RCs Novel benzodiazepine, Bromazolam

[PtahTek]

Don't think I'm dosing enough.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

@roi and @Azed Flubromazolam and Bromazolam ime don't compare.
Didn't like the former but did like the latter. A bit to much, like Clonazolam.

So didn't order Bromazolam any more, but my vendor gives out a free bag along my next order. So I am pleased to have the opp to take it one more time. Ordered also DesChloroEtizolam 5 mg pellet's. The closest thing to the OG Etizolam I found till now.

And names are misleading DesMethylFlunitrazepam (also called Fonazepam), sounds good to a lot of people right. I took it and found it total crap just like I found its parent compound also unimpressive. And the Flunitrazolam version mediocry, but useful.

 

[PtahTek]

I quite similar to xanax but it doesn't make me so dumb

I thought this may be true when I tried it i find very little similarities other than they both are benzos.
Brmzlm seems more dissociation effects for me. Takes about an hour to an hour and a half to "peak" and I sure cannot take brmzlm like alprzlm; mg to mg what I have researched is definitely sleepy time over 2mg with a 2-3yr tolerance.
Under a mg works for me and my ghosties.
Can damn sure dissociate; though. Ime.
Peace and be careful, plz.

The above is just some results from my research we may all get differing results.
Never tried the 3mg pills man they have prolly sold trillions of em. Maybe more but cannot count that high.

 

[smokeymcpot42088]

Hmmm I never tried this one as I kinda missed the boat but I thought it would be very similar to alprazolam. Like so close that alot if not most xanny bars on the street are bromaz and hardly anyone ever could tell?

But lil'linaaptksix I believe your anecdotal experience more than all of that that to be honest. I don't think most street buyers could tell etizolam from xanax (or insert any benzo really)...

so you find bromaz more hypnotic/stronger than xanax mg for mg at high doses. I may very well prefer that really.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

I thought this may be true when I tried it infind very little similarities other than they both are benzos.
Brmzlm seems more dissociation effects for me. Takes about an hour to an hour and a half to "peak" and I sure cannot take brmzlm like alprzlm; mg to mg what I have researched is definitely sleepy time over 2mg with a 2-3yr tolerance.
Under a mg works for me and my ghosties.
Can damn sure dissociate; though. Ime.
Peace and be careful, plz.

The above is just some results from my research we may all get differing results.
Never tried the 3mg pills man they have prolly sold trillions of em. Maybe more but cannot count that high.

Bromazolam is indeed not like Alprazolam, which hit's pretty fast and feel's kinda empty to me. But to get to sleep it worked fine. The halflife could be about the same. The equivalent of Bromazolam to Alprazolam (3mg = 0.5mg, just a rough guess!).

As dissociation is part of me, i don't notice it but I am alway's foggy when wakening since my injury.
For daytime use Pyrazolam is perfect, or even better Clobazam. No noticeable typical benzo effect's like sedation or retardation.

 

[pharaoh]

As the guy above said, bromaz is not like alprazolam at all. I got some when I ordered some alprazolam as a treat. Knew they were bunk straight away. Sent them for testing - bromazolam. Seemed to be quite sedating but I can't really assess it as I'm on diazepam but every time I ate one, I felt sleepy. Alprazolam would give me a good "high", quick and not highly sedating, almost a buzz and I'd be able to go out and chat with anyone but these made me sleepy.

 

[PtahTek]

so you find bromaz more hypnotic/stronger than xanax mg for mg at high doses

IME yes.
If it is indeed bromazolam that is taken. It also seems the higher I dose the longer it stays with me (half-life). I can hit .25 mg doses but it's like every couple hours until I reach my goal which is usually around .75 to 1mg. 2mg and I "feel" it throughout the next day. Lethargy and just not there in a sorta way. Coffee does help a little haha
If I skip a dose (like my 8am one this morn) I feel "lighter" in a sense but have to feel I'm at a safe spot.
Hope your day goes well and for us all.
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Ed: Not advocating brmzlm in the least but it meets my needs.
I could list many and some are to be left in the past, yeah?

 

[smokeymcpot42088]

Yea advocating RC benzos is a risky proposition. I have been way way down that road though. IMPE so much preferable to a script and so much less of a hassle. The only one I would advocate against is phenazepam. That ish is straight black out powder. No buzz no relief no buzz, "where the fuck am I and what day is it" long ass halflife builds in your system everyday.

