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New RCs in the UK Ver. 4: Still disappointed?

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^ "the crack of weed" is a good way to describe it.

Good for the odd blast but definately not something to smoke daily.
 
It is good stuff isn't is Acid4Blood, I did mention it earlier in the thread and was poopooed just as you were, but the mix of AM-694 & AM-2201 in the blend that I'm pretty sure you had that was the same as the one I smoked is potent but a nice smoke and a nice stoned feeling. Has always been a nice fun experience when I have smoked it.
 
It's the unknown that scares me.
I can get paranoid as fuck from Weed alone, nevermind some analogue. I doubt they'll have the Antipsychotic elements of CBD so I'd likely have another full-blown episode if not worse :\

The unknown of a lot of RCs is worrying.
 
Oh definitely, from an HR perspective weed is clearly much better, it has an impeccable safety record, and it's also much more pleasant to smoke. Having said that, my blend was SO cheap. I can also rationalise it as good HR, better to smoke a blend you made yourself than a commercial one, right? Known unknowns are better than unknown unknowns (channelling Rumsfeld, I know).
 
I am going to have to agree with you there monsta, it is worrying how unknown a lot of these RCs are. I am not sure of the conclusion to the thread as it was a long one in ADD that started to go over my head a bit, but there was a thread there that suggested that AM-694 could be potentially very dangerous, the rest of the thread could have ended up proving the initial thought wrong, am not sure, but just the fact that things like that are being debated and are really totally unknown is pretty scary.
 
Is it not possible to see if the chemical is likely to have dangers from its structure? I always assumed the whole RC big scare was mainly due to media, although there are some risks I can't see it being as serious it's made out to be. Although the ones I feel would be the riskiest would have to be the ones people are smoking often, no idea why. Has there been any odd side effects from any RCs that have gotten relatively popular? Mephedrone and going blue was a mad one, but that was only from persistent use.
 
Is it not possible to see if the chemical is likely to have dangers from its structure?
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To some extent, but if that was sufficient then new medicines wouldn't have to go through clinical trials that cost millions of pounds. Sometimes, a drug only produces an effect in every ten-thousandth person, or every millionth, and there's no way to see it coming. Look at ketamine- it's been around for decades as a clinically approved drug, it's really very safe when used therapeutically, but it's only now that the damage it can do to chronic abusers becomes apparent. At the end of the day, you take your life in your hands with RCs, and no-one should forget that. You ask if it's possible to deduce risk from structure, and I said "kind of", but that's true of people who have dedicated their lives to studying pharmacology. You and me? We don't know at all. We listen to the opinions of people who seem to know what they're talking about, we weigh up the risk as best we can, and we roll the dice.
 
monstanoodle said:
It's the unknown that scares me.
I can get paranoid as fuck from Weed alone, nevermind some analogue. I doubt they'll have the Antipsychotic elements of CBD so I'd likely have another full-blown episode if not worse :\

The unknown of a lot of RCs is worrying.
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It certainly feels like it has antipsychotic properties! Much less anxiety-inducing than normal weed IMO.
I've given tokes of this blend to several people. No freak-outs, just massive grins & lots of laughter. & this stuff is INTENSE!

I never had any interest in synthetic cannabinoids but I recently received a 3.5g free sample of this stuff & it really blew me away. It feels very psychedelic & empathetic. Also felt alot more composed than after smoking THC.
It should definately not be smoked with the same regularity as weed tho as potential problems may arise.
Its a wonderful feeling tho. I highly recommend trying it, even if you're not a weed smoker.

(its ok to name it here, yeah?.... no source talk!)

HAZE - AM-694 + AM-2201

Mugz said:
It is good stuff isn't is Acid4Blood
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It certainly is! :)
 
I mentioned it as HAZE earlier in the thread so that should be fine :)

Lucky bastard with your 3.5g sample, mine was not that much. I definitely agree that coming back down to baseline from it is much quicker and smoother than with cannabis, although has been a long time since I smoked the reefer 8)
 
So is this haze legal in the uk? I can't smoke weed because of paranoia, is this chem less like to induce paranoia?
 
I can't smoke weed due to the paranoia, and I was perfectly fine smoking the haze, don't put as much in as you would a joint though or it will be too intense, start small and you will find your sweet spot pretty soon. :)
 
Any compound structurally derived from 3-(1-Naphthoyl)indole or 1H-Indol-3-yl-(1-naphthyl)methane by substitution at the nitrogen atom of the indole ring by alkyl, alkenyl, cycloalkylmethyl, cycloalkylethyl or 2-(4-morpholinyl)ethyl, whether or not further substituted in the indole ring to any extent and whether or not substituted in the naphthyl ring to any extent.
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AM-2201 is derived from 3-(1-Naphthoyl)indole by substitution at the nitrogen atom with a haloalkyl chain (not covered) and AM-694 is not derived from 3-(1-Naphthoyl)indole or 1H-Indol-3-yl-(1-naphthyl)methane at all.
 
Vader said:
AM-2201 is derived from 3-(1-Naphthoyl)indole by substitution at the nitrogen atom with a haloalkyl chain (not covered) and AM-694 is not derived from 3-(1-Naphthoyl)indole or 1H-Indol-3-yl-(1-naphthyl)methane at all.
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Thanks for the info but we don't wanna make it too easy for them to "cover" life's little pleasures!
 
Acid4Blood said:
It certainly feels like it has antipsychotic properties! Much less anxiety-inducing than normal weed IMO.
I've given tokes of this blend to several people. No freak-outs, just massive grins & lots of laughter. & this stuff is INTENSE!

I never had any interest in synthetic cannabinoids but I recently received a 3.5g free sample of this stuff & it really blew me away. It feels very psychedelic & empathetic. Also felt alot more composed than after smoking THC.
It should definately not be smoked with the same regularity as weed tho as potential problems may arise.
Its a wonderful feeling tho. I highly recommend trying it, even if you're not a weed smoker.
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Mugz said:
I can't smoke weed due to the paranoia, and I was perfectly fine smoking the haze, don't put as much in as you would a joint though or it will be too intense, start small and you will find your sweet spot pretty soon. :)
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Oooh how intruiging! :)
I doubt I'll get a chance to try it, and I doubt even less that I'll go seeking it out, but purely hearing of the effects it gives is dead interesting.
 
Got to say I'm really interested in B2 - hard to understand that nobody seems to know the chemical makeup yet.
 
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