need serious help quiting cocaine, anyone actually find a way too?

[spiff77]

I am so sorry guys, but no, we're still holding strong at 8 days and counting! Like some of you said, try and keep your mind on work or anything, just stay busy.....

Well, that's exactly what I've been doing, and I haven't even taken the time to check back onto Bluelight. Shit, some of you guys probably thought I was hold up in some hotel room with an OZ or something after my wife kicked me out, but that ain't the case. The kid is riding out day 8 with NO cravings as of yet. Kinda weird.........

Anyway, some more good news. The wife is cutting her work schedule down to three days a week, starting tomorrow, so she'll be home 4 out of 7 days. She know's me, know's my personality change and will be right on top of it, making it very difficult to obtain or use at all! Good stuff, well, until I really wanna do it anyway!

No 12 steps yet, but I have been checking in to the Ibogaine treatments. You see, I've been using opiates when I don't use cola, but I'm sure you can see the connection there. Anyway, Ibogaine may just be the ticket I've been looking for. We'll see, but for now, day 8 and counting...............


Spiff,

You da man! Hey brother, I'm not avoiding ya', just tryin' to keep my mind off of this shit we're talkin' about right now. You are right, we have consumed ourselves with it for quite sometime now, especially with regards to the pharmacology aspect. I appreciate the offer to come down. How long are you going to be there? Since my wife has cut back on work, right now may just be the time to do it!

Le Junk

Dude you can avoid me all you want. If I am a trigger or a enabler, the hell with me!! If four days go by and I have not heard from you and you didn't relapse, then call me next year man!!!

They said that after three to seven days the snow leaves your brain and its functions. It is totally independent at that point. But your body doesn't get the memo. So your tired and depressed and sleep all day etc.

What was so sad was day three for me. I was up all night till 6am. Feel asleep and woke up at 7pm. The following day they gave me the little toot and I felt like I was human again. That is how far it had gotten to re calibrating me to need it. Man, once I latched on to several of those mental triggers, that is all I think about now.

If I see or talk about it, I think its just a mind fuck. Tie that to the powder and its like walking around a man hole cover. You go the fuck around. Have a craving? Its not a snow craving, its a mental fuck with you, come look behind the curtain ploy. But there ain't shit back there, its all an illusion. Wrap your analytical mind around that and its a good support system.


But its just me avoiding doing something else, being me and being real. Not in made up snow land. And if all that verbage up there don't work then put this into action. When you even think of snow, snow cone, salt on your food or fucking white popcorn. You call me. I will talk you down man. I told you, I am done with it. I am denouncing that stuff like I am selling Amway.

We can sit out on the dock and talk about how much we are going to hate coke.......cause we already do.

Be strong man

 

[spiff77]

^^^^^that is PLUR if i have ever seen it.

hey Le Junk, mind over matter. It is a substance and being knowledgeable is a good thing, but admitting you got in too deep is hard at first. Coming to terms with the fact that a lousy plant alkaloid had you by the balls is also hard. Please continue to update as necessary

Thanks Roba for the sentiment. Not showboating at all, mean what I say. Thanks again for the compliment.

 

[spiff77]

fucking strong man.

check in with us le_junk. how you holding up?

And your three words made sure it slammed home SC. Thanks for reaching out and listening.

Spiff

 

[Zubi420]

you should probably switch to something thats easier to taper off of. or try hallucinogenic therapy. try taking shrooms a few times.

but first if you cnat quit cocaine itself, switch to something like an opiate. take hydrocodone. than when youve stopped taken cocaine and only on hydro, slowly taper off maybe 5 mg less each week. until you take no more. this can be risky due to the risk of psychological addiction of hydrocodone but the physical addiction is pretty much easy to get over, over time, you just taper off and once you get pretty low, the withdrawal will be very bearable. but odds are that cocaine is more psychologcially addictive than hydrocodone for you.

 

[Arsteraad]

NO dont do dope! in ANY form, you think coke addiction is bad, try dope thats a fuckin' way worse outlet!
You say you make a good income, that means you must be white collar, dope prevents you from being so, it riddles you with an apathy that coke cant even approach.