But I gotta be good, I had my fun and I do NEED benzos so I won't play around. For now... lol

 

[emkee_reinvented]

IME yes.
If it is indeed bromazolam that is taken. It also seems the higher I dose the longer it stays with me (half-life). I can hit .25 mg doses but it's like every couple hours until I reach my goal which is usually around .75 to 1mg. 2mg and I "feel" it throughout the next day. Lethargy and just not there in a sorta way. Coffee does help a little haha
If I skip a dose (like my 8am one this morn) I feel "lighter" in a sense but have to feel I'm at a safe spot.
Hope your day goes well and for us all.
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Ed: Not advocating brmzlm in the least but it meets my needs.
I could list many and some are to be left in the past, yeah?

So Bromazolam has a longer halflive as Alprazolam. Due to my constant state of tiredness I never considered lingering Bromazolam could be worsening it. Assumed it was in the league of medium duration (Oxazepam or Lorazepam) and unlike Diazepam or NorFlurazepam, but its more in between. Thank's for the info, so this halflive I will just have to sit it out, this morning.

 

[PtahTek]

I will just have to sit it out, this morning

Maybe.... Can't say for sure but I dosed last night maybe over a mg and skipped morning dose again as I'm trying to clear my head with kratom, coffee, cig and a little sativa.
Usually in about an hour I'll be good and hopefully give budah her bath.
Want to shampoo carpet but we'll see, ya? lol

never considered lingering Bromazolam could be worsening it.

Just my opinion but it may be worth consideration....

I see a lot of post saying it has a short half-life idk what to say about that maybe we all getting whatever is closest at hand when it's shipping time. Hahaha

 

[Jen X]

Watch out for black outs. When I tried a few different RC benzos all I got was missing time and embarrassment.
Benzos have never been euphoric for me which is a good thing, opioids are my poison

 

[JackARoe]

I see a lot of post saying it has a short half-life idk what to say about that maybe we all getting whatever is closest at hand when it's shipping time. Hahaha

This is true. I felt like deleting my posts in the pyrazolam thread because of the accusations thrown at vendors, and almost all of them, that they may send out what they can. Who knows what I have had with pyrazolam without testing. Whatever it is is quick hitting, strong, non drowsy not too long acting. Took it a handful of times.

I always felt the people feeling bromazolam for 2-3 days at a regular dose may have gotten flubromazolam. I have had bromazolam a handful of times since I last posted. If I stay under a mg (which I do) and take it at dinner I can sleep and wake up refreshed. I have had lingering drowsiness the one time I took 1.5 the next day. I also have a fast metabolism.

So Bromazolam has a longer halflive as Alprazolam. Due to my constant state of tiredness I never considered lingering Bromazolam could be worsening it. Assumed it was in the league of medium duration (Oxazepam or Lorazepam) and unlike Diazepam or NorFlurazepam, but its more in between. Thank's for the info, so this halflive I will just have to sit it out, this morning.

I think people here guessing is better than the current info out there. 14 hour HL?? Can't go by me, with etizolam, and I am talking the pink etizest pills, if I took more than 1 milligram right at bedtime I could feel it a little the next day. Probably due to metabolites and lack of tolerance.

 

[PtahTek]

If I stay under a mg (which I do) and take it at dinner I can sleep and wake up refreshed.

Same.
I usually wait til 8pm but may move scheduling cause the sooner in the sooner out. Ime

 

[PtahTek]

Watch out for black outs.

What black out(s)?

 

[emkee_reinvented]

This is true. I felt like deleting my posts in the pyrazolam thread because of the accusations thrown at vendors, and almost all of them, that they may send out what they can. Who knows what I have had with pyrazolam without testing. Whatever it is is quick hitting, strong, non drowsy not too long acting. Took it a handful of times.

I always felt the people feeling bromazolam for 2-3 days at a regular dose may have gotten flubromazolam. I have had bromazolam a handful of times since I last posted. If I stay under a mg (which I do) and take it at dinner I can sleep and wake up refreshed. I have had lingering drowsiness the one time I took 1.5 the next day. I also have a fast metabolism.

I think people here guessing is better than the current info out there. 14 hour HL?? Can't go by me, with etizolam, and I am talking the pink etizest pills, if I took more than 1 milligram right at bedtime I could feel it a little the next day. Probably due to metabolites and lack of tolerance.

The Pyrazolam description fits how it should be fast hittting, not to log during (no active metabolites). The 3 mg pellet's I have are the same, prettty sure its the real thing.

Bromazolam ime lingers more like a while into the next day. Unlike Etizolam which felt better and had no lingering effect's. Perfect lenght.

 

[AutoTripper]

So....

I just managed to procure a little, just for now, more pure legit Bromazolam powder from Holland.


However, and obviously I counted on diff batch and synthesis likely subtle difference.

