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Mixmag - "Methoxetamine = roflcoptr" - *MUST READ*

jancrow said:
Is the fb page still up? I can't seem to see it any more.
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http://www.facebook.com/www.roflcoptr.co.uk - It's still there

jancrow said:
I wonder if dickhead is realising a little late in the game that he's irresponsibly marketing something which is liable to fuck a lot of people up.
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The guy knows exactly what he's doing. Roflcoptr was designed from the ground up to do exactly what it does. Feature in magazines read by teenagers, get picked up by a couple other publications, receive a surge in business, get itself noticed by the tabloids, then the broadsheets and then the BBC, ITV etc etc.

By the time it gets featured on Newsround, Mr roflcoptr will be a made man. Everything about it screams 'NOTICE ME'. I mean, here we are in a heated 80 post discussion about it. 10/10 for method I guess, but Stalin/10 for conscience. Fucking sucks.
 
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Vader said:
At the time of the Mixmag survey, I declined to participate, and this is exactly why. When you fill in one of their surveys, you just make the RC scene worse. I'll help a researcher at UCL, sure, but give these guys market research for free so that they can irresponsibly push powerful dissociatives, get people hurt and drugs I like banned? No thanks.
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This means the survey, designed by Global Drug Survey and Mixmag in partnership with the Guardian, could potentially become the biggest of its kind, and an extraordinary source of data about what drugs people use, how often they take them, and the consequences - medical, social and legal - of taking them.

to be fair, it wasnt just mixmag, it was a survey designed by Global Drug Survey and Mixmag in partnership with the Guardian. it's purpose seems to of been in good faith, and fairly extensive. I don't think the Guardian will be happy campers if MixMag have exploited the situation, particularly in advance of the results being published.

Original article @ the guardian with the survey's creator, consultant addictions psychiatrist Dr Adam Winstock
 
check this out:

when I just looked at the Global Drug Survey site ... just saw the links under their twitter header on the left:

'The dangers of Roflcoptr
http://t.co/E8JJRiQq #legalhighs #Drugs
4 days ago


what a bunch of shameless mofos.

the Guardian better fucking be interested in this.


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The GlobalDrugsSurvey statement of purpose:
We are the world’s first and only Global Drug Survey — an independent drug-use data agency committed to being accurate, objective and honest.

not sure linking to articles about a 5 day old, expediently & irresponsibly rebranded drug, fits the above ethos myself

I'm calling the ROFLAbomination this years SUNNY D ... lawdy.
 
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Marmalade said:
check this out:

when I just looked at the Global Drug Survey site ... just saw the links under their twitter header on the left:

'The dangers of Roflcoptr
http://t.co/E8JJRiQq #legalhighs #Drugs
4 days ago


what a bunch of shameless mofos.

the Guardian better fucking be interested in this.


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The GlobalDrugsSurvey statement of purpose:
We are the world’s first and only Global Drug Survey — an independent drug-use data agency committed to being accurate, objective and honest.

not sure linking to articles about a 5 day old, expediently & irresponsibly rebranded drug, fits the above ethos myself

I'm calling the ROFLAbomination this years SUNNY D ... lawdy.
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To be fair to Global Drug Survey, they tweet every new 'dangerous drug warning' that appears in the news. It could just be that they're on the ball and noticed NME's roflcoptr article. The timing and affiliation is very suspicious though.
 
Just reported that facebook page. I don't normally do things like this but he needs to be stopped one way or another.
 
Hello,

This is an e-mail I've written to Alex Miller, who wrote an article on Vice.com about an article written in Mixmag about methoxetamine (aka 'roflcoptr'). I, and with me others on a harm-reduction forum called Bluelight, think that the article in Mixmag was a hidden advertisement to promote one man's website that sells the chemical under that name.

We at Bluelight are not against the use or sale of drugs, but we DO advocate a harm-reduction approach. We don't condone the encouragement of drug-use, especially not in a way that is irresponsible and could cause harm to someone.

The topic is being discussed at http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/606797-Mixmag-quot-Methoxetamine-roflcopter-quot/

Please take a little time to read my e-mail and some of the posts on Bluelight.

[here is the content of the e-mail I wrote that I posted earlier]
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The e-mail I would send to Paul Butler and Adam Winstock. Think I should include the link to this topic? I haven't sent it yet, advice is appreciated.
 
I am fucking loving this.

