brain that regulates body language malfunctions and i either hold eye contact too long or not enough and it makes me come off as a weirdo. i've never had that problem when i'm not high.
i dunno, being totally sober just feels really strange to me. its going to take some time to get used to it. i was high every single day for the entirety of my college experience, lol. but truth be told, sobriety is actually pretty nice. its like turning the volume down on life, it just makes things easier to deal with.
man, i'm happy to hear that you guys are getting off benzos. those things really fucked me up. i literally only have like 2 or 3 actual memories from the year i was on them. 2010 is just a giant blank space in my memory. like i remember '09 perfectly, and then nothing about '10, and then it resumes again in early '11 when i tapered and quit. i still get muscle twitches and shit to this day... its almost like withdrawal never really ends, you just kinda get used to it and forget about it. i don't understand how those things are easier to get than opiates. i mean, opiates can fuck your life up too, but benzos are worse in every way imho
PepperSocks
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How on Earth did you get through school? I know of course there's some element of conversational exaggeration; without remembering anything from 2010 you wouldn't have the prerequisite knowledge for 2011. I found benzo use to be a significant cause of bad grades (a couple D's, luckily no fails).
I've never actually blacked out, but without exception once I took even a mild dose in the evening I would not be able to work. My energy got sapped and I fell under a total falsely comforting sense of having lots of time to do it tomorrow. When this happened all the time, the results were obvious.
The false comfort leading to lazyness and the accompanying cognitive disadvantages are the part of benzos that would ruin my life.
edit: The growing concern with alcohol is how after using it for a bit I'm less comfortable without it. In the evening I do somewhat crave it. Tonight I don't have any that's mine to drink and I sort of feel that it sucks and I would like to have at least one drink. There is still some anxiety in my life that causes me to be sort of drawn to alcohol, but I'm starting CBT therapy for it and I'm hoping it finds the roots and nullifies that desire for the drink.
About weed; I get that same thing as you. I can't look people in the eye when I'm on it and it brings out crippling social anxiety. I never smoke weed anymore; haven't smoked it in years actually.
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Roger&Me
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Fear.
and adderall.
it wasn't that i was blacked out all the time in '10, i was just kind of always on a steady background dose of benzos. i did pretty well that year actually. its just that nothing was encoded into my long term memory, looking back on it i can't really recall a single thing that happened.
and actually yeah, when i got to physical chemistry, i had to basically re-learn physics because i had no recollection of physics I and II. also i remember very little from general chemistry, but my research was in organic synthesis so the only thing i had to remember was how to calculate the percent yield lol. its amazing how useless that course is, honestly you could just start at organic and the first chapter of the textbook tells you everything you actually need to know from gen chem.
Thanatos
Bluelighter
^ I thought as much. Benzos don't do much cause a black out state as a retrograde amnesia state that is almost like a state of dissociative fugue. I've had years of my life go by where I know I was active and working, but I only know what I was doing from being told so by friends family. I dont really remember 09-early 2013. Not sure what kind of guy I was, besides that I've abused a lot of drugs in that time and dropped out of school.
Roger&Me
Bluelighter
my god, man.... this chick is 12 years old and she can shred like crazy. she takes a long solo in the middle of the song and it almost sounds like jimmy herring circa '99 Jazz is Dead
Thanatos
Bluelighter
That's a pretty kicking song my friend. Some of her chords are a little dissonant. It she has lead like no ones business.
Roger&Me
Bluelighter
iknorite, its not even just good noodling either, that solo had a very coherent structure and actually went places. if she keeps it up she's gonna be a god tier musician by the time she's 25-30.
more crazy shredding
more crazy shredding
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