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New (and less new) RCs - Alphabet Soup

been head said:
I got a new batch of 4-FA today which seems to be a lot better than the last one. This stuff is pure white and the last was a slight tan colour. It's just as nasty to snort though. Value for money I would say 4-FA has to be one of the best things out there at the moment.
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Good aint it, white is much better than the tan. yep very nasty to snort and ruins your nose after awhile
 
>I always feel a bit mean correcting folk who speak English as a second language - it's not like I managed to retain any languages from school - but always nice to expand vocabulary.
No worries, I'd rather be corrected than keep doing the same mistake over and over.

And I think there is a future in peptide drugs, but have no proof so until we start seeing them...There are already peptides that cause HGH release, darkening of the skin, ...
 
Shambles said:
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Yeah, shivering and shaking uncontrollably, lockjaw, intense sweating, just not very pleasant all round. Also tends to involve that trippy side which adds an extra layer of fukkery and I'm sure you can imagine that however euphoric a drug is, if things don't feel right physically when tripping it can be really quite uncomfortable and worrying.

And as Kenny mentions, redosing works fine. In fact I found it quite hard not to redose compulsively initially (fiend :|) but must admit I've enjoyed it much more when I've kept it to no more than ~500mg max over a night. That's still on the high side so don't be assuming that's "normal" dosing as such. As mentioned, I've been a massive MDMA fiend in the past so am only just learning to curb my doses. I honestly do think I get more out of such drugs when I manage to reel in my more excessive tendencies. I do rather like redosing 6-APDB simply because I enjoy the psychedelic side which only really comes on strong after a couple redoses (in my experience anyway).



Yup. But perhaps not quite as much as MDMA as Kenny mentions. It's kinda subjective though and I've never had the opportunity to take 6-APDB whilst in company or out and about so it's hard to be sure given I've only taken it alone (albeit usually interacting with folk online).
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Does anyone have legit results for a marquis reaction for 6-APDB? I tested mine which produced a bright red to brown-red color over 60 seconds. I also had tested the substance at 100mg with another person and we both felt minimal effects, but to be honest it wasn't in an ideal setting.

Any other APB I've tried at 100mg, perhaps aside from 6-APB (which I thought was supposed to be less potent than 6-APDB?), would produce more significant effects than this, and their marquis reactions were leaning towards purple or black after 60 seconds.

Ive only seen one other person mention their Marquis results for 6-APDB and said it went from brown to wine-brown. So its still hard to determine what really should happen and if we even have real 6-APDB.
 
I very dimly recall a comparison pic of loads of RCs before they got banned and am sure 6-APDB was amongst them. Well, not sure sure but reasonably sure. That was in PD ages back though and I have no idea whether it would still be buried somewhere in there or been shifted over to MDMA & Empathogens (I think it's called?). Or archived. Or deleted. Could be anywhere so not much use, I'm afraid. If you're feeling lucky you could try the search engine. It's a bit hit and miss with short chemical names unfortunately. Doubly unfortunate being a drugs forum (wherein drugs tend to be discussed) really.

There have been some dodgy batches of 6-APDB which were pretty weak so it could be you got one of those. Dosage also seems to vary quite a bit from person to person. Not sure if that's purely a batch thing or summat else but I think the latter as people are likely to be using the same batch much of the time.
 
Evening folks,

I will be getting a sample of MXP tomorrow & I was wondering if it would be safe to consume a beer or two after ingesting the MXP. I found a trip report of someone who did but that was on another forum which is known for having some rather special people on it... I would much rather have the advice of BL'r. :)

My plan is to do an oral dose of 60mg with no re-doses after an initial allergy test. The two trips reports I've seen talk about 80mg doses but others say 50mg is a functional sort of high, so I reckon it's best to start of low & get a feel for the drug.
 
Regarding the 6-apdb.. do you have any harm reduction organisation that will test substaces?
 
'Peptide drugs' sounds similar to some of the ideas in a science fiction book called Fairyland by Paul McCauley. Written in the 90s and features all sorts of advanced 'mind viruses' which were engineered viruses that would make your ribosomes produce tailored mixtures of cool neurotransmitters and then self-destruct after a time. I was hoping someone would come up with that some time...

- though in the story this also extended to permanent 'religion viruses' that would convert you permanently to some horrible cult (there was also engineered blue sex dolls that became sentient (the fairys) and all sorts of other things). (sorry for sf ot)
 
Chatative said:
Evening folks,

I will be getting a sample of MXP tomorrow & I was wondering if it would be safe to consume a beer or two after ingesting the MXP. I found a trip report of someone who did but that was on another forum which is known for having some rather special people on it... I would much rather have the advice of BL'r. :)

My plan is to do an oral dose of 60mg with no re-doses after an initial allergy test. The two trips reports I've seen talk about 80mg doses but others say 50mg is a functional sort of high, so I reckon it's best to start of low & get a feel for the drug.
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i found it a total waste of money dip is better and cheaper .

as for mixing it with booze a few beers i.e 2 or 3 shouldn't be any major problem
 
Vurtual said:
'Peptide drugs' sounds similar to some of the ideas in a science fiction book called Fairyland by Paul McCauley. Written in the 90s and features all sorts of advanced 'mind viruses' which were engineered viruses that would make your ribosomes produce tailored mixtures of cool neurotransmitters and then self-destruct after a time. I was hoping someone would come up with that some time...

- though in the story this also extended to permanent 'religion viruses' that would convert you permanently to some horrible cult (there was also engineered blue sex dolls that became sentient (the fairys) and all sorts of other things). (sorry for sf ot)
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That book sounds interesting. Is it worth a read?
 
foolsgold said:
i found it a total waste of money dip is better and cheaper .

as for mixing it with booze a few beers i.e 2 or 3 shouldn't be any major problem
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Ok cheers.

I've read all I can on it & I have an open mind. I'm not looking to replicate anything & what I've read from positive experiences, it has some potential.

In my experience, there have always been mixed reviews on nearly every drug I have ever tried. I suspect that sometimes the drugs aren't what people expected & other times, more often, people probably have not sourced thier chemicals from a reliable source.

In the end of the day, I've decided to make up my own mind. I'll be sure to report back what my findings are!
 
Mods - should we maybe break down the RC thread into a directory ?

RC stims
RC sedatives
RC Dissociatives

Bit of a knife edge as we do not want to be seen to be promoting any RC BUT It would be great if a new user was able to look at the RC list with a vague understanding of what they are looking for.
 
Agreed, and maybe in the OP of each, list the most common stims/downers/disocotives and breif description. Or maybe just the ones of questionable safety if theres too many common ones to do
 
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