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Open Air Scenes?

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I've always looked at night time as the safest time to go if you had a connect already because the cops wont be aboe to tell your white as easily and they will be more busy dealing with violent crime at night hopefully. Cold copping definitely is less stressful during the day but you just trade im gonna get robbed stress for im gonna get busted stress

Fucking this, I'd usually wake up real late from the night before go cop from my dude at midnight and then went to work all night, plus he wasn't in that shady of an area considering he'd let me come almost directly to where he lived since it was that late
I wouldn't mind copping real early in the morning much either but then it was always a gamble on what hood I'd have to meet him in because he'd already be on the go and let's just face it, sometimes it's a must from being up sick all the night before

But yeah of course I'm only saying this cause I had a reliable connect
Cold copping at night is always gonna be sketchy
 
Fucking this, I'd usually wake up real late from the night before go cop from my dude at midnight and then went to work all night, plus he wasn't in that shady of an area considering he'd let me come almost directly to where he lived since it was that late
I wouldn't mind copping real early in the morning much either but then it was always a gamble on what hood I'd have to meet him in because he'd already be on the go and let's just face it, sometimes it's a must from being up sick all the night before

But yeah of course I'm only saying this cause I had a reliable connect
Cold copping at night is always gonna be sketchy

Peak time in Chicago is 8am or so. After 9 or 10pm (especially now that it's winter and freezing) the d-boys are gone. Best time for me to go, now that I'm living outside the city, due to traffic is between 10am - 2pm. After 230 or 3 the kids are coming home from school and the cops are OUT. Streets seething with schoolkids.

And then from 5 - 6pm people are getting off work and the cops know that so they're also around then too.

But the other day things were hopping around 830pm. And a new corner I found claims to be open from 630am to 11pm. I don't believe them... But I also don't want to go at a super late, semi dangerous hour to find out either...

Gwen
 
Baltimore open air scene is crazy, never more than 5-10 mins in the hood and you can find anything you want pretty much, heroin, cra., coke, weed, and pills mostly, from most to least easy to find. Its not exactly like it was back in the wire days (there aren't people shouting out brand names quite so blatantly, at least where I cop) but never takes long to find stuff on the street, and i've only once been sold bunk drugs, never robbed. It is sketchy being the only white person in the area though, you stand out like a sore thumb.

I feel you on the stickin out like a sore thumb part. It was like that for a min meeting my conn down cold spring until people got used to always seeing me. Now his cell is done, guess I get to test the "open air" . Just feel lk an idiot if I ask the wrong person lol
 
Philadelphia and Camden are like a Walmart when it comes to open air scenes.

Each has its pros/cons... but you can easily find heroin/crack in both. Marijuana is fairly common and powdered cocaine is around but less prevelant. I dont smoke "wet" but ever since it was in the news tied to murders they came down on the spots in Camden...(but actually I cant say this is true, cause i dont look for it). I dont think there is much meth on these streets, but one Camden spot seems to cut their Coke with amphetamines. As for shrooms/ectasy Ive only heard of street copping in BL lore.

I feel like I could write a more detailed (yet BL rule following) reply but Ill just say that: yes Philadelphia and Camden have very open street dealing that makes getting a Big Mac from McDonalds seem slow.
 
Minneapolis junkie here as far as I know in the last 3/4 years there has never been a single open air market. Even on the nasty north side. 100% phone/corner/wait thing going on.

That being said, it'd be lovely to just drive by, and drive away 10 seconds later with what I needed. Then again, the phone connect is always the exact same fire fire shit and I never need to waste dope doing a tester shot so I don't OD. Shits like clockwork purity, an exact dollar amount will always get you the exact high, basically pharmacy operation with the reliability

Another thing I'm thankful for with the phone/corner setup is that you don't get all the risks of being young and skinny junkie, the only white person for miles around. Equally likely to be jumped and robbed as the dboys being suspicious and not selling you shit
 
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Philadelphia and Camden are like a Walmart when it comes to open air scenes.

Each has its pros/cons... but you can easily find heroin/crack in both. Marijuana is fairly common and powdered cocaine is around but less prevelant. I dont smoke "wet" but ever since it was in the news tied to murders they came down on the spots in Camden...(but actually I cant say this is true, cause i dont look for it). I dont think there is much meth on these streets, but one Camden spot seems to cut their Coke with amphetamines. As for shrooms/ectasy Ive only heard of street copping in BL lore.

