Millionnaires have some more money

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

I didn't say anything about whether or not MOP "believed in" the war or the military.

My point is that no one was forced with the threat of violence or death to fight in those wars. Their mouthes were stuffed with gold, which they were happy to take until they got out there and realised it wasn't a tea party. As a poor cunt who has never fought in a war, I happen to believe I am totally in control of whether I fight or not. Even if conscription came back you could still be a conscientious objector.

 

[knock]

My point is that no one was forced with the threat of violence or death to fight in those wars. Their mouthes were stuffed with gold, which they were happy to take until they got out there and realised it wasn't a tea party. As a poor cunt who has never fought in a war, I happen to believe I am totally in control of whether I fight or not. Even if conscription came back you could still be a conscientious objector.

Don't be so naive. People are under all kinds of pressure - from family, friends, neighbours, workmates, from ideas in their own heads which got their during their upbringing. Financial pressures to make a living to feed their family.

Count yourself lucky you are not subject to the specific pressures which lead someone to give their lives to a state's military.

 

[missing old pills]

Plenty of soldiers who didn't believe in the war didn't go... MOP on the other hand served 9 years, which means he even renewed his contract. Not the action of someone who doesn't believe in the war or the military really.

Well that just shows how much you fucking know doesn't it.
When I joined at 16 I was a boy soldier who didnt know my arse from my elbow.
I thought this is a job for me and was given the option to sign for 3,6 or 9 years.
I never renewed my contract I was doing my job.
Only afterwards did I see these things for what they are.
If you want to talk to me get your fucking facts straight first you prick.
As for a left wing government taking us into that war I fucking hate Blair's Bush cock sucking more than most.
That's most of you brain washed fucking idiots covered in America and leave the world alone with your fundamental crazy Christian values.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Well that just shows how much you fucking know doesn't it.
When I joined at 16 I was a boy soldier who didnt know my arse from my elbow.
I thought this is a job for me and was given the option to sign for 3,6 or 9 years.
I never renewed my contract I was doing my job.
Only afterwards did I see these things for what they are.
If you want to talk to me get your fucking facts straight first you prick.
As for a left wing government taking us into that war I fucking hate Blair's Bush cock sucking more than most.
End of you brain washed fucking idiot and leave the world alone with you fundamental crazy Christian values.

I am not a fundamentalist Christian you moron... How the fuck did you manage to serve in Iraq/Afghan any way? You were out by 24, which was 17 years ago if you are 41. So which war are you talking about? The Faulklands? Either way, even if I am a right winger I had fuck all to do with either of those wars. I was a teenager for 2 of them, and not even born for the other one. So don't go trying to project your self inflicted issues on me. You had infinitely more to do with those wars than 99% of rich people and right wingers.

You are making excuses for yourself that you would never make for others. The truth is it took you 9 years to realise you'd made a mistake, and that makes you a retard.

 

[knock]

Well here's just a couple of stories of rich cunts who have taken risks and ended up poor for it:

I know a cambridge graduate who now runs one of the biggest festivals in the UK who has been a millionaire and bankrupt twice. He is now on his way to becoming rich for the 3rd and hopefully final time.

My dads boss was worth over a mil 5 years ago. Now he has had to remortgage his house and sell his car just to pay his employees wages because his buisness tanked.

Thousands of rich people go bankrupt each year... Everytime the stockmarket fluctuates that's fortunes being made and lost. 2/3 businesses will fail in the first 3 years... So I guess you will now admit you are wrong? I admit it's not a great situation to be in when you're a poor cunt, I am at the moment. But before I was ill I put up barriers to my exploitation by being self employed and selective about my work. I went from being dirt poor to relatively well off quite quickly. There is at the end of the day plenty of ways for poor people to become rich if they are willing to risk it all. I think you will find that many top business people risked it all to get where they are now, and many took a few attempts and bankruptcy to do it.

Your cambridge graduate friend. Not privileged at all then?

Your dad's boss must have some house and car that they will pay employees wages.

Anyway, you can give two examples. I can't actually think of any rich cunts who have gone bankrupt. Although I will note that going bankrupt is a form of protection of the rich cunt against their creditors! So much for risk, eh? The system is designed to limit rich cunt's risk. That's what a Limited Liability Company is for. It limits the liability, i.e. risk, of the company's directors. The Limited Liability Company is one of the cornerstones of capitalism and it's point is to remove risk!

