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Dissociatives [Methoxetamine Subthread] Combinations - 2nd experiment

^^^ I suppose it'd be a case of YMMV - would have to trial it for yourself to work out when to dose each one, as your body wouldn't necessarily go about absorbing and distributing the substance in the same manner as someone else's.
 
You're right trozzle. I usually have a more rapid come-up on 4-ho-met than other people. Whereas, with mxe my come-up time is usually similar to others. I believe it's because of my fast metabolism, so perhaps since I take mxe nasally it delays the come-up to a similar degree that others have.
 
Weird, nasal MXE starts to hit me really fast, and oral even I can feel in 5 minutes (alerts) with an empty stomach. MXE usually peaks orally at 35-40 minutes for me and my friends as well. I wonder what causes that variance? Another PD person was saying it takes multiple hours to reach full effect orally.
 
^I usually take it in 15-20mg bumps over an hour, so perhaps that has something to do with my slow come up. Usually when I take the last of three bumps, the last one hits me a lot harder. I'm sure if I took all 45-60mg at once, it would be a different story. I've seen a friend of mine take 45mg in one go and it hit him within half an hour. I believe this may explain my personal variation.
 
Variation in onset is one reason I dislike taking things orally...have had 200mg of crystal MDMA take 1.5hrs to take effect on an empty stomach, then on a different occasion same dosage from the same batch hitting like a truck in just over 15 minutes haha
 
Xorkoth said:
Makes sense. You ever try it orally? I think it works better orally than nasally for sure.
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I have on two different occasions. The first time it had little effect at 40mg. The second, I combined it with a light nasal dose, and I ended up feeling very sick and sweating a bunch, salivating a bunch and such. I've pretty much just given up on oral since I know I love the effects of nasal, and it is so reliable for me nasally. One of these days I'll have to give it another shot. There's just something exciting about insufflating mxe for me, and it's the only drug I ever take nasally.
 
Weird. People are affected by MXE so differently. Everyone I know in person comes up fully within 40 minutes of taking it orally, feels it a bit within 5-15 minutes, and likes oral better than nasal. But that only includes maybe 5 or 6 people and myself. I've read of a number of people in PD being affected differently though. For me, I tried it nasally a variety of times, because yes, it is fun to snort stuff, and MXE is about the easiest thing to snort that there ever was, no burn and a small dose, and no nasty drip (MXE tastes kind of metallic to me, that's about it). But I just wasn't impressed with the effects. For me it seems much speedier but much less dissociating and magical.
 
Snorting MXE is my favorite ROA, but my GF prefers parachuting.
I usually don't do more than20 or 30 mg at a whack and then re-dose very sparingly, if at all, for a total of 90mg or so,
My GF, on the other hand usually starts with around 60 and will re-dose 2 or 3 times to my one for a total of150 or 200.
Also, I come up slowly with my peak at about an hour and I'll stay there for another 2 and still not be baseline until the 6 or 7 hour mark. She will peak in around 30 minutes and will be ready for more in an hour or two.
This is totally backwards for most drugs, but MXE is weird shit anyway.
I'm going to try a mixed IM shot of 20 or 30mg MXE mixed with 30 or 40 mg DMT and see what that does...will post results in a day or 3.
OH, does anyone like MXE and sex?
We have the most phenomenal sex on this shit...my did is like marble and the orgasms wrack me with pleasure...MXE is becoming a regular part of our sex life.
I'm 54 and she's 39 and we will have sex 3 or 4 times a day with this stuff...anyway, if you've never tried MXE and sex...TRY IT, YOU'LL LIKE IT.
 
Yeah I had sex on MXE once and it was really good, pretty much like you describe (except my ex-wife, who it was with, was not on it so we just did it the once). I was on the tail end, not the peak at all. It was actually the very first time I did MXE. It was pretty much just how you describe. I'll have to try it again sometime. In general, on low to moderate doses of MXE I feel like physically I perform very well, in fact I was able to jump measurably higher, and with much less effort. MXE is a dissociative but it has very in-body properties as well, when dosed right.
 
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Xorkoth said:
in fact I was able to jump measurably higher, and with much less effort. MXE is a dissociative but it has very in-body properties as well, when dosed right.
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Yes, I'll do a small dose before going to workout and it will add 10-20 lbs. on most of my lifts...it kills my joint pain and just generally fortifies me.
 
