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Dissociatives [Methoxetamine Subthread] Combinations - 2nd experiment

Can't be bothered to read through the last 16 pages, so will just say cannabis + methoxetamine = m-hole. I've experienced many a m-hole when IVing methoxetamine after smoking cannabis, similar in ways to a k-hole, as you don't know you're in one until you're coming out of it. M-holes differ from k-holes in there's no ego loss, you still have an idea who you are, just not where you are, complete confusion as your surroundings change, you can't see the room around you anymore, just the world the m-hole has created and you can't get out of it until it wears off, but you don't think of that at the time as you can't think at all, extreme confusion is a big part of it, but from talking to other methoxetamine users they agree that the cannabis adds a psychedelic edge to the m-hole, making the high a lot crazier at times.
 
Yesterday in the afternoon I insufflated a few lines of MXE (perhaps a total of around 80mg) and later a tiny line of 2C-T-7 (maybe no more than 5mg). I holed pretty hard, had some weird trip, but everything under control.

Later in the evening I did another small bump of 2C-T-7, maybe no more than 5mg. Wow, lots of OEVs and strong colors from LCD monitor, this stuff is strong and dangerous. Psychedelics are very powerful, one has to be very careful. Will give it a time, just sticking with MXE for now.
 
I have indeed experienced M holes just as ziburlude described on the previous page. They where early in my experimentation with it....the first one happened maybe the 4th time I tried MXE. It was with one single IV shot that sent me into it quickly. The other M holes have been reached the same way.


AS far as combinations MDMA + MXE, I can give some info on this as I have tried it twice. (I know this combo is considered dangerous). Both times were on the tail end of my MDMA experience after I had already peaked on around 175 mg of MDMA. It seems to smooth out the MXE trip, not as many vibrations as it comes on (always did the MXE via IV). The biggest difference the MDMA makes is the after effects of the MXE.

THe after effects of the MXE last MUCH longer and are slightly different. By differenct I mean that I can close my eyes and the visuals are totally different than when I use MXE alone. Alone the visuals are more fluid and not as psychedelic or fractalized or detailed as they are with the MDMA, in other words the visuals on the MXE comedown are much more like the visuals on the Peak of MXE but a little different in the sense that they are more peaceful, slower, not changing and morphing as quickly. It is great for the MDMA comedown as it eliminates all the anxiety and wanting more mdma and smooths your comedown perfectly. Again I know this is a dangerous combo so I hope these positive results don't make somebody be reckeless but I'm just telling the truth. If you decide to try and copy this experience, Don't do it on your MDMA peak (as I did not) and take it light with the MXE.
 
Also my experience with cocaine (crack) and MXE. The crack was smoked during the after glow of MXE, maybe 4 or 5 hours after a strong IV dose. The coke was VERY strong and very pleasurable, almost like the first time doing it and lasted much much longer per hit of crack than normal.
 
I just tried MXE, MDA, 2-CB and phenibut. All I can say is holy shit! Dosed about 40 mg MXE, about 20 minutes later took a blue monster which contains around 70-80 mg of MDA, snorted about 5 mg 2-CB and took a gram of phenibut mixed with cayenne pepper all at once. At first nothing special, just minor effects from the 2C-B and MDA, so I took another blue monster and snorted another 3 mg of 2C-B, and when this came on with the phenibut, I was in heaven. Better than MDMA. It felt like I was tripping on a high dose of acid and having the best possible time. I had no idea I could get off on MDA this way. Fucking amazing!
 
Still reading through this whole thread, at the end I feel I should get a certificate that says 'congratulations you now know everything about MXE combinations'
My absolute best combination experience was with about 2 grams of cubensis mushrooms, 25 mg before the sh rooms and another 25 after I started feeling them.
Took once on 25i-NBOMe, also taken with aspirin and cannabis. The 25i was having a bit of a rough time until the weed and mxe smoothed it out, from there I was sailing for a good 6 hours. A very unique trip.
I used to be pretty heavy user of opiates. At my deepest I would IV H and MXE at the same time. That was incredible, but I don't recommend it to anyone. These days if I IV anything it is only MXE alone.
4-fa does not mix well with MXE unless the MXE is taken after the seratogenic aspect of the 4-fa wears off, at least 4 hours, and do a lower dose than normal.
LSD and MXE I've tried a few times, but I think it was only real clean LSD once, and that time was absolutely wonderful, but don't try to do anything other than stare in complete amazement.
 