I feel like I could write a more detailed (yet BL rule following) reply but Ill just say that: yes Philadelphia and Camden have very open street dealing that makes getting a Big Mac from McDonalds seem slow.

Its better quality than Walmart though. I like to compare it to a Nascar pit change

also

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Just recently (early january) relaspsed on dope. There is a thriving, legendary, open air n TJ. But found a hookup on this side of the border. Hommie had a couple of warrants so one night when we were going to meet the connect, on the way to his house I had 5-O flip a bitch and come follow me. While I was trying to find a place to park, he panicked and jumped out of the car when I took a turn. I got on the freeway straight away and went south an exit, then north and came back. I parked amd walked to his house and there was a cop infront of the house he was staying at shaking down some dude. In the hour it took before they towed the dudes car away and took him to jail I had to wait. In that time I lost my car- had parked and dashed in a hurry. Anyway I went to homeboys house (actually attick) after the cops were gone, and had been looking for my car for half an hour. Smoked some tar, and then went looking for my car. Finally found it in an unlikely place, but in the process I discovered where the open air crack scene was. Don't know about open air scenes for other drugs on this side of the border but it was like 2:30 am and seemingly quite active. I found my car, parked, smoked more stuff, and by 5:00 am was on my merry way. Stayed away from tweak that night, had endured enough sketchyness. For a while, was sure my car had been jacked.
 
I just moved to massachusetts from the bay area of Cali, and i would LOVE to have an open air spot around here... If my guys werent answeringg their phones or they were all out or whatever, i could always just go to the tenderloin of SF and find some good gear usually pretty quickly. you just gotta learn how to profile people.... Now that Im in MA i dont know anyone and cant find shit. The few times ive tried asking random people (Who i was almost certain did dope) got all sketched out and acted like they had no idea what i was talking about.
 
The first thing you should do when you move to a new spot when your a Junkie is
1) Locate All Methadone Clinics
2) Locate All Needle Exchanges
3) Read Articles About Drug Busts In You Local Area (Personally like to use the online local Newspaper) to find the general areas
 
Open air heroin really only exists in certain established areas in certain cities in the US.....You can cop crack open air just about anywhere, even if its not technically open-air...just go to any gas station or store in the hood after 6pm anywhere and its pretty easy to spot....of course, you'll probably end up with a piece of peanut cut into a little rectangle, but hey!

I think a lot of people would switch from pills to heroin if it were available to them.....and yet, it doesn't really seem to be spreading all THAT much.....I really think theres barely enough H to supply the existing demand right now, because otherwise it would be everywhere and it would be cheap.....
 
BH I mean this with no disrespect because you do know about your area and Im sure you've seem some shit, but you really dont know what you are talkiig about if you think that is true.

At least in the Philadelphia area, heroin is replacing roxis faster then anyone even realizes. And im not talkin in the city itself, because theres always been mad dope usage dowm there. But it is spreading outwards faster than Ive ever seem. I live about 3-4 miles north geographically of where some of the worst ghettos in Philly are at, and back in like 09-10 I very rarely saw people doing H (im such a trend setter haha). And the few people I knew who did were snorters, and only did it because they knew me, and I knew someone who had fam down in the "rough" parts.

But in a span of 2.5-3 years, its completely changed. Most people look at dope as acceptable now. Where as before it was OCs and Roxis that were accepted because they were pharms so ppl just felt better about them, with the recent amount of scandals and BS going on in the pharm biz people are starting to realize heroin is really not much different.

Shit, I know this will make some laugh but I would say 90% of heroin dealers have better morals than any Pharmaceutical company's board of directors. A lot of people sling just because there really isnt any other choice. The only reason they get a bad rep is because of the shootings and the murders.

But if you think about it, all the shootings really are is a form of street court system. Instead of dragging BS cases (suboxone case comes to mind) through courts these guys settle shit a lot more quickly. Sure, it is illegal and they dont even kill the right guy most of the time, but I feel like if there is a concious and objective effort to just make the drug game more like how the La Cosa Nostra would do it, there would be a lot less of a spillover into innocent bystanders.

