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Mixmag - "Methoxetamine = roflcoptr" - *MUST READ*

Marmalade said:
not generally a fan of word filters, but in this case I'd be in favour of a default forum filter to something more appropriate to replace the ROFLabomination, since it's such a shameful tactic and show by mixmag. kinda damaging and irresponsible of them imo

not sure if BL uses filtering, but filtering it to MXE Mket or Methoxetamine to make a stand on the issue might be helpful?

thoughts .. yay, nay, stfu?
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It's been a week or so and there's only this and a thread in DiTM, so far anyway, maybe an admin could just go through and add the 'e' every time it's mentioned. I agree it would be nice not to help this twat.
 
bogman said:
whats the crash like on the drug
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non for me, maybe just from tiredness due to not being able to get to sleep

but it's absolutely lethal when taken in high doses and mixed with too much alcohol. really lethal. I'm fairly experienced with psychedelics, and although I love MXE, it's also provided me with my worst drug experience ever. it makes a bad LSD trip seem like child's play in comparison ime.

I'd of quite happily chosen death had it been an option while I was in the middle of it

I know it's obvious not to do the above, but I'm stating the obvious anyway. Think I took between 150-250, with a 1/4 bottle of vodka on an empty stomach. not intentionally. i got drunk and then decided MXE would be a good idea.

If this is being marketed to the younger meph crowd, I think the chances of it being used with alcohol are pretty high.
Add lack of experience with dissociatives and psychedelics to the equation and those 3 elements are going to produce some 'interesting' experiences
 
Marmalade said:
I know it's obvious not to do the above, but I'm stating the obvious anyway. Think I took between 150-250, with a 1/4 bottle of vodka on an empty stomach. not intentionally. i got drunk and then decided MXE would be a good idea.
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Definitely not.
 
We've missed any chance to stop money changing hands, but perhaps bluelight could formally speak to mixmag and ask them to ensure the advertising terms do not appear online, and that should they wish to publish it with the word in it bluelight would not support next year's global drugs survey.
 
Who was the guy who came on here a while ago when there was a post about the Mixmag drug survery, he said he worked for the mixmag team, and im sure he was a regular Bluelight name, maybe he can shed some light, or someone dig up that old topic.
 
Munroe said:
Barberra Streisand effect anyone?
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is that in relation to my filtering question?

if yes, then possibly, but not really a direct comparable imo. my motive wasnt to suppress the substance in any way, and I doubt the effects of suppressing the new moniker would in any way sensationalise/promote the product or the rebadged name here at all, as it's already a known RC under the name of MXE etc .. it would generally only be an apparent change of name or an issue to those who come searching for it after hearing about it externally thru the promotion of the product elsewhere. and as this thread seems to demonstrate, I doubt many people would want to fight for the ********r cause

but regardless of the effects, filtering isn't something I'd like to see tbh. was just musing due to annoyance at the sheer audacity of the piece & the vendors total lack of imagination by choosing to rip off an internet meme that's so completely inappropriate for the product and in such a cheap and nasty way.
 
mattnotrik said:
Who was the guy who came on here a while ago when there was a post about the Mixmag drug survery, he said he worked for the mixmag team, and im sure he was a regular Bluelight name, maybe he can shed some light, or someone dig up that old topic.
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The OP maybe?

Specials is dealing with this I believe.
 
Funny, http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/russell-cope/31/60a/504, is now offline.

Also, I've sent an e-mail to Alex Miller the guy who wrote that Vice article you linked to:

Hello,

I've read your article about the so called drug 'roflcoptr' which is supposed to be MXE. I have some experience with the the drug itself and the legal high scene in general but I've never, until now, heard of MXE being called roflcoptr.
I think that this article is a sort of hidden advertisement for one persons website that sells this drug.

I do not have any hard evidence for this but I have some clues though:


1) The original 'meme' is actually called 'roflcopter' not 'roflcoptr' (you can google this and find many examples easily). If you google 'roflcopr' on the other hand, the first result you get is a website called [sourcing] selling MXE under the name 'roflcoptr'. This is the only example of MXE being called roflcoptr and the only example of the word 'roflcoptr' where it wasn't a misspelling of 'roflcopter'

2) There's a website called who.is where you can look up information about websites such as the owner, date of registration etc, .. For the [soursinging] website this is:

Domain name:
[blabla sourcing]

Registrant:
Cope Russell

Registrant type:
UK Individual

Registrant's address:
The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their
address omitted from the WHOIS service.

