New JWH Urine TesT!!!, detect time really 72hrs??? PLEASE HELP!!

[AliceD420]

Good luck, Cody. Hopefully your method will work. Have you been smoking JWH-018 for sure or some sort of smoking blend? Always a possibility it didn't contain 018 or 073....

 

[Psyke]

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[naginnudej]

everything i have read says it is water soluble. Source?

No source for you atm but most JWH compounds have piss poor water solubility. Insoluble wouldn't be the right term but it's not far off the mark.

 

[cody2kz28]

Hey alice I was smoked a gram of space yellow not for sure what blend it has in it I'm trying to find a source but can't to tell what it has in it. That was the first gram I smoked in months it was a pre made blend from a online retailer so as long as I'm burning fat I hope I'm going to expell it I'm not 100% sure they will test for jwh but my guess is yes seeing I failed 4 uas for canibis.

 

[Basic Base]

Has anyone personally, or known anyone, to have passed this synthetic lab test on or around the 72 hr mark?
Also, anyone have any info or first hand experiences with this new saliva testing. What Redwood says is that its has a 24-48hr window of detection for the 018, 073, and 250. The process is a collection of fluid that is then sent away, not an instant result swab like there is for most narcotics.

 

[killermunchies]

For weed, I know saliva tests have a much shorter detection window than urine tests. I don't know about JWH for sure but I would assume it would also have a shorter detection window, although I wouldn't be surprised if you could still test positive 49 hours out. Also, if you are on probation or something, they might not be able to pull that on you depending on your agreement. I know that my agreement only mentions urine tests.

 

[headtronz]

I know that at the place I do my UA's I am the only person doing the spice test. So I don't know of anyone else even taking them. My PO was a total bitch, she ended up getting fired from so many people complaining. She was giving me the test because I own a hydroponics store and she didn't like that. She said if I worked there and didn't own it she would have made me get a different job.

 

[cody2kz28]

Hey headtronz were you smoking daily and if so dosage and how long was it a blend or pure I'm still stressing I only smoked a gram of blend and have been working out burning 4-500 cals a day I'm giving myself a test on the 28 I'm hoping ill pass even talked to my riend who is a doc he thinks I should be ok but we shall see what was your experoence timeline

 

[headtronz]

I smoked pure 018 and 073 for over a month. Don't worry you will be fine. I was using heavily and had built up quite the tolerance.

 

[neMMMM]

so whats safe and whats not? i'm still waiting to be put on probation and dont want to take any chances. Just returned my 4 grams of jwh-018, so thats out of the question.

is jwh-250 safe?

whats everyones opinion on the rc closest to mj thats still safe from testing...??

so confused, sorry!

 

[Cid Jester]

I saw that they had a new test for this when I went to my probation appointment this month. I found it kinda funny. Even funnier was that they had a sticker that read "Changing the world one bottle at a time." That upset me because I know im my heart they believe they are helping people by putting them in jail for drug issues.

 

[killermunchies]

so whats safe and whats not? i'm still waiting to be put on probation and dont want to take any chances. Just returned my 4 grams of jwh-018, so thats out of the question.

is jwh-250 safe?

whats everyones opinion on the rc closest to mj thats still safe from testing...??

so confused, sorry!

Nothing is guaranteed to be safe, as labs come out with new tests all the time. Right now, redwood can test for 018 and 073 in urine, and 018, 073, and 250 in salvia. 250 can be urine tested for by a small lab called Norchem, but most places seem to use the Redwood test if they use any at all. There are many other JWH's out there, but many share a very similar chemical structure to 018. While they might not be specifically tested for, they may have some identical metabolites, and cause a false positive. No one here knows for sure. Also, since 018 and 073 are now controlled substances, some of the other ones could be deemed analogues.

I personally use 250 because it isn't illegal and is chemically more different from 018 than most of the other commonly available ones. Also, my contract only prohibits controlled substances, and 250 is uncontrolled. While it is theoretically possible to be tested for, it probably won't be, and definitely won't be mistaken for anything else. The next one on my list to try is RCS-8, aka SR-18. It is structurally similar to 250 and is currently impossible to test for. From what I've read, it requires twice the dose, but lasts twice as long. If this is the case, I'd take that any day. 250 is nice, but lasts like 45-60 minutes.