Including the shade, last yr was real pinky.

But damn I never expected pure white like Etizolam.

Less bitter on tongue too by a bit.

I'm confident it's Brom not Etiz.

Just the pure white version. Has different texture too, the pink was heavier more grainy, easier to scoop up, tip back etc, this white one can't tip or shake off measure spoon, and is like snow clinging all over so eyeballing it a v safe practice has tricked me out already, back of scoop plastered without me clocking while never happened with the pink.

I mean it's two distinct formulas for sure. And I'm sure both Brom too.



White I swear is superior. Like a different benzo.

Stronger and seems faster and more anxiolysis vs pink one. Resembles Etiz more.


I've heard people saying Bromazolam is their favourite benzo, I never understood this, it's the only pure legit uncut powder one I can get since the crooks stole Etiz away


But I get it now. IME pink Bromazolam is shit vs white. Hits harder faster more anxiolysis and nice feeling like Etiz, vs just coming on of effects with pink one.


Very surprised and pleased. You can certainly get very "barred out" with this white Bromazolam easily too, a few mg's more than need it's like hot water/cold water shower tap a bit.

I mean it's as useful maybe more to me this point as Etiz would be. Very pleasant stuff.

 

[Pastel]

For reference, I used Etiz for sleep at 0.5-1 for sleep every night for over 10 before I stopped cold turkey. When I first got it I tried it once recreationally at 10mg which was crazy and ruined my memory for next 3 months. While I would not use benzos recreationally aside from trying them out, I also tried etizolam with small amount of alcohol maybe 5-7 times on the occasions when I was planning to go to sleep, got interrupted, and had a drink. That was actually turned out to be a lot of fun, though I wouldn't do it on purpose more than a few time.
So just before I finally got my willpower to quit Etizolam because I was running out of it and didn't like what it was doing for my memory, I bought Bromazolam while it was still available as a back up if my attempt to quit would meet with failure.

Being off Etizolam for 2 months, I tried Bromazolam 3 times. At 0.5 mg, 1mg and 1mg with a couple of glasses of wine.
First of all I hate its slightly bitter taste.
Second, while I was able to fall asleep on 0.5mg once, it took me an hour of tossing and turning in bad. The same thing happened with 1mg. With etizolam, I always fall asleep within 10-15 minutes and sometimes it spills from under my tongue on a pillow if I lie on my side.

When I took 1mg of Bromazolam, I got 10 hours of sleep which is something that even with etizolam I wasn't capable of for 10 years.

On those a few occasions when I took Etizolam and didn't go to sleep, I understood the reason why people take benzos recreationally. It gave me a mild, but distinct light euphoria. When I later had some alcohol this euphoria was greatly enhanced and was different from pure alcohol or GHB euphoria.

With 1mg of Bromazolam I didn't feel any euphoria. Nada. Zip. When I had some wine, I experienced normal alcohol buzz, but nothing like Etizolam plus alcohol.
With either 0.5 or 1mg of Bromazolam, I didn't feel sluggish the next day. When I used Etizolam after raving which typically would take 2.5-3mg, I would feel slugging, but that could have been also from serotonin depletion.

While Bromazolam will be useful in the future to kill something like 6-APB trip, I really hate that it takes so long to kick in.

 

[Pastel]

So....

I just managed to procure a little, just for now, more pure legit Bromazolam powder from Holland.


However, and obviously I counted on diff batch and synthesis likely subtle difference.

Including the shade, last yr was real pinky.

But damn I never expected pure white like Etizolam.

Less bitter on tongue too by a bit.

I'm confident it's Brom not Etiz.

Just the pure white version. Has different texture too, the pink was heavier more grainy, easier to scoop up, tip back etc, this white one can't tip or shake off measure spoon, and is like snow clinging all over so eyeballing it a v safe practice has tricked me out already, back of scoop plastered without me clocking while never happened with the pink.

I mean it's two distinct formulas for sure. And I'm sure both Brom too.



White I swear is superior. Like a different benzo.

Stronger and seems faster and more anxiolysis vs pink one. Resembles Etiz more.


I've heard people saying Bromazolam is their favourite benzo, I never understood this, it's the only pure legit uncut powder one I can get since the crooks stole Etiz away


But I get it now. IME pink Bromazolam is shit vs white. Hits harder faster more anxiolysis and nice feeling like Etiz, vs just coming on of effects with pink one.


Very surprised and pleased. You can certainly get very "barred out" with this white Bromazolam easily too, a few mg's more than need it's like hot water/cold water shower tap a bit.

I mean it's as useful maybe more to me this point as Etiz would be. Very pleasant stuff.

