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Official 2013 NBA Thread vers. flippity floppity

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it's a different game now is what im trying to say

he would still dominate, just not to the god like status people put him on

and if you go simply by titles Bill Russel is the greatest nba player, even though Wilt Chamberlain was a better center
 
Wyld 4 X said:
I'm not an MJ fan but I did watch him in live games (in the 80s & 90s) and he is/was beyond special. To even think he would not be any better than DWade is not only laughable but shows a lack of knowledge of the game. So you saw some Jordan highlights on YouTube and compare them to live Kobe these days? There is no comparison between these guys in their primes. MJ simply dominated, period. Just because Kobe has issues with certain defenders is not an excuse for why he hasnt won more championships than Jordan (yet he still might) and is maybe not as prolific a scorer as MJ over the long haul of his career. In all honesty, MJ likely would have won 8 consecutive championships had he not quit for nearly 2 years. And this is where the comparison to DWade is really funny because Jordan quit basketball for ~2 years, comes back and the Bulls 3-peat, again. This fact right here is reason enough to separate him from other superstars of the last few decades.

The old joke about the only person to hold Jordan under 20 points a game being Dean Smith still applies.
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Dwayne Wade is basically MJ without the outside shot.

They are clones of one another. MJ was simply better at shooting the three.
 
shimazu said:
it's a different game now is what im trying to say

he would still dominate, just not to the god like status people put him on
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I think we are debating similar ground just in different directions.


and if you go simply by titles Bill Russel is the greatest nba player, even though Wilt Chamberlain was a better center
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What determines the better center? If its scoring, Kareem is better than both Russell or Wilt. If its defense, then both Russell and Chamberlain are the front runners.

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Dwayne Wade is basically MJ without the outside shot.

They are clones of one another. MJ was simply better at shooting the three.
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MJ didnt become a good shooter until late in his career. DWade still hasnt developed a consistent jumper from beyond 20'. Wade is more comfortable driving and banging than being confident enough to shoot jumpers. LeBron has already figured this out at a younger age than Wade, MJ or Kobe.
 
All I know is, every old timer (and I use that term out of respect) I've ever heard on the radio said Wilt used to dominate Russel in their 1v1 matchups, Russel just had a better team.

I'm not sure if anyone on here is old enough to have seen them play live and remember it clearly so I'm just going to take their word for it

I hate arguing over "best of all time" in sports really because it all comes down to the team you play for and how you fit into that scheme.

and everyone has a bias towards the players they grew up watching as a youth. Like I'll say Vince Carter was a better dunker than MJ until I'm blue in the face but someone who grew up in the late 80s/early 90s may disagree.

speaking of actual basketball, I wonder if I wrote a letter to Sixers management detailing why they should go after Tyreke Evans in free agency if I would get a response
 
shimazu said:
I hate arguing over "best of all time" in sports really because it all comes down to the team you play for and how you fit into that scheme.
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Very true. I dont know about the Russell/Wilt 1v1 thing, just know that Russell and the Celtics owned the NBA in the 60s. And it was a totally different era of play then; it was team driven and not so much star driven. Wilt was a superstar at the wrong time. If he been born a few decades later, he'd fit right into the game of today because the NBA is a star driven league now. The Spurs are kind of a throwback to that older era of team driven basketball.

and everyone has a bias towards the players they grew up watching as a youth. Like I'll say Vince Carter was a better dunker than MJ until I'm blue in the face but someone who grew up in the late 80s/early 90s may disagree.
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Dominique Wilkins? Dr J? ;)
 
yeah idk man theres almost like two different kinds of dunkers

the flashy ones (Vince Carter, Dominique, MJ, Dr J)

and just the angry dunkers (Shawn Kemp, Shaq, Lebron, I guess I'd have to put Blake Griffin on here even though the NBA is on his cock)
 
^ Griffin is the epitome of just a plain NBA athletic freak. Great dunker and fun to watch but cant hit a 15' jumper consistently or shoot free throws and gets all pouty when calls dont go his way. He is one of those guys I wish I could trade bodies with because I would not waste the athleticism and potential he possesses. Maybe he will get better next year but something tells me he may not rise much above his current abilities plateau.
 
Wyld 4 X said:
He is one of those guys I wish I could trade bodies with because I would not waste the athleticism and potential he possesses.
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Easier said than done really, it's rare to find a PF who can hit that shot consistently while still being able to bang inside.

But that's what makes guys like Tim Duncan, Chris Bosh, and David West so valuable. And for all the dirty tricks he pulls KG is pretty solid from that range too
 
Lebron Raymone James is now the 2nd highest paid athlete in the world, if not the universe:

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/i...r-top-paid-us-athlete-2013-sports-illustrated

How does he have $39M in endorsements? What does he endorse? The only thing I really seen his face on is:

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(an energy strip, not an LSD gel)

And is Mayweather that interesting to watch?
 
China Rider said:
pacers are going to win the east
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posted on:19-10-2012 23:57

I hate how they have tyler hansBRO and josh mcroberts, I think?

hopefully they are just two DNP whores, I hate white tobacco road NBA'ers

although after hearing a few interviews, JJ redick is actually a pretty cool guy
 
dude, if the pacers beat the heat in the conference finals I will never post on bluelight again

thats how sure I am its not going to happen
 
heat win in 6 and you guys find a way to blame it on the refs

calling it now
 
fuck your laptop bro what can you modify on that

nothing, swap some ram sticks maybe

I could build a better conputer with the toilet paper rolls I just threw out after wiping away all that bullshit you just unloaded
 
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