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New RCs in the UK Ver. 4: Still disappointed?

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^ Don't be so sure!

The health problems resulting from mephedrone's cardiotoxicity (valve deterioration etc.) will not be noticed in users for many years to come.
You can't compare it's "safety" to cigarettes & alcohol when none of it's long term damage has been experienced by users yet. Give it another 20-30 years before commenting on the "safety" of mephedrone.

Fair point, I should have said 'it lacks acute toxicity' rather than extrapolated this to long-term safety.
 
Mephedrone ups the levels of serotonin as well as dopamine, so the one to watch out for is pulmonary hypertension, which caqn occur quite a bit afterwards; it's the reason the slimming drug fenfluramine was withdrawn and why methamphetamine fucks your heart. If you want more info, google 5HT2b receptors and it'll give you a full rundown
 
Mephedrone ups the levels of serotonin as well as dopamine, so the one to watch out for is pulmonary hypertension, which caqn occur quite a bit afterwards; it's the reason the slimming drug fenfluramine was withdrawn and why methamphetamine fucks your heart. If you want more info, google 5HT2b receptors and it'll give you a full rundown

many thanks, I will do further study (although rather like the GP who still drinks and smokes, I may not like the results)
 
It's great, actually page turning which for a non-fiction book is a rarity for me! You'll know all the pharmacology stuff already, but definitely worth it for the social history of amphetamines and the changing role they have played.
 
Yes he is... the book is very neutral though. It doesn't go into legalisation debates really, mainly science and history. Even goes so far to say that maybe methamphetamine isn't necessarily neurotoxic as is made out in low doses!
 
Vader's alive, well and Smodding away. There was a problem last night where a couple of accounts got deleted, among other weirdness.

The Engineers are working on it, but for now he's using the generic 'Smod' account.
 
Vader's alive, well and Smodding away. There was a problem last night where a couple of accounts got deleted, among other weirdness.

The Engineers are working on it, but for now he's using the generic 'Smod' account.

Ah, thanks. Cue paranoia... "OMG BL hacked" etc ;)

Sorry, back on topic!
 
PS what happened to Vader? Has he removed himself from BL?
No, we had some technical difficulties and a couple of staff accounts were temporarily demoted to guest status. It's all good now. Thanks for asking after me though, I didn't know you cared ;)
 
I see that Dimemebfe or 2-(5-methoxy-1-benzofuran-3-yl)ethyl]dimethylamine is being advertised as available. I can't find much on this here or elsewhere. Structurally it looks like it should be an empathogen with possible psychedelic effects, anyone have experience?
 
I've tried B2 a couple of times and it was pretty much 90% if mephedrone is 100%. Was probably not wise trying it when AFAIK there hasn't been any confirmed reports about what the chemical actually is, just speculation about some prophylhexedrine analogue or a cathinone. I wouldn't recommend it in the name of Harm Reduction, but it was a good experience.

I have to say I also really enjoyed the smoking blend HAZE and could see myself smoking it every now and again as a legal alternative to weed, I don't really want to be smoking weed. A big bonus from it is that the smoke seems to smell just of tobacco so doesn't cause too much suspicion at all, other than a non smoker smoking a rollup and coughing all the time, lol. Would definitely recommend it though for non weed smokers that like the feeling of getting stoned but don't want to do it daily or start smoking weed.
 
Would definitely recommend it though for non weed smokers that like the feeling of getting stoned but don't want to do it daily or start smoking weed.

If a non-weed smoker liked the feeling of getting stoned they should become weed smokers, not some fucking untried and tested chem that feels a bit like weeed...weed is one of the safest drugs there is.
 
Exactly. Daily weed smoking isn't exactly advisable (not that it stops me from doing it) but substituting it with the unknown?

Mugz, you're a puzzling man sometimes. :)
 
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