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Originally posted by fearhs
Part of the contract for the actors in Trainspotting was that they had to inject heroin on no fewer than three separate occasions, although the studio paid for the heroin. Johnny Swan? He actually was a dealer in real life who they got to shoot everyone up. They weren't going to do the hospital scene until he fucked it up and they decided to make the most of it.

can you susbstantiate any of that - it sounds like absolute rubbish?

the guy who plays swanney is peter mullan - a well-respected actor. i understand that doesn't mean he's never been a dealer but i have followed his career and have never heard this allegation. i'm not so naive to assume this means it's not true but it's never come up.

on the main topic, they are actors. they act.

alasdair
 
Well what i noticed, and im suprised that none of yall said said something, is

Some actors actually DO act exactly like you would on a certain drug, they do certain little particulars that make it obvious that SOMEBODY actually did the drug because ONLY somebody who had experience with it or people who done it would know about those.

right down to the style of shit that you say. certain cats you be like, nah thats stupid peeps dont act like that when theyre high man.

But then theres some shit, like in bad boys II where martin lawrence accidentally does E, holy shit i was laughing my ass off so bad.

Because with certain drugs the way the media shows them and the way that they actually affect you is different. yea it aint hard to do weed. but what about other shit, what about ketamine or some shit like that. cats aint gonna know how you act on that if they aint done it.

and thats what im sayin. just the same way it dont say in DARE warning signs forpot smoking "resin on the bottom of lighters from putting out bowls" becuz they wouldnt KNOW that unless they did the shit. its the same thing.

i think harold and kumar did some serious shmokin. come on. "and today, a cheetah escaped from the zoo." and they laugh. its just so dead on perfect for something you would be laughin about when youre that ripped and they got that laugh down man.

iunnow man i dont think they make anybody do drugs but i do think that when theres a drug performance that hits the nail on the head like THAT then how you gonna say they didnt have some form of experience w/that drug, esp. the ones that are harder to portray
 
Originally posted by lacey k
i think harold and kumar did some serious shmokin. come on. "and today, a cheetah escaped from the zoo." and they laugh. its just so dead on perfect for something you would be laughin about when youre that ripped and they got that laugh down man.

your other comments suggest it would not be possible to act this scene without having tried pot. i just don't see it.

actors have to pretend to kill people, feel great remorse after, say, killing somebody, be numb after the death of a partner or loved one, etc.

do you think it's only possible for a good actor to nail parts like this if they have killed, lost a partner, etc.?

alasdair
 
Chech and Chong were only stoned once during the filmings of all there movies, I forget which movie but Cheech said they were spacing out and didnt hear the 'action' call. After that he said they didnt smoke. Take that with a grain of salt, though.
 
DexterMeth said:
^They got real junkies for the supermarket scene? That's kind of funny knowing that some producer payed for a bunch of junkies habit's.
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If Darren Aronofsky asked the producer to buttfuck an eight foot dildo, he'd probably do it. Big name auteurs with studio backing can get just about anything they damn well please for their movies as long as it's in budget.
 
A lot of actors really do a poor job of playing a character on drugs. I thought Uma Thurman did a terrible job in Pulp Fiction when she did a line of blow and went out to dinner with travolta's character. You'll notice that she did a HUGE line and yet she seem relatively normal and stable at dinner... this would not happen if someone was on such a high dose of cocaine as many of us know.
 
alasdairm said:
Originally posted by lacey k
i think harold and kumar did some serious shmokin. come on. "and today, a cheetah escaped from the zoo." and they laugh. its just so dead on perfect for something you would be laughin about when youre that ripped and they got that laugh down man.

your other comments suggest it would not be possible to act this scene without having tried pot. i just don't see it.

actors have to pretend to kill people, feel great remorse after, say, killing somebody, be numb after the death of a partner or loved one, etc.

do you think it's only possible for a good actor to nail parts like this if they have killed, lost a partner, etc.?

alasdair
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Nope, i only said that certain drugs would be very hard to act out believeably unless you had some type of experience, cuz there aint even relly a public perception of the drug to act out, you gotta get the info somewhere else. and some cats do research i guess but i think some of em do do the drug. harold n kumar, hell no obviously i dont think they had to smoke to do that. but i still think they did smoke.

and i also said, that certain things a actor does WHEN acting out the drugs effects, can give away whether they did the drug in the past or not. i aint sayin they are acting while high or they HAVE to.
what im sayin is, they give away whether they had experience in some way with the drug, whether thats thru them doin it personally or knowing somebody who did and seeing them act that way. because some, not all, things would only be known by somebody whose been there know what im saying?
 