If these drug dealers and enforcers would just kill each other and stop spraying up whole blocks, people would actually probably not even care. Because at the end of the day, the only difference between a drug dealer on the block, and Purdue Pharma headquarters, is that one of them has buddies in Washington DC with a fat check book and no soul. But on either side, money is still the #1 objective and they could both give two fucks about their public image.

And thats the other thing people dont realize. We create this materialistic world, give the inner city dwellers all the market setups of a huge profitable enterprise, then turn around and wonder why they would rather make money for chilling on the corner then working for it. Like thats what people in the hood do anyway, chill on the corner, so why the fuck would you get a job if you can get paid more and faster for just chilling with your boys?

But really, Big Pharm and those guys are like Stockton dishing to Malone. Big pharm starts the process by getting kids hooked on the "safe" opiates. But eventually some make their way down to the lions, snakes, and gorillas (anyone know that meek mill line? lol it felt relevant), who are more than happy to give Big Pharm the assist by slamming down some bags. And if you decide you want to stop copping, well now we come full circle back to Big Pharm with their bupe / methadone products.

and this is just another thing KRS One was right about

and if you ever wonder why someone got shot in an inner city on the news or w/e, im telling you Wu Tang had it right all along

Cash Rules Everything Around Me

if there wasnt huge amounts of money involved, the govt wouldnt even waste its time, but there is money involved and its money THEY are losing, so you bet your ass they are going to try and lock these dealers up.

And if you want proof ask any cop whos worked in Philly for a decent amount of time, its not even about getting the small time users anymore. They know whats going on, and some of the biggest drug selling areas usually have plain clothed officers in plain sight. People just dont care, and the cops just dont care, so it is just like they both look the other way.

Not to say the cops "dont care" at all, its just most of them realize pretty damn quick that guns are the number one priority, not chasing junkies. Occasionally if a decently sized drug dealer slips up they will take him down out of necessity. But its like trying to hold a cup of water in your hands, no matter how much you try its all just gonna fall apart and back onto the street anyway.

Most of the cops mentality is simply "I hope I dont get a gun pulled on me today" not "Im gonna bust every junkie I see"

idk im starting to ramble but at least in my area, Heroin is a very very real problem with a very very tricky tricky way to solve it due to all the factors above.
 
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You're talking about Phillie....Established northeastern cities are a completely different ballgame, although theres still not nearly as much of it around as there was when I started shooting dope in 96-97

the first bags of dope I ever got I traded somebody a super nintendo game for in 1992 thinking it was something else....when I realized it was heroin, I tried to get my friends to snort it with me and there were no takers, so I did it myself and ended up puking

I don't think Oxycontin even existed in its original form when I started shooting dope and I remember when it first started going around people didnt even know what is was...even people doin percocet didnt know what it was.....

Slowly that became popular etc.....and then they changed the formula a few years ago, and yeah, I imagine if you started using pills at say 18 and were 22 years old now and gradually started meeting more users and seeing your friends switch to heroin, it would probably seem like theres more heroin now than there used to be....and there's lots of shit going around about drug clinics seeing more people switch to heroin etc etc....

Pre-9/11 there was way more dope, way more open air and the quality was way better....period.....

What I was saying....there's enough of a demand at this point that you could flood every mid size city in the US with heroin right now and there would be a market for it because of all the people that got a taste for opiates from the oxy epidemic, but it's still hard to get in most places and more expensive and shittier than its worth even if you can find it....

Baltimore, Phillie, NY etc are long-established heroin markets that have always had a lot of dope and still do, but there's not as much of it now as there was 14 years ago....

Honestly, the quality in the late '90s was dangerous in the northeast.....not that you can't still get good dope now, but the majority of the dope back then was absolutely ridiculous.....For the most part, its a lot more stepped on now....

I never even went through a opiate pill phase......
 
Yes it is more cut on average id say but I think that is proof alone of the rising number of people involved in it
 
In somwhere like philly, its easy to switch from oxy to dope because it's literally right around the corner, but the Oxy epidemic swept through the country like a wild fire and created an epidemic of opiate addicts in areas that it was previously very uncommon....

