Neo-Doves test results

[Splatt]

To be honest the aussie product "Buzz" liquid vials gives better effects than 2 neo doves for me, feels like a clean pill with no headfuck. To get to a good place with the ND's you gotta take too much and have a fucked comedown.

 

[Kelly666]

Has anybody tried tried "body work" pills?
They sound speedy

[EDIT: Removed company name. Lil Angel15]

 

[juice_soldier]

^I'd give it a go, personally i think the products are ace.

Some agree, some don't. Try your hand with a few neo doves - you may get what you are looking for. For me, and the handful of people ive given them to - they liked it.

I'm not one to do full trip reports purely because i'm lazy.

 

[goodfellar]

i have ordered some sc2's, can someone give me a rundown on them

 

[phase_dancer]

^ try searching the thread for SC2

 

[BingoBango]

my dot points on sc2s (i've said it before):
- unique tingly feeling
- rapid heartbeat
- pretty good euphoria
- unable to sleep

 

[lil angel15]

In recent weeks this thread has deteriorated and deviated from its original purpose. The original intention of the thread was to discuss the contents of these pills after analysis of the Neo-Doves was conducted by Stargate. Through natural progression the discussion expanded to include the effects and legality of this range of pills. As these three aspects are all in line with the Harm Reduction goals of the site, the discussion was, and is, strongly encouraged.

Recently, however, the discussion has been dominated by purchasing, delivery and packaging which has absolutely no relevance to the HR goals of the site. Discussion about how many pills you have purchased, what country they are coming from, their delivery method and how long it should take them to get to Australia value adds nothing to the thread, and in the future, will be removed.

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Some time in the next few days this thread will be cleaned up to remove any superfluous posts. This will be conducted so it is easier to navigate when reading for the first time or when searching for information.

 

[goodfellar]

Got my Sc2's today old man dropped them around he was very suspicous what was in the envelope coming from where it does.
Snorted 1 Sc2 over an hour period, man theres some powder to snort.
First line was very stingy and hot but after doing more didn't notice any pain from snorting.
At first it took awhile to notice anything first feelings body started to feel a little jelly like.
Definite energy boost and started to get a little warmish and little sweats
Started feeling a bit loved up and chatty, Ive got no one to talk to so i started ringing friends for a chat, which is very unlike me. Getting a bit of jaw action and the mouth is dry, i'll combat the drys with a few carlton draughts.
Feel like topping up but i'll let it ride and see how much legs these have.
Very good substitute for speed. Also effects vision a little, eyes feel wide open like theres a bit of pressure. Scalp tingles a bit, thats about it for now update later, enjoying these at the moment, been high for about 3 hrs..
Really loving the tunes to cranking Whiskey Go Go's new album, back to the house reno's for me chow!

 

[tadfish]

I got told * thats it only amino acids in there pills. maybe they added an amino group to know drugs. like that GHB alternative GAMIBETAL

 

[tadfish]

many questions and comments

are they still as strong as u originally thought?
I dont find it safe putting these into a rave / weekend bender allong with other stuff.

well i have tried neo's with meth effects were good and better than taking it alone. although i did have it a few hours after the meth.
what other combos have people done?

I have been told by a reliable source in Isreal that these have bk-MDEA in them.

what does that bk stand for?
i take it bk-mdea is illegal under analog laws for MDMA type substances
giantsquid may i ask about this source?

^ It takes a fair while for these types of things to be scheduled, at least it won't happen this year thats almost certain. Unless of course they already are illegal then thats a different story.

what about emergency schedule. it doesn't take long and customs are alerted befor hand. and who wants to order something not long before its banned, you are at higher chance the more you order the more close to the schedualed substance date to get busted.

They're more subtle but smoother than Neo Doves. I accidently took one thinking it was something else and dozed off for 45 minutes but woke up feeing very nice They're actually more like Spirits but hornier. I could function perfectly normally one one of these but the high doesn't last that long. Hardly any comedown though.

with the people getting horny are you guys male or female. ust trying to figure out if this is for both male and female or one or the other...
Coke horny or testosterone type kinda effect??

from what we know yes. Ive had some confiscated though. As long as the bottle dosen't say 'aphrodesiac' on it you should be fine.

what country are you from which you had them confiscated Australia? just to be clear.

what are these ND2's???8) i am unable to find them on the website are they still around?

 

[tadfish]

From the manufacturer:



Looks like these things were effective enough for someone to sit up and take notice. Anyone know what regulations/ countries are being referred to in the announcement?

crap u guys relize that we will most likely be the cause of getting these banned.