I read an interview in Maxim where Neil Patrick Harris (Doogie Howser) admitted to trying ecstasy as "research" for his hilarious role in Harold + Kumar when he is rolling his ass off. He said he was totally sober during the filming though.
I also read that Robert de Niro had a scene in one of his older movies where he was on heroin, and he admitted that he actually used heroin before the scene to make it more authentic.
Also the guys in Half-Baked admitted to being stoned in every scene where they were supposed to be stoned.
So yeah I think a lot of the time the actors have used the drugs before or are even on them at the time for drug scenes.
 
Apparently after filming Fear and loathing in las vegas, Benecio Del Toro (Dr. Gonzo) found it very hard to find any work because most people in the industry were convinced he was wasted on the set; due to his ability to act like he's tripping or whatever.

im not sure if he's actually tried these drugs before, but he's one hell of an actor if he hasnt.
 
"I mean, we all know that drugs enhance music and art (drawing, painting, sculpting, etc.) but what about acting?"

this is a severely misguided, and almost embarassing attitude. Sure, many great minds used drugs, but few would attribute their greatness to their use. To imitate this part of someones behaviour in pursuit of their genius is to recognise ones own inadequacy. in my opinion of course
 
I recognized my inadequacy and overall sense of failure in life a long time ago. That's actually one of the reasons why I started using drugs.
 
Wasted walrus, I realised this week that much of my drug use is in fact not recreational, and that it is functional in avoiding insecurity. But I got over the idea of relying on drugs to induce creativity long ago. It just doesn't work. Btw, practically all my screen names (aol, msn) are iamthewalru5=D


Yeah that's totally it. Part of the contract for the actors in Trainspotting was that they had to inject heroin on no fewer than three separate occasions, although the studio paid for the heroin. Johnny Swan? He actually was a dealer in real life who they got to shoot everyone up. They weren't going to do the hospital scene until he fucked it up and they decided to make the most of it.
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I'm fairly certain thats bullshit. I remember seeing an interview with ewan mcgregor where he said that they had some heroin addict systematically show them how to cook up.
 
fearhs said:
Yeah that's totally it. Part of the contract for the actors in Trainspotting was that they had to inject heroin on no fewer than three separate occasions, although the studio paid for the heroin. Johnny Swan? He actually was a dealer in real life who they got to shoot everyone up. They weren't going to do the hospital scene until he fucked it up and they decided to make the most of it.
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i think whoever you heard this from was making shit up...


either that or your ass just grew vocal chords ;)

until you provide some proof, i dont believe you
 
I think Human Traffic is the best example of acters who have done drugs portraying the drug perfectly. In the interviews with the cast on the dvd thy don't exactly say they have done exstacy, but they say that they were all involved with the rave scene of the 90's.
 
^^^

I agree, that's one of the very, very few movies that does a good job portaying what ecstacy is really like.
 
i would have to say that spun did a pretty good job. Saltan of the sea is a a pretty good movie about meth use. Most of the actors did a good job-maybe to good. In a scene where they had been up fora couple of days in a basement, some of the people in it really looked like it was their third day up!
 
In 'Lawrence of Arabia' Omar Sharif looked kinda twichly.

He was such a Dexedrine head then-"I used to be very intense and took sppeed pills to make me more excited"

he was eventually pulled aside by fellow cast mate Jack Hawkins who counselled him on proper drug use-"dear boy acting needs energy, but relaxed energy, you need sleeping pills"

Watching this long winded film Sharif does appear more stimulated in certain parts, so maybe he dropped the dex for Barbs or something.
 
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