I'm a perfect example of this, i could go to college, get that yuppie job and not have to worry about drug money. Why dont I? Because i can make $150 a week to spend on dope, and have those few moments of bliss, sell myslef and my dignity for that IV rush. You think coke is bad? its ruined your life? Its ruined your relationship with your wife?

Well guess what dopers have neither wives nor lives!

and for gods sake dont replace coke with amphetamines, dont listen to that bullshit.

 

[MrMoss]

Best of BL ... this thread needs a home!

 

[ChemicalSmiles]

quit, dfont substitute.... that is all for now.

 

[Le Junk]

quit, dfont substitute.... that is all for now.

It's unfortunately too late for that. I discovered awhile back that opiates are damn near the same buzz as good cola. So yeah, I'm substituting opiates for my cociane right now. That's why I'm still up at 3:06 AM and can't go to sleep. I'm getting conflicting reports though that these are better, well easier to get off of than cocaine, but only time will tell, I guess.

Le Junk

 

[ForceSith]

Eat a ten strip, and if you don't have some sort of life-shattering realization at least the mental fuzzies would keep you screwed up enough for 3 or 4 days so that you could perhaps start to lose the addiction

 

[CloudyHazeD]

Im currently fighting a coke/crack addiction, myself.

I find that smoking herb really really helps the craving.

I have pretty well replaced the addiction with herb.....but that works out pretty well since I was a weekend user, albeit a 3 day nighter every weekend...........

If you can get rid of enabling friends and most or all craving triggers, the out of sight out of mind mantra will work really well.

Good luck! Glad to hear you've been going strong since the decision, too.

Im on day 10 after a replapse.....before the relapse I went 1 month.......

Battles won, sometimes you lose, but the war takes time.

 

[sumo]

Le Junk, Bravo for staying off of the blow but you are trading addictions. Instead of opiates you should have substituted coca leaves and coca tea which are safe with weed which is safe. Opiates are more addictive than coke. You know I been bugging you about coca for a year now. Better order some coca from Peru asap. $130 will buy you a three month supply. When you are craving and want to use put a 10 gram chew of coca in your cheek with a little liptka and before you know it you will have forgotten all about it and be absorbed in your work or whatever you should have been doing. If you are in public and get cravings opt for tea. It comes in normal tea bags, you can say it is green tea. Drink it anywhere you can drink tea.
Like I said before this is the only sustainable use of the sacred leaf. My wife could care less I drink coca tea and tolerates my chewing. She gets the real me and digs my herb. I feel great. I went to Canada for a week and was too paranoid to bring bud,coca and tea so I just brought the bud and some tea bags and I was fine. Lovin life. The Inca and the Mayan considered the coca leaf sacred a sacrament for thousands of years. Coca leaves have brought me good luck like god is smiling at me. I am a landlord and I had 4 vacancies in a building and all of a sudden a whole family of Guatemalans wanted the four apartments. The Guatemalans we see here are the 5' Mayan indigenous people. I had to ask them if they chew coca. They said no. I still thought it was a joke from god.
I can give this advice with clear conscience because it is 100% safe. God will allow you to enjoy those two sacred herbs if you respect and give thanks.

 

[FractalStructure]

I was actually thinking about advising opiates like oxycodone (dont start with H) as that will defenitely get you off stimulants period... BUT the chances of you loving this new relaxed guy can be very addictive.

I think a less surefire but safer idea would be to do some MDMA once in a while instead... you'll find its much more worthwhile and it would help your cravings for stimulants. If you absolutely NEED something everyday I would advise switching from coke to adderall, but at like 20mg doses. This way you're still stimulated, for a longer time, and i personally think amphetamine is much easier to quit than coke (that means amph and dexamph, not meth)

 

[sumo]

When an Andean takes a chew it is customary to throw a few leaves into the wind as an offering. They believe that there crops won't grow without coca. Minerals can not be extracted from the ground without coca. You can read a persons future in coca leaves. Coca is medicinal, provides many vitamins and minerals, can relieve suffering, and can help with altitude sickness. A child can go into a grocery store in Peru or Bolivia and buy coca tea just like any kid in the world can buy coffee or tea. Why? Because they are safe.
Le Junk can you hear me? Almost started cussing right there but for the love of God what do people have to lose? I have been preaching this here for a year and a half. Check my two threads. And I have no evidence that even one person has ordered any coca. People think they are so cutting edge marching lock step with everyone else. Yes Coca, No Cocaine.
So you get the program? Get your coca. Cut out all drugs. Use coca and coca tea as needed. Smoke some bud when you need to relieve aspects of suffering like nausea and loss of appetite or sleeplessness. Respect and give thanks.
And like good fortune I predict the outcome of this treatment will be very positive.
Good luck.

