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Official 2013 NBA Thread vers. flippity floppity

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Yeah it's actually pretty hilarious you guys are trying to defend James. If you don't think those are flops.. well you are fucking blind, or I think you just don't want to admit it for some reason. Which I don't know why that would be the case when the proof is right in front of your eyes

Seriously if you come back and still tell me he doen't flop I don't even know if I can take you or any Heat fans serious anymore
 
again, nobody's saying he doesn't flop. What's being said is: he's not a flopper.

Embarrassing little gifs can be made about any athlete.

Fact is, Lebron is such a force that he gets fouled practically every time he touches the ball. Only a very small fraction of these fouls are called. He gets almost as little respect from the refs as Shaq used to get.

Lebron haters are like an arena that screams out "AIRBALL AIRBALL" after a guy who was 10 for 10 takes a bad shot.
 
I dont like the flopping but what is a guy to do if he is getting hit and no calls are being made? You could talk/complain to the ref and nothing changes or maybe you will get a call eventually. Or, you can "overreact" and put the onus on the ref to make a call.

Arci said:
Nope not about any athlete.

Type in Kobe Bryant flop gif in Google and all you find is gifs of other players flopping on kobe bryant lol


Now type in Michael Jordan flop gif... nothing
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Kobe doesnt flop but he played up those shot fakes to get the defender in the air then he "shoots" into them or sticks his leg out (now illegal thanks to him) to create contact. Its not flopping but its creating contact where there is a question of it. At least the league has adjusted to that silliness. We shall see if fines adjust the flopping or not.

MJ was a different player in a different era. Not sure Kobe could have played in the physical 80s to mid 90s NBA era tbh.
 
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Love this one ^


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Lebron would have thrown his arms in the air and might have even fell on his back if he got contact like this. And he is waaay bigger than Kobe, that's why every knows he is faking and one of the biggest floppers in the league. A guy his size should not be thrown around so easy

I mean seriously one hand up to block the ball, the other to push him in the chest mid air.... still no foul.
 
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Arci said:
You're kidding right?

I hope you are
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Not really. Could Kobe have played through the Detroit Pistons of the late 80s and early 90s? That was who MJ had to beat in order to establish his legacy. Kobe is a great player, likely in the discussion for top 5 all-time but the 1980s and early 90s NBA game was very physical. He is a tough dude, I believe, but I'm not inclined to believe he would have flourished in a more physical era without Shaq. That is my point. Its possible that if not for the Perkins injury in game 6 of the last Boston/LA Finals series, Kobe would still have 4 championships and not 5.

On an another point, Kobe likely would have passed MJ in championships already had he opted to share the spotlight with Shaq for a few more years. Who was the one constant for MJ even when MJ retired, played baseball, un-retired and won 3 more championships? Scottie Pippen (and Phil Jackson to be on point). MJ might be a jerk but he knew a dominant winning formula when he saw it.
 
Wyld there was also a lot less number of athletic freaks on defense in the late 80s/90s.

Sure MJ dunked on Ewing and Zo and just about every big name, but he also posterized some out of shape white guy every other dunk too.

Kobe played against more polished competition across the board, as in, the bench players of this era are way better than the bench players of old.

if MJ played today he would be like on Dwayne Wade's level IMO. Not "the face of the league" but still a superstar in his own right.
 
Arci said:
Yeah it's actually pretty hilarious you guys are trying to defend James. If you don't think those are flops.. well you are fucking blind, or I think you just don't want to admit it for some reason. Which I don't know why that would be the case when the proof is right in front of your eyes

Seriously if you come back and still tell me he doen't flop I don't even know if I can take you or any Heat fans serious anymore
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Stop drinking the hatorade. I said that wasn't a flop. Mohammad pushed him 2 handed off a rising lunge - anybody would fall. He just knows how to fall so it looks like a flop.

James flops - I've seen it live several times. But I've also watched 50 odd games this year and seen nearly every NBA player flop. James is far from the worst. Ginobili, Durant, Wade, Parker, JRSmith, Melo, Kobe, I mean come on - all those guys flop all day long.

The issue is that you're going to learn to sell calls in competitive contact sports - you'd even see it at girls High School soccer. And in all cases if you put it on slow motion from 10 angles it's going to look ridiculous. But in the heat of the moment it gets you a +1 and that's what they've learned to care about.
 
And just wtf are you even on about Kobe.. guy flops plenty and cried constantly even when there's zero contact.

Talk about bias.
 
flop or not?

that could be a new thread with the amount you people focus on it

 
shimazu said:
Wyld there was also a lot less number of athletic freaks on defense in the late 80s/90s.

Sure MJ dunked on Ewing and Zo and just about every big name, but he also posterized some out of shape white guy every other dunk too.

Kobe played against more polished competition across the board, as in, the bench players of this era are way better than the bench players of old.

if MJ played today he would be like on Dwayne Wade's level IMO. Not "the face of the league" but still a superstar in his own right.
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I'm not an MJ fan but I did watch him in live games (in the 80s & 90s) and he is/was beyond special. To even think he would not be any better than DWade is not only laughable but shows a lack of knowledge of the game. So you saw some Jordan highlights on YouTube and compare them to live Kobe these days? There is no comparison between these guys in their primes. MJ simply dominated, period. Just because Kobe has issues with certain defenders is not an excuse for why he hasnt won more championships than Jordan (yet he still might) and is maybe not as prolific a scorer as MJ over the long haul of his career. In all honesty, MJ likely would have won 8 consecutive championships had he not quit for nearly 2 years. And this is where the comparison to DWade is really funny because Jordan quit basketball for ~2 years, comes back and the Bulls 3-peat, again. This fact right here is reason enough to separate him from other superstars of the last few decades.

The old joke about the only person to hold Jordan under 20 points a game being Dean Smith still applies.
 
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