What amounts were you using?

 

[AutoTripper]

What amounts were you using?

Hi. Thanks 1st I did really appreciate your fully open well considered and intuited IMO retrospective sharing and gauge so far.

So much of which I concur/resonate with.

Especially say, Etiz then booze, wow what a euphoric antidepressant disinhibiting cloud 9 combo right?

Vs as you say, that bit kind of muted with Brom and drink on top.


Except I use good strong Kava never alcohol it's truly 1 or other anyway though but I'm too allergic to touch a drop of 26% ethanol even

Kava not allergic to is also on paper a (plant) "medicine" not unfortunately cos I'd have nothing against alcohol otherwise where it's inherent potential dark side is not kept in shadow, a "poison" by true definition.


Aside.... what you report fully resonates.


When I switched to Brom straight from Etiz 2.5 yrs ish ev day, I NEEDED the Kava to complete it.

Now Etiz a good dose alone, bit of weed maybe. I'd feel fuzzy euphoric interested comfortable relaxed, way less dependant on brain chemical boosting/regulating Kavalactones.




True too lol, after nice Etiz dose. Soon so easy let go mentally, if feel sleepy too easy enter really nice kip.

Often I'd awake too yes, soon. hr, 1.5, 2, 3 at most mostly (unless accidental overdoses to tune of 35 mg's atop 15 earlier in day say still only 6 hrs unconscious or sleep walking recalling zilch though!).. after dreaming off on Etiz but mostly quite refreshed.



Pro & Con I've always understood.


Like you say too yes. If the challenge set is keep sleeping through a night, Bromazolam can facilitate this ways Etiz not.



Much harder to use Bromazolam awaking any time though like Etiz

I'd use Etiz lol, often up to 10 mg's! To get up, lol.


Suddenly feeling really okay and lively!


But Bromazolam AND Kava for anxiety and "consciousness intolerance" can be a fight timing and balancing act.



One thing you said too. How a 10 mg Etiz dose mangled your memory for months.

V odd cos 10 mg's exactly pure legit Etiz was my favourite dose to really feel right for "a bit"

Oddly cognizant, functional. V v chilled but lifely.



Really no notice on memory but maybe my own brain is rare, I've an inbuilt virtual transgressional one since ever and literal inhuman ability at times to access any point of time or experience ever, and without blurring/fogging mis-joining together too.


So even taking just under 20 mg's daily, Etiz or Brom, with relatively heavy cannabis use anyway too, homemade edibles and vaporizing always, adding in way above average Kava drinkers daily Kava, which massively potentiates benzos in particular...


I never even think about my memory! I see now, like it's never becoming issue.

All things past and present remain super clear for me, not ALWAYS a swell thing lol

It's the f future damn concerns me, and every one of us!




But yes doses sorry.


Since early 2021 was 20-25 mg's Etiz day.

Varying, v v rarely under 19 even. About same Bromazolam 13 months now except I learned to keep under 20 mg's ideally 18, over 20 and tendency towards awaking too depressed no will to live.


18-20 and really not.

But this white one again different there. I've varied, I took 38 hours off Friday too by decision, food fasting 43 hours vitally, and big new virus invaded lungs needing proactive extinguishing


Some days surely over 20. But not same rock low next day like pink one.


Heavy benzo though. Hard not be wasted on it.

 

[AutoTripper]

@JackARoe. @Pastel hi

No biggie here cos real nice stoned, kava nice also and brom comfy



I know Jack knows this stuff

I could see instantly Pastel does also, where experienced simply.

And I know you each fully comprehend every point I've expressed on these 2.



So.....

Not ONLY for youz lol, but this is another v worth extolling contrast between Etiz past, and Bromazolam now.



In ways Etiz is way way more dangerous because if one takes v big dose Bromazolam, like 15 mg's upwards

25 especially


Well I don't see much, not any activity.


Suddenly we'll sleepy, compelled to just lie down comfy sleep enters soon.


No stirring sleep trotting etc.


Vs my experiences with Etiz. Dangerous not even the word.


Tripsitter like no psychedelic one needed ideally safe padded cell! lol.


Rather than knocking out staying there, in full sleep walking tripping black out mode without my mum around the few times, I'd have died in-directly

If not on stairs, trying to cook or gosh knows.


Etiz v high doses so dangerous that way.

Brom, I aim avoid but really no wandering even thinking til actually awake again.




Also, re taper, WD, longer half-life aside, thienos are about harshest to WD from I reas at least.

Just pointing out SOME pros of Bromazolam vs Etiz the benzo world felt such a loss, me incl!