So as I say I can't think of any rich now poor cunts. But I can think of some rich now richer ones. I don't want to identify them but one started off as an accountant, made some money then moved into property development and made millions. The other had a public relations company and now is part-owner of his local football club. The first one has many stories about taking government enterprise funding and basically using it to line his pockets. The other one is just a cunt who I did work for once and he refused to pay me.

My mum and dad's next door neighbours have steadily amassed a local property portfolio over the years. I'm not sure what risk they've taken though.

Do you know any more rich now poor? I don't see any point in listing all the famous rich cunts now richer as there are so many and we all know them. I can't think of any famous rich now poor, can you?

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Don't be so naive. People are under all kinds of pressure - from family, friends, neighbours, workmates, from ideas in their own heads which got their during their upbringing. Financial pressures to make a living to feed their family.

Count yourself lucky you are not subject to the specific pressures which lead someone to give their lives to a state's military.

You don't be so naïve. We are one of the richest countries on the planet. If you want you can never work a day in your life. If we lived in the congo you might have a point. Most of the time soldiers go into the army against several of their family and friends wishes. If I thought a war was wrong you'd never get me to fight in it. This isn't WW2 there aren't women walking around with white feathers any more.

 

[missing old pills]

I am not a fundamentalist Christian you moron... How the fuck did you manage to serve in Iraq/Afghan any way? You were out by 24, which was 17 years ago if you are 41. So which war are you talking about? The Faulklands? Either way, even if I am a right winger I had fuck all to do with either of those wars. I was a teenager for 2 of them, and not even born for the other one. So don't go trying to project your self inflicted issues on me. You had infinitely more to do with those wars than 99% of rich people and right wingers.

You are making excuses for yourself that you would never make for others. The truth is it took you 9 years to realise you'd made a mistake, and that makes you a retard.

Ahhhh that's the trick thicko.
I joined in 1987 so by simple maths you can see I served in the first gulf war.
I don't recognise NATO or the UN anymore as they are a part of the problem not the solution.
Therefore the first gulf war I classify as illegal as are all wars imo.
I also saw your fucking thick trigger happy pilots demolish a warrior fighting vehicle and two of them was my friends.
I was also unfortunate enough do see what you evil bastards did to the Basra road although the ground war had finished.
We were promised some beer of you cunts after we'd cleared the burned cars and bodies up.
We got nothing.
Burn in hell with most of your fucked up visions of the world.

The Falklands was 1982 as well so do the math with that thicko

And at what point did I say I served in Afganistan you fucking thick twat

 

[knock]

You don't be so naïve. We are one of the richest countries on the planet. If you want you can never work a day in your life. If we lived in the congo you might have a point. Most of the time soldiers go into the army against several of their family and friends wishes. If I thought a war was wrong you'd never get me to fight in it. This isn't WW2 there aren't women walking around with white feathers any more.

Are you deliberately missing my point? I thought it was other people who missed your point?

PS Are you from the USA as MOP intimates?

Oh yeah I just remembered the guy that runs a local computer shop. He used to dissolve his company every year to avoid paying tax and start a new one. He has operated out of the same premises for about 20 years now but probably had about 10 different companies in the first 10 years, to avoid the tax. He's a bit too prominent now to be getting away with that shit. He has since then amassed a huge property portfolio. diversified his business and become a bit of minor celebrity. Complete cunt. No risk.

 

[missing old pills]

Are you deliberately missing my point? I thought it was other people who missed your point?

PS Are you from the USA as MOP intimates?

He's thick like one, talks the brainwashed shite as them so I'll treat the cunt as one even if he isn't the fucking cock.
Call me spineless I'd fucking rip his out if I could get my hands on him with his bullshit fucked up no idea talk he shites out of his mouth.

 

[knock]

He's thick like one, talks the brainwashed shite as them so I'll treat the cunt as one even if he isn't the fucking cock.
Call me spineless I'd fucking rip his out if I could get my hands on him with his bullshit fucked up no idea talk he shites out of his mouth.

I wouldn't let him get to you so much; remember, when he wakes up in the morning, he's still him!

 

[missing old pills]

Lol, nice

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Your cambridge graduate friend. Not privileged at all then?

Your dad's boss must have some house and car that they will pay employees wages.

Anyway, you can give two examples. I can't actually think of any rich cunts who have gone bankrupt. Although I will note that going bankrupt is a form of protection of the rich cunt against their creditors! So much for risk, eh? The system is designed to limit rich cunt's risk. That's what a Limited Liability Company is for. It limits the liability, i.e. risk, of the company's directors. The Limited Liability Company is one of the cornerstones of capitalism and it's point is to remove risk!