Xorkoth said:
Weird, nasal MXE starts to hit me really fast, and oral even I can feel in 5 minutes (alerts) with an empty stomach. MXE usually peaks orally at 35-40 minutes for me and my friends as well. I wonder what causes that variance? Another PD person was saying it takes multiple hours to reach full effect orally.
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That was probably me. The particular batch I was referencing was the low-quality, sandy MXE that circulated in abundance late last year and early this year. I've recently been working with a couple of higher quality batches and finding oral/sublingual to follow a timeline closer to what you report. I'm loathe to snort things but I should probably give it one good shot -- for science. ;)

I'm really curious about that sandy MXE. Potency was roughly one half to one quarter of fluffier or crystalline white batches I have tested and seemed to produce a more stoning headspace (although to be fair, I was also smoking cannabis much more frequently back then).

I too am a little amazed at the surprising sexual enhancement MXE provides. I really wouldn't expect it from this class of drug, but at reasonable doses male sexual performance seems to be vastly improved.
 
phuckingnutz said:
Yes, I'll do a small dose before going to workout and it will add 10-20 lbs. on most of my lifts...it kills my joint pain and just generally fortifies me.
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Wait what? This REALLY interests me....on about the same level as sexual performance enhancement* :P



*obligatory "not that I need that" hahahaha
 
And here I was, swearing I wouldn't bother with dissociatives... then you all had to bring up sex! I'd be interested in trying it, just for this aspect. I've always enjoyed having sex on psychedelics, particularly LSD. But the only dissociative I've tried is DXM, which I hated so much the thought of sex couldn't have been further from my mind.
 
DXM for me makes me sick. Having sex on LSD with someone you love is one of THE BEST THINGS I COULD IMAGINE. With that being said MXE is vastly different than DXM and from my expierence Ketamine or MXE in a low sub-hole dose would bring you to a similar sexually expierence that is utterly mind bending
 
DXM and MXE are huge worlds apart. MXE is like half psychedelic half dissociative for me. It's a dissociative for sure but it's a psychedelic one. I like it way better than ketamine. It's actually one of my favorite substances, but before I tried MXE (a few times, I wasn't too into it at first), I always said I didn't care for dissociatives too.

MXE has similarities to ketamine but it has just as many differences.
 
Agreed, I was mostly trying to bring to light the differences between DXM and Ketamine/MXE/PCP(analogues)
Either way to the topic of the thread.

I have taken MXE with the following psychedelics, some with each other and some not (I do not recommend this and realize I was most likely being irresponsible even if I have reasonably extensive knowledge of psychedelics)

LSD
Ketamine
DMT
Psilocybin
2C-B
2C-I
2C-E
25I-NBOMe
DOB
DOC
MDMA
MDA
Nitrous
Marijuana
______________
other chemicals
______________
Alcohol
Cocaine
Adderall
Tobacco
(Point of this post is that I cannot write a description of every MXE combination experience if you have a specific question I will answer here or PM)

I am alive and well and I would say that MXE with any of these listed chemicals is to me considered moderately safe. This is if you know the correct dose/dosages and realize the effects combinations have that I like to call "piggy backing".
 
I've found weed to have a similar effect, which I suspect might have something to do with the mild analgesic effects as well as what I could term a slight mental dissociation from things - being high seemingly distracts me from mental failure, allowing that extra couple of reps before your limbs go to jelly :P
 
trozzle said:
I've found weed to have a similar effect, which I suspect might have something to do with the mild analgesic effects as well as what I could term a slight mental dissociation from things - being high seemingly distracts me from mental failure, allowing that extra couple of reps before your limbs go to jelly :P
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Precisely...3-meo-pcp is good for this also...no pain.
Man, gotta start a "Sex on MXE" thread...just had the mindblowingist sex on that shit...AGAIN!!!...5 or 6 mg 3-meo-pcp was definitely a plus too.
How much consensus is needed to start a "big and Dandy" thread for MXE and sex?...It affects my GF the same way...there MUST be others out there...this shit would put Viagra out of business...I Know, I used to take that shit...not any more!
My GF has cum coming out her ears tonight...if big pharma hears about this, MXE will be legal in a week.
 
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