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PCP in Canada. Let me tell you if you are interested!

I recently did pcp for the first time in a few years. Still didn't hurt myself or anyone else. About 4 or 5 of my friends did it with me a few times over the course of 2 weeks or so (for the record, I did NOT provide it to them). We screwed around drinking beer, B-B-Q-ing, and splashing around in the kiddie pool I bought for my yard. We made jokes that probably weren't funny, but laughed at them anyways. Little to no cannibalism occured. No seriously, we didn't eat eachother. I did convince one of my friends to eat a bug, but this was likely the beer influence more than anything. He saw a bug running across my kitchen floor and stepped on it. I said "why'd you do that? Now you gotta eat it!"
So he did. Good work Bob. (We go to college!)

Here is a picture (pending approval at the time I type this) of a decent beginner's dose of PCP before it was cut 7:1; fructose to pcp. It weighs approximately 0.05 grams.

http://www.bluelight.ru/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=48041&cat=503

After it was cut it looked like powdered sugar with a slight green tint. Perfect for insufflation, and kind of delicious to be honest.

I've still never smoked it. Maybe this is what causes people to go bananas like in the stories you read about? I'm still betting on it being a case of unstable people taking WAY too much.

Anyways... there you go.
 
You cannot smoke formaldehyde. OMG.

It's physically impossible. Formaldehyde is a volatile organic compound - it is a liquid that evaporates into its gaseous state at room temperature. Like gasoline.

If you dipped a cigarette in formaldehyde, and let it dry out, all the formaldehyde would be gone and you'd have a regular cigarette again. Except all kinds of solubles would have moved from the tobacco to the paper.

If you dipped a cigarette in formaldehyde, I don't think you could light it. The vapors rising from it would probably catch on fire and it would burn more like a candle wick or a lantern, not a cigarette. Or it might burst into a small fireball.

Nobody has ever smoked formaldehyde due to confusion resulting from misinformation. The confusion comes from the fact that 'embalming fluid' was as popular a slang term for PCP as 'angel dust' back in the 70s, and in many circles it's still the slang term for PCP.

The slang term probably originated because of the fact that the PCP experience can be so much like the near death experience, or a person on a high dose of PCP can look and act like a corpse, etc.
 
Montreal must have a great drug scene. Some of my friends from Montreal seem to have had ready access to PCP, DMT, and mescaline for years... like they're street drugs there.
 
Coolio said:
You cannot smoke formaldehyde. OMG.

It's physically impossible. Formaldehyde is a volatile organic compound - it is a liquid that evaporates into its gaseous state at room temperature. Like gasoline.

If you dipped a cigarette in formaldehyde, and let it dry out, all the formaldehyde would be gone and you'd have a regular cigarette again. Except all kinds of solubles would have moved from the tobacco to the paper.

If you dipped a cigarette in formaldehyde, I don't think you could light it. The vapors rising from it would probably catch on fire and it would burn more like a candle wick or a lantern, not a cigarette. Or it might burst into a small fireball.

Nobody has ever smoked formaldehyde due to confusion resulting from misinformation. The confusion comes from the fact that 'embalming fluid' was as popular a slang term for PCP as 'angel dust' back in the 70s, and in many circles it's still the slang term for PCP.

The slang term probably originated because of the fact that the PCP experience can be so much like the near death experience, or a person on a high dose of PCP can look and act like a corpse, etc.
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Yeah I can't recall where I heard the formaldehyde stuff so really I know nothing about it. I can tell you that PCP has never been a near death experience for me, though at higher doses it does kind of give people a blank stare.
 
compare to katamine?

alain4911 said:
I've only done Ketamine twice, and in fairly low doses, but I would say that Ketamine feels a lot like low doses of PCP. My little experience with K would suggest that it makes you feel nicer than PCP, but isn't nearly as intersting. Definitely a good comparison point. They are similar.
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how exactly didja feel during that month after a summer bender? you lose short term memory, experience dismotiation/depression, couldn't crank numbers or suffered from "tip of the tongue"?

on really, really high doses, do you blackout? or do you become paralyzed and immobile first?
 
Have any of you ever heard it called "K J"?
I've personally never done it, because I'm not a fan of anything that makes me hallucinate what so ever, but it did sound rather interesting to me.

My buddy smokes "K J" about twice a month and always tells me that his favorite part is feeling like he is really strong and also the "gnarly tracers everything has.... DOOOOOOD!" :)

Alot of people in my town are ignorant about this stuff though, which scares the shit out of me. I got into an argument with my friend's GF because she thought KJ wasn't PCP. Here it's sold as a joint full of pot dipped in PCP. Most people in town here think it's pot mixed with LSD (if you can believe that crock of shit)...
 
alain, I think you and your circles stick to low doses. A lot of crackheads and ghetto dwellers in the USA who smoke PCP will smoke it until they vomit, pass out, hallucinate for days at a time, etc.

Have you ever tried dextromethorphan? I feel like your PCP use is like 2nd plateau DXM use... it's psychedelic, dissociative, euphoric.

There are people out there that eat 2000mg of DXM at once though, and it's often an alien abduction, entity contact, or near-death experience just like high doses of PCP or ketamine.
 
Coolio said:
alain, I think you and your circles stick to low doses. A lot of crackheads and ghetto dwellers in the USA who smoke PCP will smoke it until they vomit, pass out, hallucinate for days at a time, etc.

Have you ever tried dextromethorphan? I feel like your PCP use is like 2nd plateau DXM use... it's psychedelic, dissociative, euphoric.

