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🌟🌟 Social 🌟🌟 PD Social Thread 2022-2025 v. Year of the Phenethylamine

Does anyone know if βk-MDA ever made the rounds as an RC? Would it be similar to Methylone in action, the Wikipedia article says that it's an empathogenic drug. It doesn't seem to be scheduled anywhere but in the UK. Would this work as recreational drug?
Cathinones with a primary amine are rather unstable which might be a reason why it never made the rounds. I mean, bk-2C-B is also a thing but I guess it’s a pain in the ass to synthesize.
 
Anyone else in here never tried nitrous?

I’ve been watching so many podcasts and interviews, many of them about DMT, that I’ve got a real itch to revisit the molecule. I’ve only ever smoked it in my bong, sandwiched between weed...and im currently on weed “detox” so that I’ll be able to pass a piss test for a new job. Day 3 and it’s probably the only 3 days of the entire last year that I haven’t smoked (or maybe almost the last 3 years...when I had to quit for the job i have now)

Also thought about some LSD today. There is a hot air balloon festival going on and last year i dropped L. Could try to make a tradition out of it haha, but not really the best time to trip when I’m dealing with slight nausea and difficulty sleeping.

Pretty proud of myself for going two straight days with zero drugs of any kind. Didn’t even drink coffee :)
“Relapsed” tonight with a single beer. Gonna keep trying this sober life for a little bit. And the job thing came at a perfect time. We are going to disney world in about two weeks, so I can deal with the mild “withdrawal”’symptoms now instead of on vacation.
If you check a bag, just stick your weed/drugs in the checked bag and be sure there are absolutely zero batteries or electronic devices in this checked bag. I do it all the time, fly domestically with zero problems. Carry-on is a little more dangerous, but also possible with a little decoy creativity. And International flight is all bets off.

Regardless, you should refuse to take any drug tests whatsoever (unless court ordered) in protest of the fact that it's a violation of your fourth amendment right to a protection against unreasonable search and seizure, not to mention rude and invasive.

It's such a crazy thing for a place of employment to ask of their potential employees. Why are they dictating what you do in your spare time when you're not at work? Fuck working for a company with shitty policies like that. At the very least, I hope the pay is absolutely stellar and completely worth this undignified bullshit.
 
Anybody here have experience with β-Hydroxy-2C-B?

What do you think would be a dose for a +++, I'm looking to be taking this one withy girlfriend in the future and I would wanna utilize my sample to the best of my ability. Got 150mgs and I'm looking to get s few trips out of it, I've taken it in the past but I had a huge tolerance to psychedelics at the time. Think I remember taking 40 or 50mgs and it revealed it's character but I had dosed some Psilacetin and DMT earlier the same day...
 
So europe has access to the lsd analogues and the us has access to the THC isomers.
The U.S. has access to LSD analogues as well. I've had 1p-LSD, 1cP-LSD, ALD-52, AL-LAD, ETH-LAD, PRO-LAD, and might acquire some 1B-LSD and/or 1V-LSD soon just for the fuck of it.

I believe I recall reading that virtually every drug in PIHKAL and TIHKAL is outlawed in the UK?
 
Anybody here have experience with β-Hydroxy-2C-B?

What do you think would be a dose for a +++, I'm looking to be taking this one withy girlfriend in the future and I would wanna utilize my sample to the best of my ability. Got 150mgs and I'm looking to get s few trips out of it, I've taken it in the past but I had a huge tolerance to psychedelics at the time. Think I remember taking 40 or 50mgs and it revealed it's character but I had dosed some Psilacetin and DMT earlier the same day...
Yessir, so I've had:
  • 2C-B
  • 2C-B-FLY
  • β-ketone-2C-B
  • β-hydroxy-2C-B
all within near proximity to one another. These were my thoughts on it before: https://bluelight.org/xf/threads/are-2c-b-fly-and-%CE%B2k-%CE%B2oh-2c-b-worth-trying.907080/#post-15275059

I called it BOHB (pronounced "boab") at the time I was researching it. I think I took it in doses of ~60 mg and that was fairly impressive for what the compound had to offer, but there are better compounds in that bromine-related family. Regardless, if you wanted to make 3 doses, you'd need to split then into 50 mg each, obviously.
 
