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Dissociatives [Methoxetamine Subthread] Combinations - 2nd experiment

Well I've combined low dose LSD and MXE before and it was pretty awesome combo. But I want to have a more heavy trip this time around. I imagine 4-aco-dmt is in order. Anybody with experience with the combo, or in just combining any dissociatives and tryptamines, what order do you like to dose them in? Start off getting a little lifted on mxe, and then drop the aco, or vice versa?

4-aco-dmt and mxe is an awesome combo! I don't remember my exact dosage of mxe, but it was enough to hole for a little bit and I snorted it around 4 hours after dosing 23 mg of 4-aco-dmt. I experienced an m-hole that was quite different from just mxe by itself. Usually the CEV's are just swirling patterns and such but with the tryptamine added everything was intensely colorful. It was a very surreal dreamlike state and I felt I couldn't really control the visuals; random scenes and images would appear in my head and then get replaced by something just as strange/random. I remember seeing patterns images of bottles (of alcohol?) and being in a room full of bottles and just thinking why the fuck am I seeing this right now? It was a strange but fun combination. I'd like to try coming up on both at the same time (snorting both in 1 line), although I can imagine it being pretty intense. Or perhaps doing a small bump of MXE before the 4-aco, to allieviate the rapid come up feelings of snorting 4-aco.
 
I must add that in retrospect my trip in my head was not awesome at all with the MXE + 2C-D kombo, I was infact having the worst bad trip in my life. As I lost control over my body I was swirled into loops of agony on my inside, as what I have been told happened on the outside is starting to match what happened on the inside of me. I was constanly trapped in agonizing loops of pain inside which I had no control of and I kept dying in several different processes. I do not want anyone to experience this, and I do not really know why anyone would like to experience this pain.

So losing the control of your brain atleast for me was not something I enjoyed after all, I infact enjoyed mostly that I got back in reality with the experience. Maby DMT lovers will find it nice and have better control but also I read above from "whataboutheforests" that the MXE experience is different so maby DMT lovers should be careful aswell with higher doses of MXE, I do not recommend this at all for anyone as the exerience could be horrible!

Im guessing there are more inhibitors in MXE than we know of, seems it's blocking reuptake of on alot of things in the brain. Be careful! Looks to me that >50mg MXE is the MAX kombo dose for this compound to be safe, after 75mg you are on your own - after 150mg you are sure to be in trouble do not do this.

Today I feel better, my cooridnation is not in top shape and my body feels like it good a good beating. Im hoping my coordination is back on track soon as I use the keyboard alot, but it looks like it will be ok.
 
I've had awesome experiences with MXE and etizolam. If I mix just 1 mg of etizolam with say, 40 mg plugged MXE, I will have a very intense OBE (I guess this is the M-hole?)

These experiences have very vivid and involved CEV's, and it usually involves visiting alien cities and interacting with entities. I'll often feel as though I'm someone else. For example, one time I felt as though I were a member of the opposite sex. Another time I felt as though I were Japanese, and all of my thoughts were in Japanese (or at least were perceived as Japanese, since I don't speak the language).

What is so weird is that I can take about twice the dose (80 mg plugged) and not have an OBE, and have very simplistic CEV's (unless mixed with pot). These usually consist of sparkling white lights. My body will go completely numb, but I won't feel as though I've left my body.

This seems very strange to me because etizolam should reduce the psychedelic effects of MXE. I'm wondering if anyone else has had similar experiences. My guess is that since etizolam is a hypnotic, it increases the dreamy qualities of MXE, which lends itself to very intense OBE's.

I've also tried this combo with 4-AcO-DMT, which produced a very strong, DMT-like breakthrough. This is also very strange to me, since etizolam and 4-AcO-DMT alone, without MXE, usually ends the trip in about ten minutes.

Has anyone else noted a strange synergy with MXE and etizolam?
 
Do you guys take benzo's before or after MXE? My weird synergy experiences have happened when I took the etizolam before the MXE.

If I take etizolam about four or five hours after dosing MXE, it will kill the trip in about ten minutes. If I take it during the peak effects, then the etizolam doesn't seem to have any effect unless I take 4+ mg (although I only had to do this once, when I plugged MXE thinking it was M1. I love MXE, but I wasn't at all in the mood that day, and I was really caught of guard by the radically different effects based on what I was expecting).
 