There are people out there that eat 2000mg of DXM at once though, and it's often an alien abduction, entity contact, or near-death experience just like high doses of PCP or ketamine.
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I can't imagine even having the urge to do enough pcp to do the stuff you mention. I would compare pcp to LSD in this regard. You might want to drop acid, but it seems strange to me to want to drop 100 hits of acid. It's not the kind of thing that you take a dose of, and then crave more and have an urge to keep going and going. I just don't relate to this is all I mean.
However...
In the picture I posted you're looking at some green goop. This stuff isn't sold on the street here usually. You have to know somebody or be "connected" (for lack of a less cheesy word) to get it like this. Dealers don't wanna go handing it off to just anyone in this form because if you don't know what you're doing with it, it could deffo be dangerous. That's why it's cut with dextrose etc. before it's sold to people ... to weaken it and make it easier to take a reasonable dose. So I suppose if some street kids ran into some green pcp (or pure liquid as the case may be) then yeah, people could really be losing their shit and way over doing it. But once you did that once, I'm betting you'd be scared off of it for good (just like you would if you accidentily took 100 hits of acid.)
I guess I'd say: if you run into pcp, avoid smoking it, and take a TINY bit at first to get a feel for how strong the stuff you've got actually is. I know where I get mine, and what to expect; but a drug that seems to be so rare in so many places should be treated with respect and caution. Know your dealer!
 
lazydullard said:
how exactly didja feel during that month after a summer bender? you lose short term memory, experience dismotiation/depression, couldn't crank numbers or suffered from "tip of the tongue"?

on really, really high doses, do you blackout? or do you become paralyzed and immobile first?
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A really high dose of pure PCP to me is about .3-.4 g, which would be sold on the street here as 5-7 "caps". (1 cap equals .5 grams of cut pcp.) This makes it very difficult to walk or speak, but you can do it. Deffo not "paralyzed". I wouldn't say it causes a complete "blackout" either but your memory would for sure be affected, and probably distorted all to shit. (rememebring stuff that didn't happen... and forgetting stuff that did.) Have people who care about you nearby if you feel the need to do this, and actually know what you're doing with the stuff first. If you've never done PCP, try a tiny bit at first and work your way up as you wish. Just be smart. Again i'll draw the comparison to LSD: don't drop 20 hits of acid to try it out, and maybe don't do that at all. Think of a cap of PCP as a hit of acid, but remember that you can overdose on PCP. Take it easy. If only I could be in the room with all you people if you decided to try it. From here this is the best guidance I can give. It was easy for me because when I tried it I bought a cap for $10, took it, and had fun. It was being sold by the dose, and people had a reasonable idea of what a dose should be.

The month after the bender:
Crank numbers, tip of the tongue, short term memory... check, check, check.
I don't recall being depressed. I don't know what "dismotiation" is.
 
Natural said:
Have any of you ever heard it called "K J"?
I've personally never done it, because I'm not a fan of anything that makes me hallucinate what so ever, but it did sound rather interesting to me.

My buddy smokes "K J" about twice a month and always tells me that his favorite part is feeling like he is really strong and also the "gnarly tracers everything has.... DOOOOOOD!" :)

Alot of people in my town are ignorant about this stuff though, which scares the shit out of me. I got into an argument with my friend's GF because she thought KJ wasn't PCP. Here it's sold as a joint full of pot dipped in PCP. Most people in town here think it's pot mixed with LSD (if you can believe that crock of shit)...
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Never heard of KJ. Never gotten "gnarly tracers" from pcp either. Hallucinations happen at higher doses, and are more tangible; like a person in the room that you can speak to and get responses from even. You realise the person isn't real, but why not see what they have to say? Or maybe your livingroom is the size of a football stadium. That sort of thing.

My advice is to not smoke PCP and stick to smaller doses until you are comfortable with. (sorry if I sound like a broken record as I respond to each individual post.)

Also, I should point out that I don't "reccomend" doing any drugs at all ever. You do what you need to do, and I'll tell you what I've done.
 
I might add here: the info in this thread relates only to the stuff found in Montreal, that looks like the stuff in the picture I linked to above. I'm starting to think that there is some MUCH stronger, and much more scary PCP available other places in the world. Be careful people.
 
Well, alain, if you go by erowid's PCP vault, a strong dose of PCP is 10mg. That means in a gram of uncut PCP, you should have 100-300 doses.
 
lol, i wrote dismotiation? i meant dismotivation. but that generally goes hand in hand with depression. the list of symptoms i gave you were drawn from my dxm experiences. i wanted to see how they compared.

thanks for the info.
 
I suffered from 'tip of the tongue' a lot during my DXM years. Really really frustrating when you realize it's some sort of drug-induced brain damage.
 
Coolio said:
Well, alain, if you go by erowid's PCP vault, a strong dose of PCP is 10mg. That means in a gram of uncut PCP, you should have 100-300 doses.
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Well I don't go by that. It does not apply to the substance I'm talking about. I do stress that the info I'm providing applies only to what goes on near where I live.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phencyclidine

That link suggests that potency can be fairly wide ranging due to makeshift labs. This is likely the difference. If very well produced and refined PCP has a strong dose of 10 mg, then people should be cutting this stuff like crazy to make sure they can take a reasonable amount. After all, who can measure out 10mg accurately? Or 5? Drugs like THAT should not be made available to people, and I don't see the point in taking them. Seems to me like you'd be fucked up by looking at it.

It's looking like I'm lucky that I live in a place where the dealers would rather not kill people, and actually sell drugs that can be used.

I hope I don't come across as ignorant, but the thread is called "PCP in Canada..."
 
alain, obviously you haven't met any research chemical users. I eyeball doses of psychedelics that last 24+ hours and are active at under 1mg. So do a lot of people in Canada...
 
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