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How’d you like that one, especially compared to AL-LAD and ETH-LAD?
PRO-LAD is good. It comes on a little bit more slowly but it also tapers down a bit more rapidly. The duration isn't as long. The headspace is friendly, and it's very much like LSD.
AL-LAD is probably my favorite of these three. Very visual, very friendly, tends to be more "outrospective" than introspective which I usually prefer (though not always).
ETH-LAD comes w/too much body load for yours truly, though it also affords some lovely moments. Pairs better with something to take the edge off like MDMA, MDA, or pre-gaming with a benzo or something like this.
 
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Every drug u can think of (execpt nitrous/poppers) is outlawed in UK, Blanket Ban and all that
Well, at least the UK doesn't dish out fucked up drug law statutes like the US does. It's no wonder the US incarcerates both the most overall number of people, and the most people per capita with over 2.2 million inmates. Second place in incarceration is India with 1.9 million people locked up, but they have a population of ~1.4 billion compared to the States' 330 million. That's over four times as many people and yet they still lock up fewer people than the US.

It would be worse in the US but 1985's Analogue Act was some poorly written legislation.
 
I'm down to only a few teaspoons of Red Vein Bali Kratom a day. No benzos, booze or anything else mind-altering. What I feel the most is a raging return of my libido; I'm a dude in my young 50's surrounded by a shoreline community of beautiful young women in their bikinis.

At 15, I was fueled by youth, testosterone and caffeine... but had no clue how to look or act in order to attract a member of the opposite sex.

At 51, I'm very secure with who I am, but a recovering drug addict living with my mother and being unemployed for the past 7 years does not look really good on paper.

One of these days, I'll make my credentials match up with the man that I have become.
Word to the wise: sometimes you gotta fake it 'til you make it. My unsolicited proverbial two cents for you ☞ Firstly, drop that "recovering drug addict" talk. Give yourself permission—go on and say it outloud—and allow yourself to let go of that period in your life. I don't buy for a second that "addiction is a disease". The word means "spoken for" that's why "diction" is in its root. Once you let go of that, allow yourself to heal and fill in the time and space with healthy activities. There is no addiction, only dependence and tolerance. When you see tolerance growing, automatically this means dependence is developing as well. Avoid tolerance and you avoid dependence. I realize this is easier for some than for others, so take my advice here with a grain of proverbial NaCl and do what's best for your health above all else.

As to the unemployment for the past seven years, to hell with that shit. Get creative. I was incarcerated for years many moons ago. I patched up the massive gap on my resume by claiming I was freelancing and also getting creative with my translating the compound jobs I did. For instance for a number of years I taught GED classes in the joint. On my resume, this became "teaching remedial academics to the underprivileged in GED-focused state program" and I mentioned how my class "lead to a 225% increase in GED pass rates" and shit like that. Just make sure you do your research so you can talk the talk and see what you can't slick-talk your way into. You'd be surprised what can happen if you're willing to bend a few truths here and there.

Otherwise, how else does one pull ahead in the classic Catch 22 gotcha of: I have to have experience to get the job, but I have to get the job to build experience? It's nearly impossible if you don't find an attack vector like this. The world is but a stage and all that…

The only credential you need is confidence in yourself. The only approval you need is from the man in the mirror.
 
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If you check a bag, just stick your weed/drugs in the checked bag and be sure there are absolutely zero batteries or electronic devices in this checked bag. I do it all the time, fly domestically with zero problems. Carry-on is a little more dangerous, but also possible with a little decoy creativity. And International flight is all bets off.

Regardless, you should refuse to take any drug tests whatsoever (unless court ordered) in protest of the fact that it's a violation of your fourth amendment right to a protection against unreasonable search and seizure, not to mention rude and invasive.