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Ended up doing 25mg MXE and 3g Maeng da+1.5g Red Vein Kratom and 0.5mg Pyrazolam in capsules on fairly full stomach, and smoked some cannabis.


Took half the Kratom first, waited 30 minutes, then dropped the remaining Kratom, Pyrazolam and the MXE.

Waited about 30 minutes from initial drop before feeling the first hint, and about 20-30 minute after that i felt the second drop, which were all in full effect in about 1.25-2 hours after first drop.

Was 2.5 hours in when i smoked a small/regular joint with about 0.2g very good hash,
and now i'm writing this, and been wanting to take a shower just to feel the drops on my skin..

Would describe the feeling as dreaming while awake, but aware of the whole situation, and good feelings running through my body with i nice body load, but not "heavy".
Feel like maybe the MXE's "robotic enchantment", together with the cannabis creates a floating sensation that allows me to "float" around on my feet very easily, or just sit down and chill with my mind floating all over the place, in a good way, and no negative thoughts!

I usually crave sigarettes all the time too, but now i feel it could be nice to light one, but wont bother because i already feel so good and chilled out!
Would like to add i feel like i'm writing this to YOU, whoever you are, if that makes sense..?:P
Maybe some empathy going on..? Don't know right now.. hehe:P

Now i'm going to take the shower, and possibly go to bed and sleep well through the night afterwards
Good night, and over and out for today! (I think:P)
 
Hi folks, looking for a smooth combination to get back to initial effect on MXE. Any suggestions? Dont wanna anything fucked up like MXE+apb (sorry to say it s way too crazy for me).
 
4-AcO-DMT/mxe was a great combo. Insufflating 30mgs of 4-AcO after doing ~100mgs of mxe through out the day brought on some insanely intricate CEV's ranging from an infinite amount of morphing Aztec like fractals to kaleidoscope like patterns filled with the autism awareness puzzle pieces. I also had some of the best music appreciation I've ever experienced during a trip, I listened to the album A Color Map of the Sun by Pretty Lights for the first time and was completely astonished. The mxe seemed to eliminate all of the usual anxiety I experience while coming up on tryptamines. Next week I'm planning on combining mxe and 4-HO-MET. I get very nervous while coming up on 4-ho-met, hopefully the mxe will combat my anxiety.

I was wondering if DOC and mxe would be a dangerous combination? I didn't think I saw anything about DOC on the first page but I have some concerns since DOC is an amphetamine.
 
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Thank u but I am not a big fan of the mind alteration of tryptamines. For DOC combination I have read that some people have tried to combine 2CB to MXE and that MXE experience was somehow boosted. It might work the same was as DOC and 2C are quiet close but I wuld be worry of the long lasting effect of it.
 
I didn't enjoy 4-AcO-DMT and MXE, but I think that's partly because of my ridiculous MXE tolerance, I need 200mg+ MXE to get even very mild psychedelic effects, negative effects like feeling stupid dominate. So it was an unpleasant combo for me, although 4-AcO-DMT on it's own is pretty amazing.
 
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I've used mxe with zopiclone a number of times and I can say that for the most part it's a safe mixture. There was further respiratory depression and slowed motor control when compared to mxe alone. Unique to the mixture was the experience of true hallucinations similar to deliriant hallucinations. I would see people and objects materialize from nothing, so this might be dangerous if taken while out and about.
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Zopiclone & MXE is funny as hell. Going into larger doses can get too wacky and delirious, but I like my Z+MXE in low doses too.
There's a kind of positive, cheerful vibe to it, absolutely no anxiety or fear about anything. Pleasant feelings. Funny fun fun.
 
I have a relatively high tolerance to MXE and to disassociatives in general, but I've found some pleasurable combinations with the substance:

~MXE + 6-APB or 5-APB: 90-150mg of 6-APB and 20-50mg of MXE taken together works nicely, or dosing 100+mgs of MXE at the tail end of the of the 5 or 6 APB experience. Increased euphoria and CEV's for both substances, mixing the MXE in at the beginning of the 5-APB experience caused a noticable raise in body temp. (1-3°F).

~MXE + kratom: mixing 5-12g kratom (depending on tolerance and desired effect) with an 'average' MXE dose, caused synergistic increase in the pleasuable effects of both substances. Provided a fantastic launch-pad for meditation.

