☮ Social ☮ PD Social Talk Thread: Firly Swolks Discussing Mitillating Tatters Fithout Wilters

[Cream Gravy?]

Yeah, I got away with the whole 'incense' trick for a few weeks at the beginning, but I was a stupid teenager and it didn't last long. Permanently changed the way my parents treat me. They don't think I toke these days so they're a little nicer, but the whole 'you're a deadbeat' vibe from them is still strong even to this day, 6 years later.

 

[swilow]

We sound like veterans swapping war stories.

 

[Xorkoth]

Yes, that's a very good way of putting it. We used to smoke in the forest at the "bucket spot" where we stored our bucket (gravity bong). We'd just pull out the bucket and 'stitch' ourselves until we were in a very psychedelic head space. It certainly was like a second child hood, just with a whole new perspective... a perspective alien even to most adults. Everybody should experience that; I'll never forget the way the forest felt/looked back then in near pitch black and after your fifth bucket of powerful tac (i.e soapbar).

A whole near world, and that was just the beginning. Been obsessed with the psyche ever since.

Yeah this basically mirrors my experience. Every single thing took on deep significance, it was like playing pretend as a young kid, except way more psychedelic, with deep conversations. That period of time also got me obsessed with the psyche/altered states. It was paradise... my last year of high school, what a great one.

My mom has the most sensitive nose around, I swear she was a hound in a past life. I was never able to hide my habit, it really sucked. Parents treat you like scum when they know you're a stoner, at least my super conservative Catholic one's did.

When my parents caught me I assumed it would ber the end of my life as I knew it... instead they sat me down and told me they used to do it college too, but that it's a thing for college and not before or after, and that mainly they were worried about me getting in trouble and screwing up my future. I was shocked. They told me I couldn't sleep over at friends' houses for a month, but I could still hang out with friends after school. I was like, uh... okay! And proceeded to get high at my friend's house whose parents worked til 5:30, which we were already doing every day.

I remember my first ""philosopical"", deeply introspecive highs started when I was twenty, more or less. That's why I think I wouldnt have gotten much out of psychedelics if Ive tried then before that. Maybe just a creepy confusing time. I'm sure I wouldnt really understand the experience if I was still a highschooler.

When I started smoking, I immediately felt like I was understanding new things, even the first time I successfully got high. I started keeping a journal of thoughts that I called "The Bible" (I was also moving vehemently against Christianity at the time). I found it recently, it covers basically my whole senior year of high school, my age 17 year, and took up the whole notebook... looking back from the beginning, the "theories" were silly Half Baked-style nonsense, the first one was, dude, I just realized the universe can be expressed as the graph y = x^2 + 2, and I drew some pictures of it and shit... by halfway through there were some interesting and coherent ideas, and by the end it was actually pretty insightful sometimes. I really had some strongly psychedelic experiences on weed when I started, that first year. Not the same sort of thing as the next year when I did mushrooms and woke up to realize that I was the eyes of the world , but it certainly drastically altered my thinking and helped me to move towards a more thoughtful and open-minded place. Of course, I was 17, not 13/14/15/16. Just a year away from college. I wouldn't change anything really, and I was ready for psychedelics at 18 also (going away to college and being in that mind frame was probably really important for that as much as the age).

 

[Tranced]

Other than that, giggles and acting silly haha.

The 'laughies' as we called them were ridiculous. Never laughed so much before or since. People used to stand and watch me order a takeaway just so they could witness my inevitable buckling up with laughter as I tried to order curry and chips at the counter.

I still remember the most I've ever laughed in my life over in the forest after a night of buckets. Some dog walkers had been seeking out and kicking over the bucket during the day, which meant that we had to walk about a mile to buy a bottle of water. So as we were about to leave I pulled out a a piece of paper I'd printed out and without saying anything to my mate started sellotaping it to the tree above the bucket. My mate was like "what the fuck is that?" and walked over and pulled it off the tree to read it, and I just remember that it opened with

"ATTENTION RAMBLERS - it has came to our attention that somebody has been kicking the bong", then went on to request in a long, daft, drawn out way to please refrain from kicking it over so that we could continue to smoke our buckets.

I remember the laughter from my mate setting me off, and spending a good fifteen minutes just actually lying on the floor holding our stomachs with pain from the intense laughter, then he'd just start to read it out again and never get to the end. Every time he said "attention ramblers" it would just set us off more and more until in the end I had to somehow notify my mate that I was genuinely becoming scared for my ability to breathe and wondering if death by laughter was possibly a thing.

Good times.

 

[Just A Guy]

Didn't start smoking weed in earnest til after my army days and moving to the midwest. But since I was 21 been smoking weed and only stopped for about first 5 years of being a dad.

But my favorite smoking buddy and I just started hanging out again, so it's going to be a fun summer. Think we'll get back into weight-lifting too. I even just bought a new pipe today. I like it a lot, even though it's metal. But it's the right length, and I've been using this tiny water bong for so long that recently singed my gf's eyebrow a bit coz the bowl is so close.