A bluelight call to arms...........................................don't mess with the bluelight army! B

Fully agree.........The Guardian is the way forward...they totally love their accountability and love their journalism to be all above board. (To be fair, they are one of the better papers when it comes to balanced drug journalism)
 
Solide said:
The e-mail I would send to Paul Butler and Adam Winstock. Think I should include the link to this topic? I haven't sent it yet, advice is appreciated.
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Id say YES, link to this thread. Were are only discussing a substance that is mentioned in the mixmag article. And as i said before the Guardian are one of the few papers who dont seem to have their heads up their arses when it comes to drug journalism.

There are a couple of factors here, but the most serious one is the fact that MXE is being sold in this manner via the mixmag article. This is NOT Mephedrone. This will fuck a lot of inexperienced folk up. Can you imagine an 18 year old racking up a Mephedrone sized line of MXE and still being able to walk about!

It'll be Daily Mail "Teenager who thought he was a bird, dies from head injuries at the bottom of cliffs) and such like.

(Just remembering the false "bloke ripped off his own scrotum on mephedrone story that did the rounds)
 
On roflcoptr homepage:
Overseas customers welcome
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Roflcoptr refund policy:
We are not able to take responsibility for the actions of Customs and Excise. We are unable to help you (if your package is intercepted).
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But wait, you may be eligible for a replace/refund!
*Source* will not replace or refund items lost in the post unless Special Delivery has been selected and payed for.
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Oh
ONLY if we are notified within 7 days of receiving your order
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International orders can take the best part of a week to arrive. It'll be over a week before you can realistically claim your order's been lost. Even special delivery won't save your ass then.
 
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Sent the e-mail. Haven't gotten a response from Alex Miller yet by the way.

(also, I sent the email under '[email protected]' .. maybe not the brightest idea, sounds like an adress that would get blocked by a spam-filter :D )
 
vader may have have some thoughts about direction to take

for me one of the main issues I have is that the site seems to of solely been created, named, and constructed in conjunction with the magazine itself. i can't see how it can be seen as anything else. since the name first appeared in the article, and until then didnt exist in relation to the product. the article was the site 'launch' in effect.

is this how it appears to everyone, or is it just me?

the 2nd issue is then the abhorent marketing to a specific demographic in such an irresponsible manner
 
His FB page has some date of Sep 21st or such like on it. I just think he's using Mixmag as a ladder - with his (FB friend) the journalist and the editor holding the ladder for him.

Cunts.
 
vader may have have some thoughts about direction to take
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Is this me having greatness thrust upon me? Fair enough. If you want my opinion, we can rule out the site itself and the affiliated facebook page, as obviously the guy doing this is not going to be sympathetic to our view (i.e. "stop doing this, you wanker"). If it is the case that a journalist at Mixmag is abusing his position, and advertising a product without the knowledge of his superiors, then that might be worth bringing to the attention of those superiors. The best course of action, to my mind, though, is to alert the Guardian to the shady dealings of their (market) research partner. I'm sure we could draft a letter to the Guardian making them aware of what has happened here (that their associates at Mixmags are promoting RC vendors, and that those vendors seem to be particularly irresponsible).

A word of caution, though- by drawing attention to the article, we play right into their hands. I would avoid making a public song and dance about this thing (in fact, this very thread is probably serving as free publicity for this vendor) any more than is strictly necessary. Of course, I myself am guilty of this to some extent, but posting on social network sites about this, and thus alerting people who'd not heard about it before, is counter-productive.

One more thing- it is my understanding that this vendor has been in business for a while. Of course, this whole thing still stinks, but the site was not launched at the time of the article (though it did get a makeover shortly afterwards).
 
not up on facebook enough to look into it myself, and I dont have an account. but has it been called ROFLshit since sept? I think you can change your name on account or page at least once?

not sure

it's possible that can be traced up somehow
 
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@ vader - agree about the guardian being the most effective port of call.

I edited whom i thought was the best person to contact there in my post about contacting the guardian en masse a coupla pages back

was the site the same name before the relaunch? and how long has it been up and trading?
 
Vader said:
A word of caution, though- by drawing attention to the article, we play right into their hands.
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Exactly. The old 'no publicity is bad publicity' thing.

If our concerns and criticisms are mostly confined to this thread then there's a good chance that Bluelight's high postition in Google searches and repect among RC users will get the message through to some would-be customers and at the same time avoid granting the 'copter site more mainstream media exposure.
 
Posted an hour ago on NME

Roflcoptr commented on NME.COM.
You need to stop with these articles. I'm running out of the stuff. By the way, if anybody wants to employ a viral marketing consultant I'm thinking of switching careers, I seem to have a previously untapped talent for it and this job doesn't look like it's got much of a future.
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Man sets up site selling MXE as 'roflcoptr', gets Mixmag journo friend to give him 2 page advert. Er, article.

In one.
 
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