It's such a crazy thing for a place of employment to ask of their potential employees. Why are they dictating what you do in your spare time when you're not at work? Fuck working for a company with shitty policies like that. At the very least, I hope the pay is absolutely stellar and completely worth this undignified bullshit.
I appreciate the advice, but I'm really not looking to take any with me to Disney. It's not worth even a slight risk of getting busted in front of my in laws and children and ruining the trip.

I had been thinking about taking a break from smoking, so this job interview is the motivation I needed to actually do it. I don't like feeling/being dependent on something, and it makes me feel "weak" to not do anything about it.

And while I completely agree with your opinion on the invasiveness of drug screens, it's unfortunately something I can't avoid in my industry. I'm pretty sure every single pharma company does pre-employment drug screens. I make 6 figures at the moment (just barely) and I wouldn't accept this new job without a 25-33% raise. The stability it can bring to my family is totally worth a little tolerance break.

I think I'm gonna aim for 60 days, regardless of if I get a 2nd/3rd interview. Then I'll treat myself to like half a puff from the vape pen and probably get so high that I freak out. In the past, even taking one or two days off smoking reduces my tolerance in a huge way. For me, it seems that weed is best enjoyed with some level of tolerance though, otherwise I just get too high and anxious. And just because it's more fun to get high than to not, I seem unable to be an occasional smoker. It usually is an everyday habit, unless I'm on a break.

It's way easier to sneak LSD anyways :)
 
I appreciate the advice, but I'm really not looking to take any with me to Disney. It's not worth even a slight risk of getting busted in front of my in laws and children and ruining the trip.
Like hell. It's definitely worth it. In the past, I've bought cigarettes, emptied them out, and packed them with weed, then packed loose tobacco in at the end as a decoy. This is overkill. I realized next that all that needs to be done is: disguise the cannabis as legal Delta-8 bud. I make pre-rolled Bluntville Cigarello blunts and typically pack about a quarter ounce of bud, again in containers marked "Delta-8". Who's really gonna question that? If you're really sweating it like that, pack less than 20 g so it stays in the misdemeanor level for Florida.

Or just bring the vape pen. When you go to take a urine screening, tape a condom filled with fresh warn urine to the inside of your leg (to keep it warm) and use this to fill the test cup at the facility. It's not like prison system drug tests or probation drug tests where they actually watch the urine leaving your genitals. They give you privacy, so it's easy to beat. Fuck the system; outsmart these invasive assholes.

Get one of the those “SMTWTFS” pill holder things for the days of the week, and put whatever pills you might want in that thing. Yes, acid is extremely easy to bring with you.

I dissolve ketamine into a nasal spray solution "for my allergies / sinuses". That goes in my carry-on and I like to get ripped on ketamine sometimes when I'm flying. It's fun.

I've taken shards of methamphetamine and whittled them down to the size of cough drops and then unwrapped some actual cough drops and used the wrappers to wrap up those aforementioned shards. They look just like cough drops.

I don't like feeling/being dependent on something, and it makes me feel "weak" to not do anything about it.
It's such a low-level, non-issue dependency – much like many people's caffeine dependency – that I refuse to see that as troublesome. For me, cannabis is a mood stabilizer and a mild anxiolytic that helps me not lose my temper, patience, or appetite. Cannabis has always been a wonderful friend to me, and though I've had to stop smoking for spells in my life, it's something that enhances my world, something I enjoy, and something I always come back to eventually.

So you're a PharmD.? It's so much school just to make ~$140K/yr. working at a CVS or a Walgreens and still having to work a weekend day while dealing with non-mask-wearing COVID-19/QAnon conspiracy theorists with the intelligence of a jar of mayonnaise… tough… and no one seems to realize or respect the fact that PharmD.'s are doctors… but then a J.D. degree is technically a juris doctorate and lawyers are also doctors from that perspective.
 
