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I'm lucky enough to never suffer from hangovers... Guess its all down to practice really ;)

Lucky you, fuckinelkfire I can't handle the day after the night before at all. And I've had tons of practice. That's a thread of its own though, how hangovers/comedowns get worse with age.
 
Lucky you, fuckinelkfire I can't handle the day after the night before at all. And I've had tons of practice. That's a thread of its own though, how hangovers/comedowns get worse with age.

Funnily enough mate, I find that the older I get, the less I suffer from after effects... Speed: no problem. MDMA: no problem. Booze: no problem. 3fpm: er, the jury's still out on that one.
 
I'm definitely in the older you get, worse the day(s) after! I never used to get hangovers and comedowns were dealt with by a day of lying around watching shite. These days I need the whole week to recover!
 
Good hr there. I always use ghb/GBL. Its bad news drinking on stims, you don't feel the 12 doubles at the time but you certainly feel the hangover.
- Drink like a fish as stim is overpowering sedative.
- Stim wears off, realise you're absolutely fucked.
- Vomit/pass out.
- Wake up with hangover from Hell.

No matter how many times, some people never learn!
(Zero hypocrisy there... 8( )
 
I would advise food and drink, it is possible to eat in stims even though you think it isnt, I rarely skip meals on speed / meth I can just force it down and feel better for it. Fluids are more difficult so tend to drink a whole drink at once at intervals, consciously doing so as I know I wont do so unless I make a point of it.

I feel tried on the other side of a run but rarely ill, tiredness seems a reasonable payback and for someone who sleeps badly it isnt all bad.

Not eating of drinking much for 3 days would wreck you by itself, Complan is a decent option if you can't face anything else
 
Ugh, the residual stimulation is certainly quite terrible. Had my last dose at 10pm, put the rest away (which was difficult to an unwelcome degree), and attempted to ease myself into sleep with a cold beer and some Alprazolam at about 11:30 - ended up wide awake and posting on BL for most of the night. Was supposed to be up at 5am, though I set my alarm back an hour in the hope of getting some rest. Fell to sleep at 5:30am and slept right through my alarm until 9:30am!
 
I would advise food and drink, it is possible to eat in stims even though you think it isnt, I rarely skip meals on speed / meth I can just force it down and feel better for it. Fluids are more difficult so tend to drink a whole drink at once at intervals, consciously doing so as I know I wont do so unless I make a point of it.

I feel tried on the other side of a run but rarely ill, tiredness seems a reasonable payback and for someone who sleeps badly it isnt all bad.

Not eating of drinking much for 3 days would wreck you by itself, Complan is a decent option if you can't face anything else

Its easy to just forget about eating when you are using strong stimulants, its easy to not realise you started on Monday and its now Wednesday iykwim.
 
WIN 25,978 / AFA any one had this in here ?

In studies it proved to be a potent and highly selective dopamine reuptake inhibitor (DRI) in rat brain preparations.[2][3] A study found a moderately long half-life of approximately 12 hours and a dopaminergic potency approximately 50 fold that of methylphenidate in rat brain preparations.[4] Despite lack of direct serotonin activity, rats treated with subchronic doses of amfonelic acid display subsequent decreases in 5HT and 5HIAA.[5] Amfonelic acid displays no activity in the norepinephrine system.[6]

Despite a greatly different mechanism of action, amfonelic acid displays discriminatory substitution with 150% the stimulant potency of dextroamphetamine.[7]

Amfonelic acid has been shown to be neuroprotective against methamphetamine damage to dopamine neurons.[8] It also increases the effects of the antipsychotic drugs haloperidol, trifluoperazine and spiperone.[9]

Rats are shown to self-administer amfonelic acid in a dose-dependent manner, thus it may have recreational abuse potential in humans.[10]
 
Yup. Mentioned it a few pages back. Utter dud. As far as I could tell it is inactive as far as stimulant effects go. Given it clearly is psychoactive despite feeling for all the world that it isn't - and that is is also apparently an antibiotic of unknown potency - I'd avoid completely.
 
Did you send it to WEDINOS or anything shambles? I'm slightly surprised to hear that but then it has been available here and there and it's so good on paper but never gets any buzz around it.
 
its easy to start on monday and then click its the next monday

Thanks foolsgold, I feel much better now about missing a few days once in a while..
Good to know there are new levels of time bending yet to be mastered.;)
 
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I won't mention names, given it nearly got me banned last time, but the UK vendor with a solid track record of selling contaminated and toxic products has struck again.

Low and behold: WEDINOS samples W003462 and W003461 - purchased as 3-FPM solely.
3-FPM, Lidocaine and Isopropylphenidate.

(Yes, I have posted this in various places, but some of the reports of toxicity attributed to 3-FPM could be explained by this and I'd like people to be aware that contaminated products exist).
 
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Recently bought some 3-FPM & Methoxypiperamide. Snorted a fairly huge line of 3-FPM which hurt like hell and after the initial euphoria felt a bit disappointing. Should I wait till it's totally out of my system or is it OK to mix with the Methoxy' and and views on best route & dose. Cheers guys.
 
Whatever happened to the 2c family of chemicals? I remember 2c-e being particularly fun. I'd rate it in my top 3 life experiences. It was as colourful as a decent acid trip with the smooth pulsing euphoria of MDA and "computer graphic" DMT-esque visuals

I had a look on *the naughtyweb* but no 2c-e to be found :'( would love to meet that chemical again one day!

Some of the newer rc's are nasty shit guys, you're BRAVE taking them!
 
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I, too, would love to get some again. I only tried 2c-b, 2c-i, ad 2c-t-21. I would have really liked to try a few more of them.

In Spade's absence, I would like to say just how perfect 2c-b felt :D
 
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