 

[JRARMZ13]

hang in there man, im only 19 but i spent one year in hell. between many diff. dealings and changes i went thru, i thought i lost myself in it. for me it was the money, i loved it getin it from this drug. but then i started to hate wakin up at such odd times, argueing with my girl and all out could not have fun without it. as some of them have said , i can only know a 1/10th of what u felt. but my connect had that 80's stuff man, about 75-80% pure, no need to clean it really. normal coke i could piss all over, but that good stuff will make u think twice, specially when ur not all amped up. I have ADHD, so it does some weird shit , plus i started doing all this when i did alot of acid. the dopamine receptors deff. took a beating. ALL IN ALL stay strong cuz ive been clean for a few months now n i believe u can do it!

 

[JRARMZ13]

I was actually thinking about advising opiates like oxycodone (dont start with H) as that will defenitely get you off stimulants period... BUT the chances of you loving this new relaxed guy can be very addictive.

I think a less surefire but safer idea would be to do some MDMA once in a while instead... you'll find its much more worthwhile and it would help your cravings for stimulants. If you absolutely NEED something everyday I would advise switching from coke to adderall, but at like 20mg doses. This way you're still stimulated, for a longer time, and i personally think amphetamine is much easier to quit than coke (that means amph and dexamph, not meth)

when i was coming off of the heavyy usage to cold turkey was when i hurt my back, i blew out a disk n they had me on 4 perc 10s a day. then i jus kept getn better pills until i finnally got surgery at the end of the the year in nov.

opi's make u chill, but the physical withdraw from serious ones like H n morphine can get serious. be WARNED

 

[socko]

And I have no evidence that even one person has ordered any coca. People think they are so cutting edge marching lock step with everyone else. Yes Coca, No Cocaine.

Can this be safely done in the united states? Couldn't trying to order leaf could get you arrested?

 

[sumo]

Can't cocaine get you arrested? Yes technically coca is illegal however Coca Cola imports tons of it for their flavoring and there is a stipulation in the narcotics act to allow decocanized flavoring agents. Stepan Chemical Co extracts the Cocaine out of the coca and gives rest to Coca Cola for flavoring. The pure Cocaine Hydrochloride is sold to the Pharmaceutical industry. Cocaine Hydrochloride is used in eye surgery to anesthisize eye and it constricts blood vessels to prevent bleeding. Makes patient feel great about their eye surgeon too. So yes it is illegal but I can't find one case of anyone being busted for it.
Most mail order stuff if anything gets confiscated at customs and you get empty package with green tape on it saying banned substance was found. Think of how they hbust dealers. They have a cop buy from them. Hard to prove you ordered something. Ever get something in mail you didn't order? Everyday, think Easter Seals.

 

[enoughorangejuice?]

to the OP - 23 years of cocaine use, was that daily? how fucked up is your nose? do you have a hole from wearing the cartiledge away (or w/e is there)?

thats crazy i've never heard of a coke addiction for that long, glad your seeking help and i wish you the best of luck kicking this thing!

-clean for 6 days of opioids for the first time this year

 

[JRARMZ13]

^^ that was a question i had.

i knew a girl that got up to 7 grams a day n she had a hole in the back of her nose, not jus the normal one. and started getin one in her the middle piece the septum i think? that was regular coke tho, none cleaned.

ur processes and cleanings probably helped save u alot of nose trouble.
but raw coke tears ur nose up worse sometimes .
how is ur nose bud? and how are u in general?

 

[OverDriven]

to the OP - 23 years of cocaine use, was that daily? how fucked up is your nose? do you have a hole from wearing the cartiledge away (or w/e is there)?

thats crazy i've never heard of a coke addiction for that long, glad your seeking help and i wish you the best of luck kicking this thing!

-clean for 6 days of opioids for the first time this year

I don't know about the OP, but most long time users of any kind of drug stop snorting and start injecting before long.