So as I say I can't think of any rich now poor cunts. But I can think of some rich now richer ones. I don't want to identify them but one started off as an accountant, made some money then moved into property development and made millions. The other had a public relations company and now is part-owner of his local football club. The first one has many stories about taking government enterprise funding and basically using it to line his pockets. The other one is just a cunt who I did work for once and he refused to pay me.

My mum and dad's next door neighbours have steadily amassed a local property portfolio over the years. I'm not sure what risk they've taken though.

Do you know any more rich now poor? I don't see any point in listing all the famous rich cunts now richer as there are so many and we all know them. I can't think of any famous rich now poor, can you?

Actually, he was from a working class family and managed to claw his way into Cambridge and get a first in Engineering

Other than that, let me think:
-Mike Tyson
-Gary Coleman
- Francis Coppella (director of the Godfather who later went on to create a musical that failed miserably)
- Walt Disney (Before Disney)
- Pamela Anderson
-Henry Heinz
- Burt Reynolds
- Henry Ford
- Abraham Lincoln

Seriously, how many do I have to give before I've proven my point? I don't know that many rich people for personal examples to be honest, the only other example I can think of from personal experience is a guy I used to work for who went crazy on buy to let's before 2008 and then boom the banks pulled his mortgages out from under him.

Of course LTD companies protect you to a certain extent, but most investors don't diversify nearly enough. Many are rich via just one company, and when that goes under they're finished. Many keep pumping money from their personal wealth into the business for the sake of the employees, and of course in the vain hope they can make it all back.

 

[knock]

Why are you using dead people to make your list longer? That's cheating.

So's using boxers / breast implant carriers. These are people who get rich through no fault of their own and if they are now poor it's simply a return to their normal condition.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Ahhhh that's the trick thicko.
I joined in 1987 so by simple maths you can see I served in the first gulf war.
I don't recognise NATO or the UN anymore as they are a part of the problem not the solution.
Therefore the first gulf war I classify as illegal as are all wars imo.
I also saw your fucking thick trigger happy pilots demolish a warrior fighting vehicle and two of them was my friends.
I was also unfortunate enough do see what you evil bastards did to the Basra road although the ground war had finished.
We were promised some beer of you cunts after we'd cleared the burned cars and bodies up.
We got nothing.
Burn in hell with most of your fucked up visions of the world.

The Falklands was 1982 as well so do the math with that thicko

And at what point did I say I served in Afganistan you fucking thick twat

Sorry, it was the crying about Bush/Blair and the illegal war rhetoric which confused me. But give me some credit, its not as stupid as fighting for something I don't believe in for 9 years LOL. I'm English you dense cunt. And as for kicking the shit out of me, I doubt it. I'd just tell you your laces were undone and by the time you'd figured out they weren't I'd be long gone

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

Glad you're having a lovely birthday MSB.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Why are you using dead people to make your list longer? That's cheating.

So's using boxers / breast implant carriers. These are people who get rich through no fault of their own and if they are now poor it's simply a return to their normal condition.

But they are rich cunts who go on to hire poor cunts when they manage their money, who then go on to lose it all. You were asking me about people I knew about who'd gone bankrupt - and you specifically asked for famous people? Erm Irelands richest man went bankrupt last year and he was a billionaire.

Either way this debate between us started because you insinuated that I took the rich's propaganda hook line and sinker, and that I had no real life examples to provide for why I believed this things. I have shown you 3 from my life, and half a dozen rich people. So that has proven that thesis wrong.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Glad you're having a lovely birthday MSB.

I'm just on the train laughing my ass off. Its my birthday and MOP can cry if he wants to

 

[Furious George]

I'm just on the train laughing my ass off. Its my birthday and MOP can cry if he wants to

Are you sure you're English? :D

It would make so much more sense if you were raised in America (I guess I'm admitting to terrible cultural stereotyping, but it's true).

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

I'm just on the train laughing my ass off.

Good. Good. Mind the gap.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Are you sure you're English? :D

It would make so much more sense if you were raised in America (I guess I'm admitting to terrible cultural stereotyping, but it's true).

I don't know why but arse always felt like a clunky and crude word to me. I much prefer the other spelling, plus the spell checker on my phone recognises it. I am afraid I have never been to America, and that I am pretty much banned due to drug cautions