WHoaaa Mxe + 4-ho-met was intense, one of my favorite trips Ive ever been on. Makes me want to combine it with some other tryptamines now. My dosages were maybe a little high for a first time combination (13 4-ho-met, 90 methoxetamine), so it was a bit more intense than i was expecting, but it was never really uncontrollable or scary. Within seconds of laying down and putting on my headphones I had no conception that I was a human being at all or of anything other than the experience but it was simply so awesome.

The 4-ho-met added visuals to the methoxetamine headspace in a way I had no idea would happen. I felt like i was in a futuristic world, had visions of the future, etc. I was also surprised how much it changed my perception of the actual world when i got up to take a piss, I was fairly confused (possibly only downside) and the dimensions of my house were extremely distorted, I could walk down a fairly long hallway in a step or two. Also for some reason when I got out of bed I had to turn in circles to be able to navigate to my bathroom, it was entirely out of my control, it was simply the only way to traverse.

Cant wait to do it again, though no clue how soon that will happen. Also cant wait to try some methoxetamine combinations with other psychedelics. I thought I was totally over methoxetamine but this really gave it a lot more things I want to see out of it. Unfortunately my only other tryptamine at the moment is DPT and i dunno how much i want to dive into that, as I have never tried it by itself, and I am scared of it.

Anyway tryptamines + methoxetamine is a great combo, like everyone has been saying.
 
I just want to update my earlier comment with the MXE + 2C-D accident that it was in retrospect a powerful m-hole I was thrown into, this m-hole was not the same as other m-holes though as it contained full 3D environments like here on earth, knock on wood furniture if you know what I mean together with the energized seismic rooms of the ordinary m-hole.

Seemed like my brain had shut off memories of earlier m-holes for some reason, mainly because of the comedown from the trip itself which I really hate on MXE, I do have to stop drinking when doing MXE as it's pretty awefull. Last night I almost slipped into an m-hole again, and the when it happened it suddenly came back to me this strange sensation... Stronger and stronger and when almost sliding into the hole I managed to get myself onto my feet and fight myself out of the hole as I did not want to go in again. When the MXE was out, it all came back to me as I remembered theese states, several years of experience inside theese holes popped back into my head. I asked myselv - where the fuck am I - am I on this planet at all... What have I dont the last year? Mindblowing trip this byitself, MXE is one powerful drug.

In short, be careful when sniffing 50+ amounts of MXE during the evening and relax - as a relaxing state combined with 50+ snorts opens up vortexes that sucks you into the hole where you may stay for a long long time depending on how much MXE you taken during the night.

I might need to be a little more careful with my stuff from now on as I do understand I have been slipping into surreal worlds way more often than I was aware of... Weird, just weird. I do love the m-holes though, they are insanely great - I will be doing this one again in a while without the 2C-D as I am ready for another powertrip into that universe alone!
 
sooo I got a little bit reckless a week or two ago

started the day with 10mg ritalin at about 1:30 pm

took 40mg MXE at 5:00

and 38mg 2cb at 6:00


I wasn't aware that ritalin and MXE are not to be mixed, and when I was trying to go to sleep that night I had some numbness in my fingers that I assume was due to vasoconstriction.

I hate getting freaked out about vasoconstriction because there have been people who have had to have fingers/toes cut off because of it i'm pretty sure.

luckily I woke up fine the next morning but I just wanted to warn everyone not to mix ritalin and MXE
 
MXE + Gabapentin
Smooth and relaxing. The gabapentin mutes the 'trippiness' but I still get the immersion/fascination and mood boost from the MXE. If you dislike the mania of MXE, you will probably enjoy this combo.
I tried MXE with gabapentin and amphetamines (2-FMA, and Adderall), and if indeed gabapentin lightly tamps down the mania of this combo then the amphetamines work with gaba to thwack it back up, hard. I've not tried just gaba and MXE, but I have tried just MXE and amps and the addition of gaba to the two of them was one hell of a high. I took a lot of gaba, 3.2 g in 400mg segments over about three hours at pretty regular intervals (the staggering method for getting more out of gaba works for me). I was also sneaking in two or three low to moderate doses of MXE (~15 mg RA) and amphetamines (~10mg RA) during that three hour period. But damn, I was smashed, and I don't usually go for "smashed," but it was great. I don't usually feel much from anything the next morning either but the next day I woke up with some undeniable buzz still going. My motor coordination during the high was like walking on stilts, but goddamn did I feel awesome. The mania was hard charging but self-aware, erratic but still. I felt kind of stupid trying to do some things like type or talk, but the confidence and euphoria was always raging like a wreath of fire around me. It was a lot of fun, though I should say I'd estimate my heartbeat was probably around 105bpm just sitting on the couch (my normal resting heatbeat is around 70). I know how unreliable gabapentin can be on repeated doses so I'm going to wait a few weeks before trying this again.