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 26-Jul-2011
Renewal date: 26-Jul-2013
Last updated: 11-Jan-2012
3) On linkedid.com there were several Cope Russells. After this information appeared on a messageboard his profile is now deleted if you visit it: (also a little suspicious)

http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/russell-cope/31/60a/504

There is however a google cache-version still available to visit with all the in formation:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...ussell-cope/31/6a/50&cd=1&hl=nl&ct=clnk&gl=be

I've made printscreens and uploaded them to imageshack.us, here are the URLS

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/259/coperussell1.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/coperussell2.jpg/


a) He explicitly states he has affiliation with Roflcoptr and mentions the company website.
b) he's had 2 jobs working with magazines, the lastest of which is with a music-magazine Artrocker magazine (such as mixmag) where he is likely to meet other journalists in the same field


Now I know this is hardly any damning evidence but it IS quite bizarre that an article about MXE, which has never been called that expect for one website suddenly is saturated with the term. I find this kind of shady advertising very irresponsible (if that actually is what it is)
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I know it doesn't really matter much since it's not illegal anyway, and I'm not actually opposed to this guy selling MXE .. But the way he goes about it is so fucking douchy.
 
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lovetotalk said:
Apparently it is called that, but its nothing new......it's been around for a while now VICE wrote some stuff on it just after the others did: http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/we-interviewed-the-man-who-invented-roflecoptr
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eh?

VICE reference the fact they did an article on it in 2011 and referred to it as Methoxetamine, and link to the article. this recent article of theirs alludes to the ROFLAbomination name being new, and that it first appeared in Mixmag this month. then NME this week.
 
I know it doesn't really matter much since it's not illegal anyway
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I think that we can all agree that this article has hastened a ban on MXE.
I'm not actually opposed to this guy selling MXE .. But the way he goes about it is so fucking douchy.
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It's worse than douchy. It's downright fucking immoral. This stuff is not meph. You cannot hoover down grams of this stuff in a night and be fine. It is not an appropriate material for a teenager to have their first drug experience with. Setting up business selling it from a site deliberately designed to be operated from a smartphone (and therefore presumably without doing a whole lot of research first), then stirring up hype in the media, whilst giving the drug a name that is clearly meant to appeal to young people, in order to make a quick profit, is disgusting. People are going to buy half a gram of this stuff, rack it up into a couple of lines, hoof one down and get their minds warped. People might get hurt- some people are definitely going to have uncomfortable experiences. The media frenzy will snowball, and this drug will be banned. Many victims, only a few winners- the cynical cunts who have orchestrated this business.

At the time of the Mixmag survey, I declined to participate, and this is exactly why. When you fill in one of their surveys, you just make the RC scene worse. I'll help a researcher at UCL, sure, but give these guys market research for free so that they can irresponsibly push powerful dissociatives, get people hurt and drugs I like banned? No thanks.
 
roflcopter = beginning of the end (for methoxetamine) I predict

This is like when '4-methylmethcathinone = "meow meow" (really?! it does? ) moment', how long was it legal after that name appeared? Can anyone set up a POLL? Be interesting to guess how long it's got left!

I reckon 6 months - especially as 'methoxetamine' is now appearing in pubmed (multiple times)
 
Vader said:
I think that we can all agree that this article has hastened a ban on MXE.

It's worse than douchy. It's downright fucking immoral. This stuff is not meph. You cannot hoover down grams of this stuff in a night and be fine. It is not an appropriate material for a teenager to have their first drug experience with. Setting up business selling it from a site deliberately designed to be operated from a smartphone (and therefore presumably without doing a whole lot of research first), then stirring up hype in the media, whilst giving the drug a name that is clearly meant to appeal to young people, in order to make a quick profit, is disgusting. People are going to buy half a gram of this stuff, rack it up into a couple of lines, hoof one down and get their minds warped. People might get hurt- some people are definitely going to have uncomfortable experiences. The media frenzy will snowball, and this drug will be banned. Many victims, only a few winners- the cynical cunts who have orchestrated this business.

At the time of the Mixmag survey, I declined to participate, and this is exactly why. When you fill in one of their surveys, you just make the RC scene worse. I'll help a researcher at UCL, sure, but give these guys market research for free so that they can irresponsibly push powerful dissociatives, get people hurt and drugs I like banned? No thanks.
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^^ this. wrote similar in my post a few pages back about the inevitable combination of high doses, alcohol and inexperience being a recipe for disaster

when I filled in this years MixMag survey, alarm bells rang at the amount of disproportionate focus on MXE compared with the focus on other RC's.

I wouldve credited them with being more responsible. they obviously aren't.

the whole scenario - the survey/shameless rebranding/shameless & ruthlessly targeted promotion, makes the situation totally unacceptable and completely irresponsible on an epic scale.
 
i have to say i am curious to see what kind of media frenzyed stories will appear after someone sniffs 250mg and it all goes wrong.

my goes with it weren't all that nice, but mind blowing enough.
 
It's worse than douchy. It's downright fucking immoral.
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True, I stated it a little mildly ;)

Vader said:
I think that we can all agree that this article has hastened a ban on MXE.
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I ment the advertising through the article isn't illegal (I think). Still, I hope he gets exposed and loses his job at least :p
 
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