New opioid users thread a.k.a. I didn't feel anything!?

[nukka]

I got my wisdom teeth taken out and was given 20 percocet 5/325. The first time I took them I took 4, didn't really feel much. Yesterday I took six, and was pretty buzzed, felt dizzy, a little naseus, had to struggle to stay awake, had to put extreme effort into saying anything to my friends; but no effects that were really desirable to me and nothing affecting my thought proccess which was what I was hoping for. I have never taken really any drugs before so maybe it is just that I can not appreciate this high? Or am I not taking enough? What is a safe number to take with that much APAP in them, could I take the 10 I have left? Would drinking an energy drink or anything like that help?

Sounds like the effects of an opiate high but 30mg is a lot for someone with no tolerance, hence the nausea. Try smoking some weed with it, that really helps kick many drugs into gear for me including opiates. Are you generally an anxious person or depressed while sober? If you consider yourself happy and satisfied with your life you might not notice the euphoria and general sense of well-being that opiates can bring. One of my first time taking 4 percocet 5/325s I didn't notice much either but I eventually fell in love with opiates.

The high truly is an acquired taste, although some people certainly love it right off the bat. Its not something you should seek out per se though...

 

[Sentimental]

It took me more than once to feel, probably around 3-4 times...My brother has never gotten high off of opiates though, I feel bad for him...

 

[Mr Blonde]

If you consider yourself happy and satisfied with your life you might not notice the euphoria and general sense of well-being that opiates can bring

+1. People who turn to them for emotional support/comfort seem to be able to find what they're looking for more readily.

 

[phrygian777]

What is the danger in exceding 1000 mg in one dose? Is it likely that my doing it once could have caused any damage?

 

[Mr Blonde]

^ 1000mg of APAP?

Depends how much you took. I've heard of some people dosing up to 4000mg at once and being alright, but I wouldn't do that. Anything above that and you're getting into dangerous territory, especially if combining with alcohol.

If you only took around 1000-3000mg, you'll probably be fine. The liver is good at healing itself, so as long as you don't keep battering it things work themselves out. However, it's still a good idea to look up a CWE and learn how to do it; especially if you're a regular user, it'll save you frm damage in the long run.

Welcome to BL, by the way!

 

[MemphisX3]

some people do not get euphoria when they first take opiates. i am one of those people. i took opiates on about 20 occasions before i ever felt the euphoria. chances are, if you keep taking opiates, you will eventually experience the euphoria.

these threads are really starting to get to me.

so what you people are telling me is that you took some opiates (the correct amount) and by some random act of god knows what the fuck you didnt get high? are you not human? are you made of scarp metal and shoe boxes? YOU PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HIGH OF OPIATES FEELS LIKE its as simple as that. IF YOU DOSE RIGHT YOU WILL FELL THE AFFECTS no one had a natural tolerance to opiates. Opiates do not choose who they will get high its an inevitable fact that a nod and euphoria will accompany it. albeit the nod might not be pronounced as well as the euphoria.

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[Mr Blonde]

^ I personally haven't experienced it (my first time with codeine I barely remember, but I remember feeling relaxed and nice, but it was subtle), but I have heard from quite a few people that it took a few goes to 'get' the high; maybe it's like drinking coffee - it's an acquired taste.

 

[StayinAwake]

I would just try something else and move on. I agree. These addictions get ugly , fast.

 

[MemphisX3]

everyone is differend, i beleive it is possible to not get any euphoria from opiates as i experience the same thing


at first i tought that was going, but with further experimenting i found that high doses didnt even seem to work for social anxiety, while when taken with some ritalin they definatly did (ritalin totally changed the experience, from barely a high to a high that seems simular to whats described here)

i just don't know how to argue against this anymore. its science man, simple as that. opiate ingested, analogs go into receptors, unless you have some sort of disorder or on some sort of medication where your receptors are blocked. you may not feel "euphoria" when on opiates it may seem that you are more paranoid about the high than you are ready to enjoy it. for someone to say they ingested large amounts of opiates and felt nothing is just asinine and ludacris.

 

[LightTrailz]

Its ok memphis dont worry buddy ... some people just expect an in your face high thats going to floor them , just the same as any other "illegal" drug .. im telling you its all that bullshit about how oxy is just like heroin talk that makes people think your just gonna fall flat on your face ..

theres nothing we can do about some people just have to learn the hardway .

 

[THiNG_1]

everything worked out well, loved the percs as usual. i'm getting a regular oxy 80 tonight though, so no apap yay!

 

[phrygian777]

Through a cold water extraction of percocets, should I expect to be losing much oxycodone? Also, once you have relatively pure oxycodone what is dosage reccomendations? What is a safe limit? I'm guessing it is pretty high if people are chewing 160mg oxycontins..

I'm guessing opiates just aren't for me since I didn't enjoy 30mg, but for those who seek this experience what are the charactersistics of it that you enjoy and look forward to? I was thinking it would mess with my mind more and it seems to me to be more of a body downer sort of thing?

 

[MeDieViL]

Its ok memphis dont worry buddy ... some people just expect an in your face high thats going to floor them , just the same as any other "illegal" drug .. im telling you its all that bullshit about how oxy is just like heroin talk that makes people think your just gonna fall flat on your face ..

theres nothing we can do about some people just have to learn the hardway .

thats not true, i dont expect any in your face high at all! i expected something subtil that makes me euphoric and kills my anxiety (and with ritalin it does just that, without it it does nothing)

its science man, simple as that.

i remember reading about some studie where they tested opiates for depression, well the succes rate was 70%, that extremely high for an antidepressant, but it aint 100%, just because they make someone euphoric doesnt mean it will for everyone

not all our brains are identical, not everyone can react to the same thing, as i said before i didnt expact an in your face high, but to do some further testing i took some 80mg and tested if it would work for social anxiety
and well, it just didnt...

ans yeah i got a few disorders: bypolar, social anxiety, ocd and opiates are reported to work for all of those, so the theory of something bad with my opiate receptors could very well be possible

for everyone not feeling opiates, try adding in some stimulant, when i add in ritalin i go from nothing to a "high" i dont know why it happends, maybe i'm too low on dopamine to feel opiates and ritalin fixes that

 

[antbanks99]

I am confused.

