Well i know you are just trying to be safe but there is no danger in withdrawing from opiates..............And when you go to rehabs they use Suboxone for a week or so for you to kick heroin, so how can he say that 5 subs is not enough ?
Are you kidding jake? Of course there is danger in withdrawing from opiates. Wow, come on...how can you say that there aint no danger there.
I think you need to get familiar with the risks of it becuz they are very real. How can you take control of your plans to detox, etc, if you dont even know the basic info about the subject?
And the reason that 5 subs aint enough is becuz DETOXING DONT *KEEP* YOU CLEAN!!!
You MAY be able to detox with 5 subs, even tho i dont think it will be a very comfortable detox at all.
But the point of methadone and suboxone is to stay ON them long enough to stabilize your life and get your head together and learn how to live again without opiates.
It seems like you really believe that you can just PHYSICALLY detox off of dope/opiates and you will be cured. It dont work that way.
There is a lot more to it than the physical part.
Let me tell you one mutha fuckin thing.....Somethin worth doing is worth doing right. And shit like this....."doin it right" usually does not involve a super-fast detox with NO plans for support afterwards. I aint tryna bring you down yo, but the "plan" you got is barely a plan at all, i mean you dont even know the most basic shit about your own situation dude....Tramadol and the wd from it like other ppl have said really jacks up your risk of havin seizures. THATS definately a risk. And I aint even gonna start here, but there is LOTS of shit that if its left un treated can potentially kill you if it gets too severe when you are WDing just look at that story from the Front Page of drugs in the media a ways back about the kid who died from his WDs while locked up in jail out in PA. It aint common, and it aint a DIRECT thing like with benzos or alcohol but the side effects of severe extreme withdrawal CAN be very dangerous and in extreme situations the shit can kill you.
I really , really think its just a not so good idea to just be goin into this shit so blind yo. Wats your plan for after your subs run out? Shits just magically gonna be aight? you got a problem thats much deeper than physical. And by ignoring that part, and by rushing yourself even after u get repeated advice that its a bad idea, its just settin u up for a less than ideal out come for it.
The point of stayin on maintenance is to give you time to sort out the psychological issues of ur addiction. So that you aint gotta deal with the physical bullshit, the WD, the hustle the struggle, none of that. it gives you a calm stretch of safe time to address that shit in your head and work on your mental. You really cant do that while you are still usin dope, or while you are in physical withdrawal.
Once you get your head on straight and your mind is in a better place and you got support, counseling, watever, you can start to detox off the meth or sub slowly, and you gonna be much better prepared to do it successfully.
You do that shit rushed like you are doin now and it aint a solid foundation to put your sobriety on.
And yo, i say this in the kindest way possible--you keep sayin "oh but i dont feel like methadone is working for me" or you dont think sub is working....The problem AINT with the methadone jake. The problem is that you aint doin the shit you need to do to address ur issues, and you are taking the "quick fix", rushed way out. METHADONE and SUBOXONE DONT KEEP YOU CLEAN OR GET YOU CLEAN. THEY ARE THE *TOOLS* THAT CAN *HELP* YOU TO GET CLEAN. It really seems like you got on methadone, and just expected it to do the work for you, that once you were on it, you would just be A-OK and shit would be gravy. and then you went out and got high everyday and kept using dope and then u be like , Oh, methadone aint for me, it just aint working for me!! thats becuz u aint doin the work, yo! Its the same thing with sub, and you are puttin all your bets on sub now, doing the same old shit thinkin that its gonna just be this miracle drug that sets you free without you actually having to do anything. but That aint the way that will build a safe, solid foundation for u to build ur recovery on. Its just fuckin Mc Gyver-ing that shit. detoxing is just like 1/100th of the actual process of gettin clean successfully and it seems like u aint aware of that.
Neither sub, OR methadone, is gonna work for you when you aint willing to do shit the proper way. There is a process that it takes, and I aint sayin there is only one way becuz that is just as bad as the NA folks claiming the steps is the only way. but im just saying, that if you are really serious about gettin clean long term you need PATIENCE and you need the discipline and willingness to take it slow, step by step, to THOROUGHLY deal with shit that you need to address, piece by piece day by day. It aint gonna happen overnight and you are sellin yourself these fantasy ideas that it will just be all fucking good and great if you just detox and suddenly the problem will be gone. But you end up off the dope, still havin cravings, still wantin to use, still depressed, still havin ALL the same problems that you had when you was on dope, except NOW you aint got no coping mechanisms to deal with it, and you left just out there in the wind vulnerable to the next craving that comes your way.
If you take the time to do it right , you can avoid alot of that. But just slappin the shit together , its like building a house without even having a blueprint and starting with the walls instead of the foundation. You need a much bigger plan than just "Im gonna take 5 subs and do a week long detox, and then ill be as good as new!"
I aint tryna discourage you but it would be really unfair to you , to not bring this shit up. Its doin a dis service to you to act like this plan you got is just gonna be great and work just fine, becuz u ignoring the real problems here, and every single time u make a plan, every option you take, whether its methadone, suboxone, watever, you constantly ignore the real problems and instead you focus on all this other bullshit that distracts u from the real issue and its settin urself up to fail. But aint nobody gonna be able to make u face the reality.all we can do is try to show u that u are focusin on the wrong things and lookin for help in the wrong places and hopefully u will realize that getting clean AINT FAST, IT AINT QUICK, IT AINT EASY. It takes a LONG TIME, ITS HARD!!
You want this easy way out of shit yo, everytime people offers u a suggestion u just want to do the fastest, quickest, easiest thing, its like the people who want to take diet pills but not change their diet or exercise. You can keep tryin that shit all you want but in the end the only real, tried and true, successful way to do it, is the long, hard way that requires WORK from you.
You can keep tryin all these "get clean quick" schemes and plans that you dream up but you gonna find out eventually that there aint no way around this shit and until you are willing to put in the work and do it the "hard way", u aint gonna have that real success and feel truly happy and satisfied with ur life.
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I think a persons needs can also change, vary or oscillate so I try to keep an open mind when someithing doesnt help at once time, it might later on. 
Good luck!