P&S Alternative Theories thread v. orange tang

[What 23]

well I think, "enlightenment" is just a term coined by humans, similar to "god". very vague and without any real substance. I personally believe in the things I see and percieve, and I don't really have the need to believe in anything behind that (anymore). That's not to say, that I am entirely sure that there is nothing else, but if it is, it way too incomprehensible to really matter in my daily life. I have enough trouble coming to terms with actual reality, to be bothered thinking about stuff which I cannot even wrap my mind around.

In my opinion, thnking too much about "god", "the truth", "what is beyond" is just a way of escapism from the things we can actually feel.

I see myself as a spiritual person, but I don't have a need for "god", "enlightenment", and certainly not for esoteric crap.

Thinking about "God" is not escapist.

 

[Bagseed]

notice the "too" in my sentence

 

[Ninae]

It can though. No experience presents itself purely; each demands one attempt to answer the question, what does this mean? In this way, as one engages past experiences, critical thought has a place in spiritual matters.

ebola

It can and does most of the time, yes, but that is not comparable to losing yourself in spirit for a complete moment. This is indescribable and unique for all, but these experiences are quite rare. So reasoning critically over spiritual topics is a common norm, though it can't really be properly done, as it's so subjective among other things.

So not superior, or what I see as a pure spiritual experience without interference from the lower mind/emotions. That is not spirit, more like a means to an end, as "critical thinking" or "normal feelings" doesn't really come into it when you've reached that state (or belong to the emotional and mental bodies, not soul/spirit body). But that is quite hard to reach so it's what we've got to work with most of the time.

Though no doubt, thought and feeling seize to work, as we know it, in a moment of absolute enlightenment. There's simply no need for them. You have all that you could have and understand all you could feel the need to know in that moment. It's comparable to the ultimate high, in that sense, you need no more or else of anything. Common human needs disappear ("I don't need any love from an external source - I have all the love in the world inside of me").

 

[Ninae]

I personally believe in the things I see and percieve, and I don't really have the need to believe in anything behind that (anymore). That's not to say, that I am entirely sure that there is nothing else, but if it is, it way too incomprehensible to really matter in my daily life.

But what it if turned into something you could see and perceive in (daily life)?

Would you keep your stance or maybe verbalize your thoughts to try and make sense of it for yourself and others? There must be a reason people who can perceive things like this exist, right, just like there are people who have a natural penchant for needle point.

 

[ebola?]

Hi. I'm establishing this thread as a mega-merged thread for 'alternative theories' and debate over them.

ebola

 

[Ninae]

Wtf I thought this was the most hated thread ever made. And it wasn't even going to become that big. It was just supposed to be an aside.

 

[Ninae]

My token controversial thread

Can all of this be a coincidence? Never realised how much they looked like before.
(Hitler and Angela Merkel)



Read about this for years but it seems so far out there I haven't really paid any attention.

Still don't know what to think but would be interested in hearing others opinion's. Cheers (Unless this is illegal to post but it's all over the Net).

I'll add my own thoughts later.

 

[ebola?]

^^^^
above post merged from another thread
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Ninae:
the thread from which I pulled the above post is precisely the type of discussion we encourage in the alt. theories thread. Please try to post fitting material here in the future.

ebola

 

[sexNcandy]

You know, its not gonna work out if you keep banning all the good posters.

 

[sekio]

Maybe if they followed the rules instead of shitposting all over the board?

 

[ebola?]

You know, its not gonna work out if you keep banning all the good posters.

It's cool--we haven't done this in the past and don't plan to in the future.

ebola

 

[Ninae]

So according to the latest updates, Ashtar and his crew are already hovering above celebrating our imminent ascencion. When I hear words like that I immediately start to get suspicious, though, as similar type of vocabulary was used this time last year.

I don't think those residing in the higher dimensions are really able to estimate time in our world (as they live outside time). 5 months might be "imminent" to them, but to us just very soon. I have a feeling some interesting things will be happening in the next 3 months, though, but I don't think we'll get the whole alien display just yet.

Then there's also the concept of parallel timelines which are confusing. Apparantly we have jumped to another more positive timeline where we avoided World War 3 and are guaranteed to ascend to 5fth dimension. But it's all quite confusing to me so I can't really say any more than that.