Towards the end of the experience, while I was trying to go to sleep, I was getting a species of closed eye visual I've never seen before -- bright, electric, and bouncy. They made me laugh. Even during a nap the next day they were still sort of there in the periphery of sleep.
 
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Hello.

Anyone tried Etaqualone on tail end of Methoxetamine experience and how good/bad was it ? Is it safe?
 
Iv been thinking of mixing my MXE with some cubensis mushrooms. I'm curious if starting with about 25mg's MXE would be good to ease into roughly 1.5g's of strong mushrooms? I'm some what experienced with mushrooms and am getting a good feel for MXE.. I"m confident that I'll be Ok but, is there any specifics as to why i shouldn't combo them? What about LSD too?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks ahead of time -Giddy ''B''
 
MXE Combos Safe?

I was considering combining 80mg mxe with an unknown dose of 2C-C-NBOMe or an unknown dose of 4-HO-MET. I've never combined psychedelics before, unless u count weed lol. I was just making sure there would be no adverse reactions before i bought the 2 latter chemicals. Which do you think would have the best synergies? I was thinking shrooms are colorful, metocin must be too and colors + mxe = droool :P. But then again i've heard that the phenethylamine class is legendary, so idk. Maybe i should try both combos, since i can afford it.

On another note, i've never had much of a good trip on tryptamines so perhaps it'd be better to go with the 2c-c derivative... Any thoughts, professional advice, etc. would be appreciated.

P.S. Just to clarify, the goal of creating this thread is to find a suitable drug to enhance an m-hole. I had an amazing m-hole last time, it was just so overwhelming and the visuals had a grungy quality to them. everything looked like it was from a post-apocalyptic film. i essentially just want the reality i enter to have a bit more positive of vibes
 
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MXE plus psilocin analogues has been done before and is a fairly well traveled road, I would slightly reduce your MXE dose though.

MXE plus the NBOMes is much less well 'studied' but I know a few people who like arylcyclohexylamines and LSD - so maybe it's worth a go.
 
Thanks lol. But thats my golden mxe dose though lol. 30 was mainly a body high. 50 was good for amazing CEV's, insightfulness and a kind of social experience later on. and 80 mg took me straight into the hole, i wasn't nauseous, the comedown was a bit severe but the experience was great. maybe my first go with metocin i would try lower doses but eventually i'd wanna work up to 80mg mxe and 25mg psilocin.

Anybody else have info on the NBOMes?
 
mxe and nbomes can be combined, but be cautious with the doses on each. The lovely thing with MXE is that you can easily up your dose every 45minutes to get the desired effect, so start low, perhaps 10mg. It will likely be potentiated by the nbome, and vice-versa. If after 45 min you feel like it has plateaued safely and you can handle more, add the next 10-15mg.
 
i found ~20mg bumps of mxe while on 4 aco dmt to be quite enjoyable

Me too. I really like this combination. Two of my favourite substances, and they have always played nice together for me.
 
mxe + 4-ho-met is an insanely nice combo! I've tried it once but would definately like to repeat it.. They synergize very well those two
 
last night I tried some kratom tea for the first time, it had about 7 grams in it.

I then snorted 25mg mxe and smoked some bong rips

I was incredibly stoned, I took a walk and was just obviously very very high so I went back to my house and listened to music and took a few more bumps of mxe and went into 'mind movies' or 'dreamstates' or 'visions' for like 45 minutes.

I was very dissociated and I could only open one eye but it was pretty fucking awesome just listening to music and playing video games in my head, Until at one point I became molten glass.

I have been taking glassblowing this semester and all the sudden I felt myself as the glass and going through the process of being in a furnace then having bubbles blown inside of me and crazy stuff like that it was great.

I wish I would have been able to smoke some dmt on this combo but it was absolutely great as is.

edit: I should note that I've never once done an opiate before, and that I have no craving for one now, and that although I may have noticed a little difference in breathing it didn't seem unsafe. I'm pretty sure the kratom added a lot to the peculiarity and strength of the mind movies.
 
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