~MXE + 4 sub tryptamines: I, personally, enjoy taking full doses of both compounds (Obviously different for everyone, I would suggest working up to this, as confusion may be experinced by some due to the MXE). I find that both OEV'S & CEV'S are wildly increased, with a fantastic sensitivity to music. I also find that the analgesic activity of the MXE greatly helps with any pain or stiffness caused by the incresed muscle tension of the tryptamines (4-HO-MiPT, in particular, causes me a great deal of muscle tension, which I do not want to use benzodiazepines to treat, as it reduces the tryptamine effects.) I've had wonderful experiences using MXE with 4 substituted DMT, DET, MET, & MiPT.

~MXE + dexedrine: using small doses of dextro-amphetamine (3-7mgs) at the tail end of MXE or even during the experience can greatly increase euphoria and allow for greater mental clarity during the experience. I will only do this using dextro-amphetamine, as using Adderall or racemic amphetamine can cause anxiety, hypertension, and increased body temperature, which does not seem to occur as drastically using the dextro-rotary isomer.

~Using MXE with cannabis greatly increases the effects of both substances and allows one to "hole" with greater ease and lower dosages. It also greatly synergises with any of the above combinations and, for me, greatly reduces any nausea experienced during the course of a dose.
 
poormansvacation said:
~MXE + 4 sub tryptamines: I, personally, enjoy taking full doses of both compounds (Obviously different for everyone, I would suggest working up to this, as confusion may be experinced by some due to the MXE). I find that both OEV'S & CEV'S are wildly increased, with a fantastic sensitivity to music. I also find that the analgesic activity of the MXE greatly helps with any pain or stiffness caused by the incresed muscle tension of the tryptamines (4-HO-MiPT, in particular, causes me a great deal of muscle tension, which I do not want to use benzodiazepines to treat, as it reduces the tryptamine effects.) I've had wonderful experiences using MXE with 4 substituted DMT, DET, MET, & MiPT.
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Indeed, this is fun guaranteed ! You could relieve or even enjoy the muscle tension with hatha yoga. Might be worth checking out !
 
Mxe + mushrooms (or similar tryptamine) is a really fun combination. It feels like great synergy and you can get into a much deeper trip without having to take anywhere near as much of either. I imagine it would be fun to take with LSD as well.

I tried mxe+2ce+4-ho-met plugged and it was too confusing to remember much of. Took it and lay down and only really remember parts of it. It was more like being asleep and dreaming than a real trip.

I always avoid mdma+mxe. Had side effects every time (tried maybe 3 times before I really made the connection with what the cause was). Friend got gives all over his body the next day after doing it. Mxe and stimulants tends to produce uncomfortable body load
 
thickskin said:
I always avoid mdma+mxe. Had side effects every time (tried maybe 3 times before I really made the connection with what the cause was). Friend got gives all over his body the next day after doing it. Mxe and stimulants tends to produce uncomfortable body load
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I've dosed mdma and mxe twice. First time was intentional, second time was unintentional; I'd been sold a heroin/mdma blend (I knew it was a blend) but forget about the presence of the mdma. whoops!

like being sucked into an existential vortex
 
I've been working on another batch of Datura stramonium alkaloid extract paste (and an alcohol solution {wine lol}), and I wanna go camping in the steppe deserts soon. Aside from any speculation on the 'fun' factor here (nobody seems to like Datura and deleriants here anyway), are there any potential adverse physiological effects readily apparent to anyone?


Also, MXE infused wine??
 
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a quick google search reveals that scopolamine is sometimes used as an adjunct with ketamine anti-depressant therapy. that's in much smaller doses than you'll be using though, i'm sure.

i hope you have a trip sitter!
 
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I've been working on another batch of Datura stramonium alkaloid extract paste (and an alcohol solution {wine lol}), and I wanna go camping in the steppe deserts soon. Aside from any speculation on the 'fun' factor here (nobody seems to like Datura and deleriants here anyway), are there any potential adverse physiological effects readily apparent to anyone?


Also, MXE infused wine??
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Hydration would be my biggest worry for the combo. Also, hyperthermia and increased heart rate/blood pressure are possibilities, not necessarily to worrisome levels, but watch yourself nonetheless.

The datura paste thing sounds familiar, have you posted about it in one of our deliriant threads? If so I need to look that up.

MXE should dissolve fine in wine.
 
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