 

[itsjuggalo]

im in Florida and a place called PAR is beginning to test for jwh, but i gotta few questions
is the metabolism for jwh different by weight, age, gender etc? and if it tests for the metabolites then is there things you can consume that speed this process up? idk if its allowed, but does anyone have a link to download this? http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/dta.158/abstract ?
i get tested every tuesday so if i smoked 18,19,73 or 250 wednesday and drank loads and loads of water until the next tuesday would i be straight? or is it true its fat soluble? cuz i only dip like 2 cigs of 18 or whatever and im straight as fuckkkk. by them making things more illegal its just gonna make people that are desperate to put even worse things into their bodies. idk bout yall but i just cant play it safe, just like the rest of us, we have to hit rock bottom to change our ways, but if its jail time, thats mind changing, but i want to do good but be sneaky. yall feel me? its bad enough that people would smoke spice just to get high off the 18, and i dont believe that they will stop testing in months just because its been cut off, it will be like xtc maybe and people will try and make it in their houses, cuz ya never know, people will do what they have to do, but drug tests are a bitch and always keep anxiety, before, during and after until results are shown to either fuck you over or you can jump up and down (after you leave the testing facility) because you didnt get fucked over by people that say they dont want to deliberatly lock you up, but will call your PO and notify them of your intolerance to a shitty total sober life, idk bout yall but i like to keep it real and obviously i dont want to follow the saying "if you cant beat em, join em" cuz thats just not my path, but i dont want to make things worse for myself, and all of this talk about AM-694 with fluorine isnt good either, its bad enough people have such light tolerances to go to the hospital just over spice, and ive been extremely sick off of like a .5g bowl pack of 18 that i wanted to go to the hospital, but i didnt, and i felt fine the next morning. but i just want to have peace of mind without having the anxiety that will go with it just because i make my choices based on things that were alright a few months ago before it became tested for and now i have to worry like a bitch cuz ill be threatened with jail time. new technology is nice, but when it threatens the community with people who choose their ways to spend their "freedom" but its just not fair cuz they still try to control everything in your lives, like attending meetings to Community Service and still cant toke at night just because you know that if you do your life will just become worse even though you can create good karma for yourself by doing these good deeds. im disgusted with America these days, i mean, idk how much better Europe, Amsterdam and all of those places are, but i dont think they could be any worse than here. FEEDBACK?

 

[cody2kz28]

Hey headtronz just wandering were you clean at week 3 or 4 still worried a bit and deciding if I should push my meeting back a week would a dialution method work in the same case as thc also if you don't mind me asking height weight activity level

 

[neMMMM]

cant really find much about the legal status of jwh-250. Is it still legal in all state?

 

[AliceD420]

heard that some more people in my area tested positive for synthetic marijuana... now I don't know this for sure but I can assume they were smoking the newer "legal" blends. They send them to Redwood so I'm not sure if this means that Redwood's test can pick up other JWH chemicals, they are testing for more than just 018 and 073, or these people were smoking the older blends. Just thought I'd give an update from my end.

Personally, I'm not too worried since it's been 7 weeks since I used it, really 9 because 7 weeks ago I took 1 bottom of the bowl hit. I will continue to update if I learn anything new though.

 

[TimArmson]

Definitely interested in whether or not this newer blend can still be picked up on these tests or not. Waiting for someone to know some real experience before trusting that everything will be fine. I will keep my ears open myself.

 

[xil]

anybody know how similar jwh-122 is to others? I am in outpatient rehab (stupid court ordered bullshit) and i'm wondering if it could produce false positives for jwh-018/other illegal ones or is it safe like 250 appears to be.

i know its legal but this is a zero tolerance no mind alteration allowed type of place, and if i fail its in patient rehab
i wish i could ask them if they test for it but that would arouse too much suspicion.

i guess for now i'll just be drinking on saturdays (my tests are on fridays) because supposedly its outta your system by that time.

 

[headtronz]

Just an update. I was clean sometime in between week 3 and 4. As soon as I started drinking a ton of water I was clean soon after. I have been smoking the 250 intermittently and have not tested positive. I only smoke it after my weekly UA and stop usually by Sat. as my next test will be Mon. at the earliest. They just put me on 1 monthly UA so should be in the clear from now on. Anyone know about this new E-4? I got a free sample and it works great, but no pic of what the molecule looks like so not sure if I want to push it.

 

[Enix150]

ZX-1 is naphthylpyrovalerone. (Naphyrone/ "NRG-1")

Where did you find that? I contacted the company (or one of the companies?) selling ZX-1 and they had told me it was 3-FMC. Although I guess this is about as far from a reliable source as I could imagine. Why must these companies shroud the world of RC's in a cloak of proprietary secrecy?
EDIT: ZX-1 is MDPV now? lol... or maybe it always was.

Anyone know about this new E-4? I got a free sample and it works great, but no pic of what the molecule looks like so not sure if I want to push it.

I've been contacting the same company about 5C, E-4, and E-6, but they won't budge on those ones. Though I believe E-4 to be short for Eric-4, which should be the same as NRG-4. The same might be said for E-6, Eric-6, and NRG-6, but still no actual chemical structures... moar research is needed!
EDIT: I'm thinking it's a safe bet that E-4 is RCS-4 aka SR-19...which probably leaves E-6 to be RCS-8 aka SR-18? In the process of acquiring samples for testing.

what in sam hell is JWH-5C ?

I've been trying to find this out for weeks now... I'm wondering if it could be decalin-JWH? Then again, maybe I'm just trying to tie up too many loose ends.
EDIT: 5C in possession. Just trying to find a place to test it..