I used to like going when the kids got out of school because there was always a lot more traffic, rarely problems. I used to have quite a few 24 hour spots and never had a problem. Lotsa places would switch over to more crack late at night but they always sold dope. I'm sure it hasn't changed.
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I used to like going when the kids got out of school because there was always a lot more traffic, rarely problems. I used to have quite a few 24 hour spots and never had a problem. Lotsa places would switch over to more crack late at night but they always sold dope. I'm sure it hasn't changed. 
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yeah I never tried to cop anywhere else so I really cant comment on it.
And I guess I was in a different situation because I always was driving down, not walking on the street. I mean sometimes you'd have to park up and walk a little because you know how fucking tight the streets are and theres like no parking but it wasnt usually more than a minute walk away.
But yeah I wasnt trying to say the cops are permissive of it, they just seem to pick and choose their spots and honestly it usually comes down to what race you areSorry BlueHues, but you're really misinformed. Heroin production has SKYROCKETED since 2001 (invasion of Afghanistan) and traffickers maintain vast stockpiles of opium (enough to feed the entire world's opiate consumption for 3 years without growing another single poppy) in order to keep prices up. However, with this large amount of opium/heroin production, inevitably prices have dropped and purity has risen. Heroin has become cheaper and more pure than ever before. Afghanistan had practically NO opium production just prior to the invasion, now it produces NINETY percent of the world's opium, along with all the other countries that were producing and feeding the world's heroin market during the years when the taliban had such a grip over Afghanistan that the opium growing was near non-existent. So there is a HUGE surplus of opium/heroin these days. Also, heroin usage in the US has increased dramatically in areas that had never had a heroin problem before. Suburbs around major cities are having an EPIDEMIC of heroin-related deaths, arrests, overdoses, and people going to treatment.
So, contrary to what you were saying, there is a HUGE amount of heroin like never before available and the usage is skyrocketing NATION-wide, specifically in places that are not "long established open air markets".
BlueHues
Bluelighter
If you knew Jack-shit at shit about heroin in the US, you'd know that almost all our heroins comes from south America via Mexico, but watch another documentary, by all means....Yeah, I'm misinformed! You try to hit with the most cookie-cutter, basic, "first
result on google" info on American heroin.....I suppose you're gonna tell me purity is up to between %70-95 and thats why people snort it now!! wow!
Keep believing everything you read you fuckin little arrogant, snotty little twat!!!
Alsmost NONE of the heroin in the US comes from Afganistan! Furthermore, Go to the EADD and ask them how availabity and purity has been for the last few years?! and they actually get their fucking dope from Afghanistan!!
also, look around on BL for threads about the quality of cocaine in the US! Pretty much everyone knows the purity and availability are down AND the reason for that is, IT"S HARDER TO GET COCAINE AND HEROIN INTO THE COUNTRY SINCE 911 AND THERE's NOT AS MUCH OF IT!!
whether or not poppie production has gone up 100000 fold in Afghanistan has absolutely nothing to fuckin to do with it!!!
It's really as if you just wanted to disagree with me to be a little piss-ant, but you really don't even have the fuckin basic facts straight!!
Where are you getting this shit from, that, "places that never had dope are getting it now!!"
Again, are you reading these shitty little stories about "The Heroin Epidemic in Alaska"?? Alaska, where people are paying 60 dollars for 1/10 of 1 gram?! Yeah availabilty is skyrocketed!!
Exactly where in the US do think that theres lots of heroin now that there wasn't before and where are you getting this from?! Experience?Last edited:
I do realize where the majority of Heroin imported to the US is from.. this only further proves how there is a bigger excess of heroin now than before. The countries that supply the US are still booming with heroin production as they have always been PLUS the huge amount that afghanistan produces only adds to the huge surplus of heroin in the global market. Its also a fact heroin related deaths, overdoses, arrests, treatment admissions, etc have skyrocketed in MANY suburban areas and rural counties ALL across the united states (From California -> Illinois -> Pennsylvania).. Its just a fact, man. I'm not just citing things from Drugs, Inc. as you're implying.
I don't know why you're bringing up cocaine as I didn't mention it, nor do I claim to know anything about it, which is why I didn't speak on it. However, this doesn't change the facts regarding heroin in the US.
It's also hilarious how angry you're getting about this. What, do you feel like you're the authority on drug trends to your friends, so when someone challenges you on what you're saying, you feel so threatened and emasculated that you have to resort to name-calling?