 

[Xorkoth]

The uncontrollable giggles actually happened to me recently. I was over at Delsyd's place and his dog Ollie was there, I can't remember what we were on, some psych probably and definitely weed. His dog has this thing where he wants to cross arms with you while you're sitting down, but then he looks to the side like he's self-conscious and won't look you in the eye. So either me or our other friend was like, "Ollie, why won't you meet my gaze??", but somehow we all took it as "Ollie, why won't you meet my gays??". For whatever reason this was one of the funniest things of all time, none of us could stop laughing for a long time, and every time anyone said it it began all over again. To this day it causes laughter if someone brings it up.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

We sound like veterans swapping war stories.

Are we not?

But it's the right length, and I've been using this tiny water bong for so long that recently singed my gf's eyebrow a bit coz the bowl is so close.

That's the worst, I've had some mini bongs/pipes like that. It's even worse if you're a long haired hippy and your whole head could potentially go up 8)

 

[Tranced]

Yeah this basically mirrors my experience. Every single thing took on deep significance, it was like playing pretend as a young kid, except way more psychedelic, with deep conversations. That period of time also got me obsessed with the psyche/altered states. It was paradise... my last year of high school, what a great one.

Yeah one of my favourite things was that my perception of the world was completely altered in that state. The forest and the trees took on a totally different vibe depending on the "level" that I was at. The way I interpreted my environment in the woods both visually and with my mind was incredible.

We used to talk about some pretty deep stuff considering we hadn't been exposed to such things from other sources. I smoked salvia, without believing it would work (I'd never heard of it before that night), about 2-3 months into my smoking career... again, in the woods. That really helped to... accelerate things.

When I started smoking, I immediately felt like I was understanding new things, even the first time I successfully got high. I started keeping a journal of thoughts that I called "The Bible" (I was also moving vehemently against Christianity at the time). I found it recently, it covers basically my whole senior year of high school, my age 17 year, and took up the whole notebook... looking back from the beginning, the "theories" were silly Half Baked-style nonsense, the first one was, dude, I just realized the universe can be expressed as the graph y = x^2 + 2, and I drew some pictures of it and shit... by halfway through there were some interesting and coherent ideas, and by the end it was actually pretty insightful sometimes. I really had some strongly psychedelic experiences on weed when I started, that first year. Not the same sort of thing as the next year when I did mushrooms and woke up to realize that I was the eyes of the world , but it certainly drastically altered my thinking and helped me to move towards a more thoughtful and open-minded place. Of course, I was 17, not 13/14/15/16. Just a year away from college. I wouldn't change anything really, and I was ready for psychedelics at 18 also (going away to college and being in that mind frame was probably really important for that as much as the age).

Wow that's so fucking cool that you've got a log. I've got nothing but my memories. you should totally post some scans.

The uncontrollable giggles actually happened to me recently. I was over at Delsyd's place and his dog Ollie was there, I can't remember what we were on, some psych probably and definitely weed. His dog has this thing where he wants to cross arms with you while you're sitting down, but then he looks to the side like he's self-conscious and won't look you in the eye. So either me or our other friend was like, "Ollie, why won't you meet my gaze??", but somehow we all took it as "Ollie, why won't you meet my gays??". For whatever reason this was one of the funniest things of all time, none of us could stop laughing for a long time, and every time anyone said it it began all over again. To this day it causes laughter if someone brings it up.

Haha quality, I love this. One of those things that would have been funny as a school boy but still definitely is now.

 

[swilow]

. . . of drugs and satan.

Great combo.

 

[Tranced]

Great combo.

Sounds kind of like Of Mice and Men but more fucked up.

 

[Xorkoth]

Wow that's so fucking cool that you've got a log. I've got nothing but my memories. you should totally post some scans.

I actually photographed every single page for my friend who was the one of my friends who had the same sort of reaction to weed as me (and not just giggles). If I can find them I'll certainly post some favorites. Or else I gotta find the actual notebook again. I know it's in my house somewhere but probably packed in a box somewhere.

 

[swilow]

Sounds kind of like Of Mice and Men but more fucked up.

I think it could a song by an industrial black/thrash metal band..

 

[Img_9999]

The 'laughies' as we called them were ridiculous. Never laughed so much before or since. People used to stand and watch me order a takeaway just so they could witness my inevitable buckling up with laughter as I tried to order curry and chips at the counter.

I still remember the most I've ever laughed in my life over in the forest after a night of buckets. Some dog walkers had been seeking out and kicking over the bucket during the day, which meant that we had to walk about a mile to buy a bottle of water. So as we were about to leave I pulled out a a piece of paper I'd printed out and without saying anything to my mate started sellotaping it to the tree above the bucket. My mate was like "what the fuck is that?" and walked over and pulled it off the tree to read it, and I just remember that it opened with

"ATTENTION RAMBLERS - it has came to our attention that somebody has been kicking the bong", then went on to request in a long, daft, drawn out way to please refrain from kicking it over so that we could continue to smoke our buckets.