I took 40mg first off of hydrocodone in the form of "watson" 5/500 hydro/apap along with a few 10/325. I felt it for a little bit but it wore off quite quickly. I then took another 30mg over the course of about 3 hours.

I barely have any effects. I feel slightly light headed with a bit of dizziness here and then, slight euphoria, but other than that I'd say I'm sober. WTF? This has happened to me more than once with taking opiates. They all seem to barely affect me.

Do I have a natural tolerance? Or what?

PS I know these pills are real. No question about that. I also know I took a whole lot of Tylenol; I am fully aware that it was a bit much.

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My first question is: What is your weight? My first statement is: Good. Now you won't have to deal with addiction and withdrawal Just take them for pain when you need them if you can't get high off of them. Personally I can get high off of them so I do abuse them "occasionally."

 

[DoOrDie]

You didn't miss the shot?

You say you have an extremely high tolerance care to give us an idea?

My tolerance is at about 1000 mg of oxycodone a day... whether its 10-12 80 mg OC's mixed with a couple 30 MG roxi's... And No, ive missed a shot before and could tell by the burning and bruising and bubble of liquid under my skin (that went away)... well I recently tried 24 mg of Dilaudid, and registered, did everything accordingly.. and still felt nothing... I just wanted to feel that rush ONE single time... but I give up... out of the 10x ive tried i was left with a couple huge bruises (on biceps) the size of a baseball.. blah, i think i missed there, not sure.. but the crook of my arm where i did the 24mg worked well, but it left me with a red mark on the crook of my arm which is to noticable for the people im around, and I CANT have things getting out.. so I give up...

 

[nukka]

My tolerance is at about 1000 mg of oxycodone a day... whether its 10-12 80 mg OC's mixed with a couple 30 MG roxi's... And No, ive missed a shot before and could tell by the burning and bruising and bubble of liquid under my skin (that went away)... well I recently tried 24 mg of Dilaudid, and registered, did everything accordingly.. and still felt nothing... I just wanted to feel that rush ONE single time... but I give up... out of the 10x ive tried i was left with a couple huge bruises (on biceps) the size of a baseball.. blah, i think i missed there, not sure.. but the crook of my arm where i did the 24mg worked well, but it left me with a red mark on the crook of my arm which is to noticable for the people im around, and I CANT have things getting out.. so I give up...

It takes 1,000 mg of oxycodone to get your high... ok first off WOW. I've heard of some monster tolerances but that takes the cake. And you IV... how do you even fit all that into a syringe?

Second off, 24mg is Dilaudid is a lot to IV, indeed. Even some of the most opioid tolerant people would expect to either get high or die from that dose. For you however, no its not even going to touch your tolerance.

Its hard to compare the two substances but 24mg of hydromorphone is equivalent to maybe ~200mg of oxycodone.

Basically you have no hope of getting high off dilaudid or any other opiate for that matter. Your tolerance is insane. Forget about getting high its not going to happen.

 

[DoOrDie]

It takes 1,000 mg of oxycodone to get your high... ok first off WOW. I've heard of some monster tolerances but that takes the cake. And you IV... how do you even fit all that into a syringe?

Second off, 24mg is Dilaudid is a lot to IV, indeed. Even some of the most opioid tolerant people would expect to either get high or die from that dose. For you however, no its not even going to touch your tolerance.

Its hard to compare the two substances but 24mg of hydromorphone is equivalent to maybe ~200mg of oxycodone.

Basically you have no hope of getting high off dilaudid or any other opiate for that matter. Your tolerance is insane. Forget about getting high its not going to happen.

Thanks for the input.. You gave me what I needed to hear to give up trying to get that rush... I used to get some sort of rush when I first started taking opiates.. Oh yeah, I usually crush them up and blow them.. Never tried IV'ing them.. Thats why when I got the Dilaudid, (im supposed to take 48mg a day) I wanted to give IV'ing a try, but it was pointless marking up my body, but I guess chasing that rush is pointless..

 

[nukka]

Thanks for the input.. You gave me what I needed to hear to give up trying to get that rush... I used to get some sort of rush when I first started taking opiates.. Oh yeah, I usually crush them up and blow them.. Never tried IV'ing them.. Thats why when I got the Dilaudid, (im supposed to take 48mg a day) I wanted to give IV'ing a try, but it was pointless marking up my body, but I guess chasing that rush is pointless..

I didn't mean to be so harsh but geez man you need to start tapering down on something to have hopes of eventually quitting completely. You will need to see a doctor about this, not just any doctor - some sort of specialist. With that tolerance it is pointless, even if you can get high its going to be such a high dose and cost you such much money... why bother at this point. I'm glad you realize that it seems!

 

[DoOrDie]

I've already been to Rehab.... the problem is that im prescribed 190 OC's 80's a month and used to be 150 roxi 30's... and would always finish them early... but now he switched me from Roxi to dilaudid which i hate..

 

[gregg]

I prefer the hydro buzz to oxy, but I stopped hydro because it lasted only 5 minutes, oxy isnt much better, you can try taking less and mixing with xanax or something, but its better you stay away if you chase opiate rush, eventually it catches up 2 u