I don't know any other reason why someone would take a basic debate over drug usage in the United States so fuckin' personally.
BlueHues
Bluelighter
It's so fundamentally wrong, it offends my personal sense of truth, although I'll apologize from the name calling....It's just you're quoting the same falsehoods that have been being reported as "facts" for 10 plus years now!
They've been using the whole "the purity of heroin is going up!" thing since the mid nineties, and there was in fact a period in the nineties that the purity did increase dramatically and it was widely available and could be dangerous to users.....after that ended, which was pretty much right around 2000, it's been pretty consistently mediocre ever since....
the had a drought in the UK in '10 that may still be going on, with garbage or nothing everywhere, even in established markets, and most of the H there reportedly does come from the middle east! So I know Afghanistan is producing all this heroin, but it really makes you wonder....
A lot of the government agencies that like to spew propaganda on the American public would love it if ALL the heroin was coming from Afghanistan, and it was killing people all over the US! That way, they could simultaneously justify the billions we've wasted on war in the Middle East with the billions we've wasted on the war on drugs at the same time!
I would agree that there's a fuck-load more opiate/opioid addicts now in this country, but it's the pharmaceutical companies and the US government agencies charged with over seeing them that are directly responsible for that! Not the Taliban! Although I'm not surprised their not taking responsibility!
So yeah, I'm sure there's some people who have switched from pills to heroin and I'm sure theres some enterprising dealers from small towns who have started to traffic it from the cities where it's available to fill the demand, and maybe some people have ODd! Again, it's nothing compared to the amount of deaths caused by prescription opiates/opioids, but hey....
As far as classic ECP that you generally see east of the Mississippi, I pretty much think the quality and availability have been about the same for a long time.....
As far as tar goes, well I really have no idea, but I suspect there probably is more of that around, because it's completely produced from start to finish in Mexico and I'm sure somebody is smart enough to have had the idea to try to market it to pill users, although I think most people would be more likely to switch to ECP, but that's just my personal opinion...
Edit: And the reason I bring up the general shittiness of cocaine....
Cocaine and heroin gets into the US from Mexico through the same channels, pretty much the same groups importing it....It would make sense to me that, if the purity and availabilty of one went up, it would probably happen with both....still, it seems to be a lot easier to come across really good H these days than really good coke.....Last edited:bmoreharfordroad
Greenlighter
I noticed that when I lived there briefly. The projects was the only place to go otherwise you better have a phone number. Not much open air there at all, not like Pittsburgh Papers like to say.bmoreharfordroad
Greenlighter
In Baltimore you can "cop and bop" pretty much any place in the city. It is not hard to get a phone number by the raw dope shops but most of the scramble is sold on the corner. There are many people who don't try to get phone numbers they just cop off the corners, it becomes part of the addiction chasing itbmoreharfordroad
Greenlighter
Yeah Annapolis does have those pj's were they only sell ready rock. I always thought that was crazy because they are so close to bmore, why don't they sell more dope?bmoreharfordroad
Greenlighter
The Wire is a tv show and some things are exaggerated, you're right. They did used to stand and shout names before Omalley took office, shit was more wide open. They still do have touts out there in some spots not like it used to be, they don't pay people to stand and shout a products name anymore. Usually whoever has the dope says something now. People are more careful because of the police, and that has scared many people, but you will find spots with around 100 people waiting because the dope is so good, but they will wait for a large crowd before they serve because the area is so hot for police. Also dope shops will stay moving have about 3 or 4 locations were they can serve people and hide from the police. Smackdown used to move around a lot, so did Jigga, and Ray Charles, you have too now. They all got knocked off though.
PantyRaid
Bluelighter
^ man i remember ray charles.. blast from the fucking past man
HighonLife
Bluelighter
^^ i know yall arent talkin bout THE ray charles
but....
think about this, the dude was blind AND an IV drug user, think about all the people who have trouble IV'in drugs yet this dude managed to do it without eye sight
crazy thing to think about imo
BlueHues
Bluelighter
^He musta been missin LAMF! lol....he probably had people hittin em at least some of the time!
that is a hardcore mother fucker!!
HighonLife
Bluelighter
i agree that he prob had people shootin him up sometimes
but they say blind peoples other senses get hightened so all i can imagine is like these blind ninja master needle skills that would just make your jaw drop
PantyRaid
Bluelighter
Ray charles like a boss yo- Status