Now that they changed formulas and tightened regulations, people in smaller mid size cities in places like the midwest are fucked! Prices have doubled and the supply is way down.....and the second anyone with a major pill habit gets there hands on a few lines of some decent H, any predjudice they had towards switching to dope goes out the window! If I was a major drug cartel trying to make money, I'd be all over it, handing out samples, setting up shop, but for the most part, that isn't really happening....

The only reason I can think of why it isn't happening is that whoever is bringing the drugs in already has their hands full supplying the major cities where H has always been popular.....

I mean, this country could be plunged into a heroin epidemic the likes of whats never been seen before, with all the "normal" suburban people who never thought of touching it that live in Bumfuck Kansas getting hooked on smack....I mean, I could definitely see it! Shit, it really could happen!

On a side note.....One of the reasons open-air used to be so much more popular....

Nobody used to have cell phones! It was all land-lines and pagers, payphones....So, if you paged your guy from home and he told you to go up there and meet him at such and such a time, you couldnt just call him cell to cell! The dealers had to have somebody always by the phone.....I would say it wasnt until really 99-00 that it became common for most dealers to have cells....

they actually used to have these spanish "phone-stores" that you could go to.....they were all pretty much right in the dope neighborhoods....they would charge you a dollar to let you use a phone in a little booth so that you could page the dealer and get a call back and he could tell you where to meet up etc...It was a dollar a page though! So if he wouldnt call you back, it got expensive! It was easier a lot of the time to cop off the streets back then, but I'd say it was more dangerous too....people knew you had money and if you pulled up to the wrong group of guys, boom!

Anywayy, yeah....
 
That is true about the cell phones

I'm sorry if I came off kind of hostile because I have to remember we're from different eras here.

But it just infuriates me to see Heroin called a "problem" while Pharm companies are making billions all while being protected by the US Govt.

Eventually this country will wake the fuck up but I dont talk about this shit IRL so maybe some people never will because not everyone comes to a forum to talk about open air scenes.
 
True! You really can't talk about this shit in real life! And I can come off as a dick, I know....or like I think I know everything, but it's embarassing really to be 36 years old and have spent most of your life since 20 either on heroin or trying to get off of it!

but no offense taken man....I don't think I'm some kind of "heroin guru" or something or that I know everything about it, and it's actually pathetic how much time Ive wasted on this shit!!

Followed by: don't end up like me!

And the whole "Let's put 80 mgs of oxycodone in one little pill and prescribe it to everyone!" thing, yeah its pretty infuriating! There were string opiates around before OCs came out but for some reason, they weren't nearly as over-prescribed! why is that?! Kind of suspicious
 
I stopped doing it man and I don't want to act like I am a heroin guru either. There are some on this website that got way more deep into than I ever was or could become.

But I respect anyone who truly knows how it all works and looks at it with an unbiased attitude.
 
Honestly dude, I know it sounds like typical drug user conspiracy theory talk, but I truly believe the DEA wants to pump as many drugs into this country as possible.

It not only gives them job security, but allows them to inflate their already inflated numbers so all the sheeple who read in the paper "5 million dollar Heroin Bust!" go

"well thank god its off the streets"

when in reality, it would never be worth 5 million unless you had every junkie in the city coming to you for a few bags at a time and that would attract so much law enforcement it would never work anyway.

Nobody seems to care about the billions being pumped out in the form of little pills though, because the 'ole Doctor said they were good for me

Where do you think some of that money is going to?

like it's so fucking obvious how crooked the whole system is it makes me sick.

There should be NO LOBBYISTS for ANYTHING

how do people not realize that all lobbying is is legalized bribery and whoever has the most money can pull the puppet strings on how our laws run

This country needs to wake the fuck up and I seriously cant believe I see all this shit at 20 years old yet my parents generation are either too ignorant or just dont know what to do to stop it.
 
agreed. but be careful. I've been out there for a few years with no problem til the last 6 months. been gripped up and searched by the cops 4 times in the last 6 months. luckily i hide things well, but did catch one charge. cfcf isn't fun for whiteboys, but you get along. avoid it if possible. be careful but the scene is still waaay less sketchy than baltimore or newark/patterson imo
 
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