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New (and less new) RCs - Alphabet Soup

Benzo dependence must suck. :( the rc market is so full of alternatives i imagine it's complicated even keeping track of all the zepams and zolams....

I wish there would be something to get excited... kratom alternatives would be interesting :p
 
synthacaine rocks


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wondering if this will be anything like crack ?
 
Last I heard was a decent dimethocaine synth. Supposedly early powder dimethocaine (that was actually labelled as that) was poorly synthed so got a bad rep hence the name change. All hearsay though so who knows?

In all honesty though, if they had a product that was a fraction of the crack hit they'd be selling it hand over fist rather than barely able to shift it at all. Look at actual crack - more benzocaine than cocaine for a long time but still sells at a tenner a pop all day and night.
 
Never tried vaping MXE but ketamine itself is like trying to smoke rusty cheesegraters :! EPH rocks were moderately less bad but still foul-tasting and ruined my lungs from a single toke. The effects would have to be incredible for me to try that again.

Not seen much on 3F-Phenmetrazine but snippets I have went from very high expectations (cos phenmetrazine itself has a great rep but is uber-rare) to more like a 5-IAI-style disappointment - looks great on paper but somewhere between inactive and meh in practice. These were all very early reports and scanty at that, mind. I still have hopes but waiting on more info myself.
 
Shambles said:
Last I heard was a decent dimethocaine synth. Supposedly early powder dimethocaine (that was actually labelled as that) was poorly synthed so got a bad rep hence the name change. All hearsay though so who knows?

In all honesty though, if they had a product that was a fraction of the crack hit they'd be selling it hand over fist rather than barely able to shift it at all. Look at actual crack - more benzocaine than cocaine for a long time but still sells at a tenner a pop all day and night.
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Synthacaine isn't a chemical, it's a branded mix of stims cut with a numbing agent, usually contains some MPA + benzocaine + whatever else is cheap. The mix varies between vendors & different batches from the same vendor.

It's always shit, it's cut with benzocaine & you don't know what it is or what doses you're taking.
 
Literally just had some 3F-Phenmetrazine delivered to my desk at work as I was reading this thread... May try it tonight, if not definitely Sunday. Will report back...
 
Very curious about that one. Got a feeling its not too great seeing as there are still few reports a couple of months after launch...
 
Hmmm, interesting one this. First of all, jimminy jillickers it stings! Not repulsively unbearable, but it will take three visits to polish off one 50mg line.

I'm two Old Fashions and a glass of wine in and have done two lines. Heart rate increase, slight throbbing of the head that I get from things like MPA. It seems to have the chilledness of cocaine - certainly not as jittery as EPH. But as for the benefits - slight mental high, but no real "hit" to mention.

I'm on my own so don't know what effect chatting to others would have, but I haven't been off my phone since taking it. Can't seem to feel much dopamine action if I'm honest. Feels a little bit of a let down although I'm probably not in the best testing environment. It's subtle, but I'm not a fan of subtle. That said, I'm not a massive fan of coke.

Worth a shot I'd say - could well tickle some pickles, but ask me again in a few lines' time...
 
Tough to say how long it lasts as I felt I was chasing a high and kept going for more every 45 mins. Has built up to what I'd consider a satisfactory high after 3x50mg lines. Just bumped into a few clients in this restaurant and chatted fine to them - was on point so I think it is quite functional. As functional as EPH but not quite as focused as MPA. But I do like this lack of jitteriness... Will have to see what the comedown is like before passing judgement.
 
That 'MDAI Indian' I ordered wasn't MDAI at all, it was lab tested to be a mix of MPA & PEA, lying thieving RC dealer scum. Be careful who you order from.
 
Look's like they're suggesting moving over to an american style system for bans, but a bit more scientific:

In anticipation of such developments, the ACMD favours development of an alternative approach of defining the control of novel synthetic
cannabinoids by their common mechanism of action as activators of the CB1 receptor in the brain, which can readily be measured by a simple biochemical test.

Shame that chocolate will be banned alongside all the cannabinoids if they follow it to the letter. 8(
 
I suppose it's technically an RC so... I recently OD'd on 4-Acetyl-Loperamide.
I was found lying in the street, unresponsive by a passer-by who phoned an ambulance.
I have wrote on 4-AL on this forum before, stating its obscene duration of action - first alerts are felt at 2-4 hours and build until... I don't even know, but I was out cold at T+24h.
In my system I also had approx. 1mg Diclazepam (Daily), 40mg 4-AL.
I could feel the overpowering nod around T+18 whilst on a bus. My last memory is of leaving the bus station and preparing to walk the rest of the journey home. I was found a few streets away either in the roadway or on the pavement (this was never made clear).

I awoke in hospital dazed, in WD to the extent that only a Narcan injection can bring forth, roughly 14 hours after I hit the ground (I was apparently placed under sedation and observed. It was treated as a suicide attempt (it wasn't) and I was later discharged after I made clear I had no suicidal intentions, nor ideation, and that I was in no pain (either I had been given analgesia in hospital whilst unconscious or 4-AL/a metabolite was providing such, as for the next few hours I had rather extensive pain in my right knee, right shoulder, right elbow, my neck and a cracking headache) and now, 24 hours later: I feel shaken, cold and generally sick, but well enough to post this.


In the past, I had used 4-AL with great success, at much higher doses, but in my stupidity I forgot to account for my massive drop in tolerance since then, and I doubt the benzo helped either.
All in all, my own stupidity is to blame.

EDIT: my notes show my dosage to be incorrect, this has been altered.
 
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