New (and less new) RCs - Alphabet Soup

[Nicklazz]

Is it more worse than snort 4-fa?

 

[ColtDan]

Not quite but more chesty, its like sniffing brick dust or some shit

 

[amanitadine]

True story...I haven't ever tried the APB's. I had unlimited access to high quality MDMA/MDA in my previous career ()...I was wise and have done each no more than twenty times over twenty years. Seriously!

So, I stashed some, for special occasions. Its been several years. I have watched the APB's/APDB's etc curiously the past 4 years...for those that have taken high quality crystalline MDMA and MDA, how do the APBs compare? Are they worth exploring? Different enough to merit such? Better/worse? Just curious. It's been some time since I've had an empathogen session...and am thinking of such. Normally I'd do a mix of MDMA and MDA, and likely will, but if the APBs offer something else I'm interested....

Oh and aMT is great stuff! Always enjoyed ol' IT-290. you guys are lucky it is (remarkably) still legal over there! It's an easy synth, but that's done and gone....don't reckon I have any left in the stash box. I have aET but aMT if far more interesting..(and less dangerous)...might have to order some.....can't see any immediate need to take some, but it is always nice to have the option!

 

[Vurtual]

^ I'd say it's somewhere between MDMA and MDA (though haven't had mda much to compare). I preferred 6-apb to mdma because the duration was much better (6-8 hrs for me), and it's a bit more energetic and a touch more trippy (not near mda levels though) - plus much cheaper in the end - to me it felt more like the pills from the 90s than the mdma around the last decade. (i don't know if that's cos the slightly differrent molecule gave a slight tolerance/"magic" reset)

On the downsides, maybe a bit less empathy; single doses had minimal comedowns, though extended sessions can have worse serotonin after effects than mdma. Also on paper it may be more taxing on the heart than mdma (high affinity for the 2b serotonin receptor, though not bad unless with very heavy use as far as i can make out (comparing to fenfluramine use)).

 

[ColtDan]

^ pretty much this

 

[The_Phantasm]

Fuck 6xyz or whatever. I just take MDA.

 

[black53]

6 and 5 apb are best mixed together imo
75mg each or something there. Much better than either on it's own.

Imo.

 

[ColtDan]

tried 5-MAPB, wicked stuff, 6-APB. weird sounding names used to put me off but researched into em

 

[kingme]

its strange and funny to see people put off taking a drug because of its chemical sounding name... i mean would you prefer it had some funky name? like nexus or whatnot?

speaking of weird sounding chems, tried lsz comboed with DOC the other night. absolutely hilariously visualy delightful combo. a bit tiring for sure

 

[black53]

tried 5-MAPB, wicked stuff, 6-APB. weird sounding names used to put me off but researched into em

It was also called benzofury (because it's a benzofuran not because of any relation with benzos), how's that for weird?

 

[ColtDan]

Yeah i remember, tis weird. whoever named it benzofury needs a slap

 

[kingme]

As if meow meow is much more appealing hehe

 

[ColtDan]

Awful name as well, when it came out in the papers as being called meow meow i thought fucking hell.... people actually call it that? Infact ill never stop hating that name for it

 

[black53]

alladin for al-lad is kinda nice, at least to me.. how about you guys?

 

[kingme]

i dont care much for names to be honest. i prefer the precision of chemical names or conventions...

 

[black53]

At least the last one isn't stupid

But vendors selling branded crap without specifying the chemicals/doses in it? That really pisses me off.

 

[yoyo50]

Woof Woof

 

[Shambles]

I remember i did 400mg of 5-apb 300mgin once dose then followed with that amt, and that was after eating gram of m1, i was sick for 3-4 days after couldn't eat or anything

Traditional HR message: DON'T mix aMT with other serotonergic drugs cos aMT is an MAOi. Fast track to Serotonin Syndrome - which is one of the least pleasant ways to go I can think of. Even with hospital treatment the survival rate is ~25% from memory and if you get away with brain damage instead of death you count yourself lucky. Obviously it doesn't happen in all cases cos aMT is a relatively mild MAOi, however, it's BIG fukkin risk to be taking cos if you're the unlucky one who pushes it that wee bit too far there is almost no chance of coming out of it much better than a vegetable.

about the splitting up of the thread, most RCs get their own thread after a while, which have way more info than the general chitchat here... as far as im concerned this place is nore news and social chat oriented than anything else...

This is what EADD mods have agreed on: keep it as it is. There are many reasons for this. This is a thread for general RC chit-chat. as you say, if one becomes especially popular it gets its own thread eventually.

Did 5-meo-amt ever hit the onlice rc scene? has anyone tried it?

You mean powdered diarrhoea + shitty trip + comedown from hell? Yeah it's been around for years but for some obscure reason never gets ordered twice

So, I stashed some, for special occasions. Its been several years. I have watched the APB's/APDB's etc curiously the past 4 years...for those that have taken high quality crystalline MDMA and MDA, how do the APBs compare? Are they worth exploring? Different enough to merit such? Better/worse? Just curious. It's been some time since I've had an empathogen session...and am thinking of such. Normally I'd do a mix of MDMA and MDA, and likely will, but if the APBs offer something else I'm interested....

I think the comparisons with MDMA/MDA are a tad overstated. They are somewhat similar but both are very different drugs compared to each other let alone with their more (in)famous cousins. Both are well worth it as drugs in their own right though, I'd say. You may need at add a straight stim if you object to the mongy/dozy end of the entactogen spectrum.

 

[Chatative]

Decided to fall back on some rather less sinister RCs, having tried 2-MeO-Diphenidine & having done a couple of sessions of Meph...

Got some aMT on the way, which I'm excited about being as I haven't taken any in years... will probably be going with a dose of 45mg on Friday. I had to find a new supplier as the one I've used for years has stopped selling it. They appear trustworthy but I'll just have to wait & see.

It seems to me that the aMT craze never took off... it seemed to be following on the back of the 'benzofury' craze, with all those suppliers trying to sell it as the next amazing RC. I'm perfectly happy with aMT flying under the radar as much as possible though... when I first got some, it took me a lot of hard work to find even a single online vendor in the UK. I think that was back in the Summer of '69, I mean '10

Also decided to stock up on some Etizolam.

I tried it a while ago for helping me sleep at the end of trips which it seemed to do to some extent, although I think I probably wasn't using enough. I might also be interested in the occasional use of it to help with anxiety as & when things build up but I will have to look into that. I'll go & look for information elsewhere on Bluelight but if anyone has any pointers as to dosage for either sleep or anxiety, I'd be interested to hear.

 

[ColtDan]

A lot of people love AMT but nah never properly took off, would go 50mg minimum if i was you. might have another go myself soon

Occasional use of etiz for anxiety would be alright but dont abuse it, the rebound is harsh. 0.5mg for anti anxiety, 1mg used to properly relax me but id feel tired within a few hours and end up monging out, not very functional. got more tolerance now