[EDIT: Unnecessary. hoptis]
sorry but its a catch 22 which makes me mad cause us BL doing the right harm reduction thing and trying to be law ahh well not get in the shit with the law. well this very proactive and harm reduction behaviour is the thing that will cause the down fall mostly of these neo.
man i miss that days before those yanks did there operation tryp and busted all those RC suppliers. if only i had had more money back then...

 

[tadfish]

I can only assume that was directed at me. If so, please elaborate on your claim? Whoever it's aimed at, it's a BIG statement to make juice_soldier, so back it up or back out pal!

I really hate it when superhero users think they can safely and accurately predict what a drug does and how it metabolizes simply by taking it, then feel they know enough about it to safely advise others.

Just because a compound doesn't produce acute toxicity or a hangover, it doesn't automatically mean it doesn't cause chronic or delayed affects. I know lots of compounds that don't kill for up to 30 years or so after exposure. p-chloroamphetamine for example keeps killing serotonin neurons long after the pleasant experience has come and gone. While I'm not suggesting these products contain such poisons, the thing is, until the compound is correctly identified and some form of peer reviewed assessment can be sighted, we simply don't know what the outcomes could be long term. Mixing MDMA with any drug that has 5HT agonist properties, MAOA or SERT inhibition etc. can present a highly dangerous situation.

gee that p-chloroamphetamine is bad wonder how many people tired it and got fucked up. makes u wonder what state shulgin brain is in

 

[Rosencavelier]

gee that p-chloroamphetamine is bad wonder how many people tired it and got fucked up. makes u wonder what state shulgin brain is in

After having just read PIHKAL, I'd say that Shulgins brain was and is one of the finest the world has ever known

 

[tadfish]

I agree he is living proof of everything I would love to be and believe in. He is of coarse what the pro-drug war pushes don't want you to know about. I just wish that non-additive drugs like phens and tryps were legal enough, i remember the days about 3+years ago when alot of research chems were about ahh i loved those 2-C.... ah T-2... T-7.... ah those were the days. Fucking US government thinking they can police the world with operation Tryp. arrrrr

 

[juice_soldier]

^the sad truth is with the sheer amount of money and military influence the us has, they can.

The US DEA pays off whoever it needs to, to get whatever information it might need.

It's also sad that after all this time, we still have no conclusive results.

 

[Splatt]

Very true about the DEA. They're probably paying this company now, or the Israeli government to give them information about the company.

 

[rogan]

Had three over sat night/sun morning (1 dove, 1 sc, 1 spirit) with four medium strength pills, was very intense but worse come down ever, worse than any meth crash I've ever had. Got a few other people to have a try and got two completely different opinions, did nothing for one and the other loved it. Lots of melting walls, cartoon style vision by the end but I reckon that was just the MDMA/weed.

Don't think I'll bother with these much more or if I do valium/xanax definitely required, like speed alcohol is of no help at all.

 

[juice_soldier]

^Definately the weed, and perhaps mda by the sounds of it

 

[3 to the 3]

Are we any closer to finding out what is in these???? I am still happy to donate $$$ to get a result if that will help, as I'm sure may others would too...

I had 2 spirits and an SC over a few hours on the weekend and although I had a great time, the next few days were shit... Jaw, and eventually gums were very sore, chewed up my mouth, empty ghost like emotions, and anxiety later at night for the following 2 nights...

(I drank plenty of water, had heaps of good quality targeted vitamins -including 1000mg of magnesium during the night for the jaw)

Does anyone else feel that the side effects of these products get worse everytime you consume them?

If that is true, would it be reasonable to suggest that damage may be occuring each time you use them that leads to worse come downs each time?

 

[DrugSlave]

Are we any closer to finding out what is in these???? I am still happy to donate $$$ to get a result if that will help, as I'm sure may others would too...

I had 2 spirits and an SC over a few hours on the weekend and although I had a great time, the next few days were shit... Jaw, and eventually gums were very sore, chewed up my mouth, empty ghost like emotions, and anxiety later at night for the following 2 nights...

(I drank plenty of water, had heaps of good quality targeted vitamins -including 1000mg of magnesium during the night for the jaw)

Does anyone else feel that the side effects of these products get worse everytime you consume them?

If that is true, would it be reasonable to suggest that damage may be occuring each time you use them that leads to worse come downs each time?

I found that, but then i also noticed i was taking alot more, now if i keep it 2-3 pills per night, i am fairly good the next day.