I remember the laughter from my mate setting me off, and spending a good fifteen minutes just actually lying on the floor holding our stomachs with pain from the intense laughter, then he'd just start to read it out again and never get to the end. Every time he said "attention ramblers" it would just set us off more and more until in the end I had to somehow notify my mate that I was genuinely becoming scared for my ability to breathe and wondering if death by laughter was possibly a thing.

Good times.

Haha, this made me remember the first time I got reaaaaally high, it was like my tenth or so time smoking. It was really crazy, I think to this day I've only been that high a few times. I was with a couple of friends and we were experiencing insane time dilation, looking back all the experience was somewhat dissociating, my imagination was amplified to the point were sometimes I would loose for minute all sense of the place we were at. At one point one of my friends started recording with a camera and suddenly he went like: "Guess how much time has passed since I started recording?". And I told him, "I dunno, like ten minutes or something" but he went "Naah man, it's been just 1.30 minutes !!!" Then I went into an uncontrollable laughter: " WTF AHAHAH, A MINUTE AND A HALF ??!?! REALLY ??! HOW COULD THAT BE ?!?!" and every ten seconds he went like : "Now, just ten seconds have passed since I told you the time last time" "Now, only 15 seconds " And everytime I felt like it was a much longer time so that would crack me up even more to the point that I remember having the same concern as you about dying from laughter, lol. I couldn't breathe and my stomach was hurting so much I started getting anxious and paranoid and exasperated but at the same time couldn't stop laughing. I don't think I've laughed that much ever again haha.

We sound like veterans swapping war stories.

Hahaha, drug veterans. Some of you guys here really are, though. Among my friends everyone thinks I'm some kind of drug sage, accentuated by my science degree that allows me to "understand the chemistry", but when I look at most of BLighters I realize I'm a total noob, lol.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

^I too am the 'drug sage' in my circle, but I got a degree in history and don't know squat about chemistry. And I haven't even tripped as much as some of them, I'm just the one taking the oddball internet drugs

 

[Xorkoth]

I remember the first time I got high successfully, it was at my friend's party he was having, his parents were out of town. I smoked a bowl of some really good weed with some people in his garage, and when I got back in, I remember the body buzz was SO INTENSE. I had frame vision, every half second or so there was a frame, and behind the frame was this deep blackness. I was laughing at everything, I remember standing in a corner and laughing my ass off for who knows why, some kids at my high school were looking at me like, what's wrong with that guy? After a while my other friend who was also really high told me we could play video games in the basement. I remember we turned on Soulcalibur on his Sega Dreamcast. In my mind we were engaged in epic battles for hours, but after a while I looked up and noticed his character was hitting my unmoving character repeatedly, and the word "high!" was flashing repeatedly on the screen. We both had thought we were battling, but in fact he had entered practice mode, I wasn't even playing, and he had just been hitting me with high punches for the whole time. It was like the game was telling us how "high" we were. We both laughed for so long, and then passed out on the couches.

 

[Xorkoth]

Also, the Malazan Book of the Fallen keeps being fucking awesome. So many incredible moments of language and storytelling. Book 7... good recommendation swilow. I can't even go to bed cuz of this shit.

 

[swilow]

^You've read past me, I am up to book 6. No spoilers!

I'm everpleased that you have enjoyed them. Incomparable. They, and Game of Thrones, have made most fantasy unreadable and totally pretentious now.

My first time getting stoned was incredible. It seemed to kick in for my friends quicker than I so I chucked a bud in the bong and smoked it, unknowingly. I got so incredibly high, I only recall laughing and laughing and looking up at the black sky utterly tripping. I felt like I was watching the world through a camera. I become crippled with the idea of how small an ants penis would be, I was laughing and hanging on to this tree like I was about to take flight. Like you guys, my early smokig years were really intense and meaningful, totally formative in how I would come to asses reality. Maybe gateway in some respects though...

 

[Xorkoth]

I mean sure, it was the first drug I tried, the first drug most people try (or alcohol, etc). In my opinion, any drugs is a gateway drug for people who like drugs. They try one, they're like, damn I like this, maybe I should try other ones. Also, weed is psychedelic-esque especially at first, so for people inclined to experiment with things that really bend your perception, it's going to pique your interest.

Game of Thrones is really good too. I think I like Malazan more though. Last night I came home late after doing a bunch of adderall (best high on amps I've had in forever) and alcohol and stayed up and read for like 3 more hours.

 

[swilow]

I used to get so much more tripped out than my smoking buddies. Another world style tripping. I still find marijuana pretty psychedelic.

I'm trying to read Stormlight series. Am enjoying it, its original but its taken me a month to read a third of book one. Too distracted by other books.

 

[Bagseed]

I love psychedelic weed highs but panic attacks prevent me from doing that too often so I usually just smoje enough to get buzzed.. ;/