Delta-9-THC
Bluelighter
You argue that having a very long period of human use makes them proven to be quite safe while newer drugs are more of a risk. This is true to a certain degree but it doesn't mean we shouldn't try new materials. It does mean we should be more cautious and decisive about which ones we take and how we use them..
What about the first people to take these plant drugs 1000s of years ago? Weren't they taking a HUGE risk by ingesting various concoctions they found growing around them? I wonder how many died because they had no idea what they were doing and ingested a dangerous plant. Weren't these people, the pioneers of your beloved entheogen using culture, taking huge and unnecessary risks as well?
In fact, we are actually in a much better position now to try to identify new drugs(synthetic or natural) and determine whether they are safe or not before ever ingesting them because of our extensive knowledge of pharmacology and the human body.
These pioneers didn't stop when they found one thing that worked either, they continued to try many different plant drugs and take huge risks because they thought it was worth the risk of DEATH to find a new conduit to unique spiritual and profound experiences. I'm not saying I agree with this but I also don't say it is wrong. It is a personal choice.
Some people have the urge to experiment and search for new and profound experiences and we are in a much better position today to do this than shamans ever were, especially the pioneers who really had no idea what they were taking AT ALL.
People will always be trying to push the envelope to find something new and unique. It is human nature. If they hadn't, we would never have extracted pure DMT which, whether you agree with me or not, is IMO one of the most profound and awe inspiring experiences to be had. In fact, the only ones we did discover would have been purely by accident (which is actually almost certainly how we first learned of the effects of mushrooms).
It is your PERSONAL DECISION whether you want to pursue that and to what degree. I personally take a moderate stance on this because I value my health but I also crave novel experiences. I will never be the first to try a drug and I like to know that a fairly good amount of people have used that drug before me without any serious adverse effects but I don't require it to have been used for 1000s of years and neither did the first shamans.
Drugs like 2C-I/2C-B/2C-E have been used by quite a few people and there have been no indications that they are dangerous in reasonable dosages. Actually, all data points to them being quite safe. You are not taking a huge risk by trying these drugs at this point and you can minimize the chances even further by patiently working your way up to an effective dose instead of diving right in without testing the waters.
Your argument that the safest path is to only take these proven and time tested drugs holds some water. But it is not wrong or even stupid to want to try new things and expand our horizon of possible experiences. Actually, without this pursuit of novel experiences, many of your precious entheogens would never have been discovered.
What about the first people to take these plant drugs 1000s of years ago? Weren't they taking a HUGE risk by ingesting various concoctions they found growing around them? I wonder how many died because they had no idea what they were doing and ingested a dangerous plant. Weren't these people, the pioneers of your beloved entheogen using culture, taking huge and unnecessary risks as well?
In fact, we are actually in a much better position now to try to identify new drugs(synthetic or natural) and determine whether they are safe or not before ever ingesting them because of our extensive knowledge of pharmacology and the human body.
These pioneers didn't stop when they found one thing that worked either, they continued to try many different plant drugs and take huge risks because they thought it was worth the risk of DEATH to find a new conduit to unique spiritual and profound experiences. I'm not saying I agree with this but I also don't say it is wrong. It is a personal choice.
Some people have the urge to experiment and search for new and profound experiences and we are in a much better position today to do this than shamans ever were, especially the pioneers who really had no idea what they were taking AT ALL.
People will always be trying to push the envelope to find something new and unique. It is human nature. If they hadn't, we would never have extracted pure DMT which, whether you agree with me or not, is IMO one of the most profound and awe inspiring experiences to be had. In fact, the only ones we did discover would have been purely by accident (which is actually almost certainly how we first learned of the effects of mushrooms).
It is your PERSONAL DECISION whether you want to pursue that and to what degree. I personally take a moderate stance on this because I value my health but I also crave novel experiences. I will never be the first to try a drug and I like to know that a fairly good amount of people have used that drug before me without any serious adverse effects but I don't require it to have been used for 1000s of years and neither did the first shamans.
Drugs like 2C-I/2C-B/2C-E have been used by quite a few people and there have been no indications that they are dangerous in reasonable dosages. Actually, all data points to them being quite safe. You are not taking a huge risk by trying these drugs at this point and you can minimize the chances even further by patiently working your way up to an effective dose instead of diving right in without testing the waters.
Your argument that the safest path is to only take these proven and time tested drugs holds some water. But it is not wrong or even stupid to want to try new things and expand our horizon of possible experiences. Actually, without this pursuit of novel experiences, many of your precious entheogens would never have been discovered.
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