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Dissociatives [Methoxetamine Subthread] Combinations - 2nd experiment

MXE has combined well with everything I've combined it with basically.
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I concur. The notable exception was cannabis or cannabinoids - although that really just seems to come down to the individual person.

As a vague rule, I think combos tend to go better if MXE is the substance taken first and given some time to settle in. Then, if you're in a good place and it's integrated you can try adding something else.

That's not a hard and fast thing, of course. I just find that taking MXE after or during something else (especially psychedelics) is dicey because it can potentiate things and you can quickly find yourself shooting into the cosmos.

A more solid rule, I would think, is that you generally want to keep the dose of MXE smaller when combining it than when taking it by itself.

In my case, if I combo weed and MXE, the amount of either of those has to be tiny because - for me - the increase in pure mind blowing psychedelic confusion is enormous. It's too much to handle in general, so I don't do it.

A few great combos I've had:

-4-AcO-DMT and MXE (this was one case where taking the MXE during the come up of the 4aco actually helped turn the trip in a very positive direction and extended it's duration - this was a winning combo on numerous occasions)

-3-MeO-PCP and MXE: simply incredible*, enormously energetic and euphoric, lucid-dream like states, and memory recall (and memory re-enactment, I mean I relived past moments as if they were happening and I was able to direct the situations)

-virtually any opiate and MXE: opioids/opiates taken on the tail end of a mid to large MXE session can feel nearly double their usual strength. If you take both at the same time, keep the MXE dose low or else it'll override the opiate subtle experience

-alcohol and MXE: I don't really enjoy alcohol anymore, and as I get older I suffer horrible hangovers. The wonderful thing about MXE with a drink, is that a SMALL amount of BOTH substances (really, go slow and keep it small because the potential to get completely fucked up unconscious is huge) allows me to enjoy alcohol's effects for about a quarter of the amount. To me, after a small to moderate dose of MXE, two standard glasses of beer feels like six glasses - but I don't have to suffer a hangover the next day :)

*DISCLAIMER: I had to think twice before adding the 3-MeO-PCP one, because this is NOT a safe combination, or one that is recommended for anyone who is not well-versed in both psychedelics and dissociatives. I mentioned the euphoric experiences, but I've also had two extremely frightening experiences on this combo. It is a very, very powerful combination and must be taken seriously. NEVER re-dose on that combo, even when you feel the effects are pretty much done for the day. NEVER eyeball the amounts of either substance in that combo. If you're mentally fragile or just not sure about it - DON'T DO IT.
 
Halif said:
*DISCLAIMER: I had to think twice before adding the 3-MeO-PCP one, because this is NOT a safe combination, or one that is recommended for anyone who is not well-versed in both psychedelics and dissociatives. I mentioned the euphoric experiences, but I've also had two extremely frightening experiences on this combo. It is a very, very powerful combination and must be taken seriously. NEVER re-dose on that combo, even when you feel the effects are pretty much done for the day. NEVER eyeball the amounts of either substance in that combo. If you're mentally fragile or just not sure about it - DON'T DO IT.
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Gonna figure that one out for myself this week. Someone told me not to attempt to m-hole after 3-meo, would you agree?
Asante:
MXE + psychs has lead to the best drug experiences of my life. Infinite, colorful, with story lines like tripping in dreams. Highly recommended for one who seeks intense states. Best results have been with phens, but I tend to have bad luck with trypts other than shrooms so ymmv.
MXE + 2C-E is my personal favorite. Normal oral 2C-E isn't very interesting for me. Until I've eatten 50mg+ I don't get past a light ++. Getting there is a sickly and uncomfortable business. Might be me might be my batch don't know. But 5-10mg 2C-E cut into a average sized line of MXE when I'm already up, but far from a hole leads to: Fractals and fine art everywhere, a good heavy body high, and possibly I'll split my mind all up and tell myself a neat story.
MXE + 25C is also quite alright, though the 25c dose has to be close to normal .5mg for me. The nasty body load isn't a problem, just adds visuals to the head trip in pleasing colors. If it didn't neuter my ability to trip for months after I'd like it a whole lot.
MXE + 4-ho-MET interesting, I should do it again sometime I have not touched 25C in many months, felt very ancient and tribal.
 
Achten said:
Anyone who has tried MXE (5-10mg) as a small booster after the initial peak of 25CNBOME (250-300mcg) has passed ?
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Double post I'm sorry. I find it's best if you take the 25C when you are already humming along nicely on MXE, makes the 25C comeup much, much nicer.
 
Achten said:
Anyone who has tried MXE (5-10mg) as a small booster after the initial peak of 25CNBOME (250-300mcg) has passed ?
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I have done MXE before and after ingesting about ~450ug 25C-NBOMe and found that they synergized together very well. I agree with GolemGolem, that MXE helps smooth the come-up into the psychedelic experience which can provoke a lot of anxiety for some. It would almost certainly help with any comedown of sorts. The doses I took after the peak, which were around 20-25mg (I had an appreciable tolerance at the time) seemed to smooth things out and get me in a very introspective and dreamy state yet with a sociable mindset and appreciation that things "just are". I'd say go for it, especially if you're fond of MXE in general.
 