They won’t even let you smoke/vape in Disneyworld though. No point in bringing smokables. I easily smuggled a tab of LSD to Florida in my luggage though, that was interesting to do at Epcot.
 
The first edition of the Nitrous Big and Dandy isn't working for me....when I goto the first page of the second edition and click on the link to go-to the previous thread it says an error.

Is it something on my end or maybe did it not get bumped during the prune years ago. Really disappointed right now cuz I'm semi-obsessed with reading about Nitrous these days. Honestly I'm counting down the days until me and my girl rent a hotel room Saturday. We are gonna have 150 chargers with us and alternate between balloons and lovemaking, it's gonna be great. Then I'm gonna go on a break for a 2-3 weeks and supplement plenty of Sublingual b12 Methylcobalamin 5000mcg, one in the morning and one at night. So excited to try these new chargers, I have a feeling they are gonna be way better than the last ones.
 
Like hell. It's definitely worth it. In the past, I've bought cigarettes, emptied them out, and packed them with weed, then packed loose tobacco in at the end as a decoy. This is overkill. I realized next that all that needs to be done is: disguise the cannabis as legal Delta-8 bud. I make pre-rolled Bluntville Cigarello blunts and typically pack about a quarter ounce of bud, again in containers marked "Delta-8". Who's really gonna question that? If you're really sweating it like that, pack less than 20 g so it stays in the misdemeanor level for Florida.

Or just bring the vape pen. When you go to take a urine screening, tape a condom filled with fresh warn urine to the inside of your leg (to keep it warm) and use this to fill the test cup at the facility. It's not like prison system drug tests or probation drug tests where they actually watch the urine leaving your genitals. They give you privacy, so it's easy to beat. Fuck the system; outsmart these invasive assholes.

Get one of the those “SMTWTFS” pill holder things for the days of the week, and put whatever pills you might want in that thing. Yes, acid is extremely easy to bring with you.

I dissolve ketamine into a nasal spray solution "for my allergies / sinuses". That goes in my carry-on and I like to get ripped on ketamine sometimes when I'm flying. It's fun.

I've taken shards of methamphetamine and whittled them down to the size of cough drops and then unwrapped some actual cough drops and used the wrappers to wrap up those aforementioned shards. They look just like cough drops.


It's such a low-level, non-issue dependency – much like many people's caffeine dependency – that I refuse to see that as troublesome. For me, cannabis is a mood stabilizer and a mild anxiolytic that helps me not lose my temper, patience, or appetite. Cannabis has always been a wonderful friend to me, and though I've had to stop smoking for spells in my life, it's something that enhances my world, something I enjoy, and something I always come back to eventually.

So you're a PharmD.? It's so much school just to make ~$140K/yr. working at a CVS or a Walgreens and still having to work a weekend day while dealing with non-mask-wearing COVID-19/QAnon conspiracy theorists with the intelligence of a jar of mayonnaise… tough… and no one seems to realize or respect the fact that PharmD.'s are doctors… but then a J.D. degree is technically a juris doctorate and lawyers are also doctors from that perspective.
Not so sure why you're so set on me not taking a break from weed. It'll be ok dude :)
I honestly find it easier to just quit for awhile than to tape someone else urine to my leg in a condom and worry about spilling it or some shit. What's "worth it" to you and worth it to me are different things.
My degree is a PhD in biochem, not a pharmD, but yeah a lot of school, and I don't even make 140k (yet)
Weed does all those things for me to, but because I'm mildly addicted to it. If I had never started smoking, I doubt I would "need" it to prevent losing my temper or appetite.


On a different topic, I just looked up the Shulgin Index (book after phikal and TiHKAL). The damn thing is $1000 on Amazon! Anyone ever lay eyes on it? Even a digital version?
Gonna do a real dig later to try and find some more of shulgins work to read. I've been flipping through PiHKAL and TiHKAL a lot lately. So many compounds I have never read about or at least not retained the info. I tended to focus on the ones that were available (at least to you guys)...
 
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