P.S. By the way, thanks for getting banned without being given the chance to explain what I was really trying to get to, which was totally misunderstood. It might have been a bit badly worded but I was actually trying to say something constructive. But on this board you don't get second chances, and too many Mods who get off on this kind of thing, I guess.

 

[MyDoorsAreOpen]

By the way, thanks for getting banned without being given the chance to explain what I was really trying to get to, which was totally misunderstood. It might have been a bit badly worded but I was actually trying to say something constructive. But on this board you don't get second chances, and too many Mods who get off on this kind of thing, I guess.

Ninae, I recognize and understand that you feel snubbed by some folks on this forum. Being rejected hurts, and I don't wish it upon you or anyone. Please try to put yourself in my shoes, now, as I have done with you. It makes me feel annoyed when people bring their personal beef into public discussions in this forum, instead of having the tact to send someone a private message. It annoys me because it lowers the quality of discussion, and as a result the potential for real and quality human connection, and I work hard to cultivate an atmosphere in P&S where both of these things happen. I would be happy to continue this discussion via PM -- I'm actually not a bad listener, because as a guy with bad ADHD, I had to learn it the hard way.

 

[Ninae]

Here's an interesting page about the previous continents and civilisazations on Earth (there are many sources for it):

http://www.crystallotus.com/Pillars/001.htm

I find the relieff particularly interesting - it looks very meaningful - like some kind of priest-kings with high technology (I think that's how they used to be in the beginning).

This is also a good one, and is more reasonable than most crazy stuff like that:

http://www.salrachele.com/webarticles/thehistoryofearth.htm

 

[Ninae]

Clairvoyance

I'm not normally calirvoyant, but one time I had a very realistic vision of Brian Jones of the Rolling Stones getting killed, after watching some documentaries about it.

It was just like I was there and freaked me out so much I had to call my grandmother to talk about it, and she said, "Oh no, have you started seeing things like that now?" (She's almost 80 and has been through the block).

I asked her if she'd ever seen anything like that ever go through her mind, and she said, "Oh yes, that is perfectly possible". And I said it feels just like something you've made up by yourself, only at the same time there is no reason for you to think of something like that, and she said that is just what it feels like. Dunno, guess I have to trust my grandmother, she's got some years on me.

 

[rickolasnice]

I'm not normally calirvoyant, but one time I had a very realistic vision of Brian Jones of the Rolling Stones getting killed, after watching some documentaries about it.

I think that's called imagination, Ninae.

 

[rickolasnice]

I'm not normally calirvoyant, but one time I had a very realistic vision of Brian Jones of the Rolling Stones getting killed, after watching some documentaries about it.

I think that's called imagination, Ninae.

 

[HypGnosis]

Then there's also the concept of parallel timelines which are confusing. Apparantly we have jumped to another more positive timeline where we avoided World War 3 and are guaranteed to ascend to 5fth dimension. But it's all quite confusing to me so I can't really say any more than that

This is true, and you have me to thank for that ( I fulfilled The Prophecy....)

Once more round the Sun we go again then!

 

[HypGnosis]

^^ You don't have to literally thank me mind, I don't really go for all that soppy crap.

Also I couldn't have done it without the help of certain people. You know who you are. Thank you beautiful souls!

Peace and Love

 

[Ninae]

About that "witchy look" or "witchy eyes" I spoke about (I still believe in it). Bjork usually has a look of childlike innocence about her, but I would say she has it here:

I take it she's a "White witch/Wiccan" (only there the lines between white and black seem easy to cross) and seems incapable of deliberately hurting anyone (sweet spirit). Lots of Pentacle symbolism (out-stretched palms, etc.).

And the Rune for Gardnerian Witchcraft tatood on her arm ("a compass so she won't get lost"). Hmm. But seems like a typical pagan, nature-worshipper in her mannerisms (nothing necessarily wrong with that, depends from what angle you approach it).

It's an eerie, fascinating look, though (which I lack). I still get to hear I have "fascinating green eyes". But you can only imagine with everything that goes on in my mind. Kate Bush and Joan Collins are more ugly examples of it.

Right. Nature is many things.