I probably already wrote this but :
MXE - cannabis : don't like it, make me feel bad even if not a bad trip
MXE 30mg - kratom : very good, MXE really potentiate the kratom, nice high not too invalidating
MXE 50mg - speed (MXE was taken 45 min after speed, ie mxe kicked when the "speed flash" was ending) : had a very fun moment on the dancefloor

Generally I take MXE with a bit of alcohol or benzo. Not that the combo is interesting, it's just because I'm paranoid and alcohol and especially benzo counteract the supposed neurotoxicity of dissociative. It's too for confort, cool to dring a beer waiting the mxe to kick.
 
Mxe + cannanoids = anxiety mess

thought i was going to die but the mXe gave me the confidence to roll through it... did it a few more times with more enjoyment but still super synergy that is almost scary

mXe + alcohol = fun time (club drug)
mXe + gabapentin = bliss (opiate feeling)
mXe + lunesta = blackout (forget)
mXe + weed = FUN (relaxing)
mXe + NO2 = FUN (mind implosion)
 
This weekend I tried 25mg MXE orally and half an hour later added 0.6gr dried mushrooms. Wonderful yoga session !
 
Asante said:
What are your doses like, individually vs combined? Is there a generalm ratio which works best for you like "half doses of each" or is it more drug specific?
Particularly interested in your experiences with psilocin, LSD and Mescaline + MXE as those are the most established drugs of their class.
Can you shed some light on the nature of the experience?
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It depends what i'm looking for really. If i'm in the mood to be flung really far then i'll keep the doses in nearly the same realm as when I do MXE alone. Generally though I IM anywhere from 40-120mgs alone and usually in combo dependent on current tolerance I almost always shot for 60-80mgs as it will either be a hole dose or close enough. It can also be more chemical specific for sure, with Mescaline, LSD, or the synth psilocin, I always shot high except for the first dose on the synth psilocin because I was a bit weary of that one. With those three i'll almost always shoot for 75-120mgs as I find they go together like peanut butter and jelly in a sense. They just seem to meld extremely well and there aren't any real bumps on the road. The experiences at those doses on those chems are a bit difficult to describe really as I usually dose high with each of them including MXE but I always liken it to being flung into the universe and just traveling the cosmos for a bit. In reality though, usually and especially with those three, CEV's begin to resemble real life scenes played out with eyes closed, it can even become hard to know unless I focus which one i'm currently viewing. The OEV's can be wild as well, both sets of visuals at a certain point will begin to resemble themes from my life, such as hiking in nature or even in the most extreme cases memories from my life, though that one is a bit rarer. As far as feelings go, I feel pretty much as perfected as I believe a person could really feel. I'm not one to really fall into excessive mania or delusion unless I combine MXE with a higher end dose of 3-MeO-PCP, but at times its hard to deny that I feel like i've reached some elevated state of being, I wouldn't say "God" as that's reserved for 3-MeO-PCP plus MXE in the extremes but I certainly feel as if i've reached some new state of being. Then there is usually that underlying feeling of being connected to things and other people, especially so with Mescaline.

I can't believe I also forgot DPT in that list, just like with ketamine, this feels like "God's" gift in terms of combos, it just has a heavenly and extremely novel/exotic sense to it. At higher doses it can absolutely destroy me, but I absolutely love it and have never entered anything edgy or the like on it. Note though that many people find DPT to have sinister vibrations whilst i've never felt anything like that. IM DiPT+DPT+MXE was totally out of this world, I felt like I was having the most pleasurable electric tingles being sent through my body hundreds of times a minute causing me to writhe in a feeling of pure ecstasy. I also had tons of fun combining it with DOC, 2c-B, 2c-I, 4-MeO-PCP, MDMA, 6-APDB, MET, 2c-P, 2c-T-2, Pregablin, O-Demsmethyltramadol, and 4-AcO-MiPT. If I wasn't so experienced I would probably definitely lower the doses but as is and mainly always has been I love kicking in the outer realms rather than the inner, also I personally find MXE to be highly anxiolytic. Hope that Helps?!?. ;)
 
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Can anyone guess what the effect would be if I had taken 50mg of armodafinil in the morning+ a few mg aniracetam and then Id take a small testing dose of my new bag of MXE in the evening?
I guess probably not but maybe somebody knows if its dangerous with the modafinil and its long half life.
 
weed and mxe is just retarded, I can't understand how anyone could find this enjoyable. Like it literally makes me what I imagine being mentally retarded must be like. but also with panic attacks.
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I found this to be good clean fun, with very heavy, very amusing auditory flanging, and clearer headed than an equi-intoxicating dose of ketamine. But no, I won't be writing any award-winning articles on this combo. ;)

ebola
 
How well does LSD combine with MXE? I have a lot of experience with LSD as well as psychedelics in general but none with dissociates other than DXM so I don't know what I'd be in for really but I have a bit of both.
 
sean107 said:
How well does LSD combine with MXE? I have a lot of experience with LSD as well as psychedelics in general but none with dissociates other than DXM so I don't know what I'd be in for really but I have a bit of both.
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amazing if the mXe is taken just after the LSD peak... in my experience : )
 
From your post it sounds like you may not have tried MXE yet since you say your only dissociative experience is with DXM. If this is the case you should really test the waters with MXE a couple times atleast if not a few first. LSD and MXE is absolutely astonishing but extremely powerful!
 
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