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What dickhead, shout him a burn and he dobs u in wtf? ^^ should have told the bosses he was a crackhead too
 
canberracrack said:
This drug has me by the balls. i can't quit and I've accepted the fact I'm not so slowly going insane. Ive stopped swirling so goddamn much at once, and been taking valiums both to sleep and to ward off psychosis. But still I'm losing it. Work is the worst because i absolutely cannot work unless I'm tweaked, but my shifts go for 6-8 hours so i have to smoke a fair bit before work to stay going the whole time, which= psychosis. Im pretty close to losing my job I've been acting weird as, boss is all over it. Ive been bringing the pipe and regularly ducking to the toliet to blow a cloud and come back. getting on everyones nerves. Ive had to try so hard to keep it together and not lose my shit at work which I've managed to do so far but its been hard and like i said they are all suss on me.

No work til saturday night though which is alright. The toll this drug takes on your body is horrendous. I try and look after myself eat as much as i can etc but i still look like I've aged like ten years since start of 2013. I'm only 22 almost 23 ffs. When i started getting into the ice most weekends/almost everyday around end of 2012, i was 82-83kg, went gym reasonably often, fairly fit not fat at all. Now i weigh 70kg :O. Its flipping ridiculous. Im 6 foot 2 so I'm pretty fucking skinny. Always got circles around my eyes, shitty skin with pimples and i just look plain fucked to be honest.

I end up eating only like once a day if that. Try eat some fruit and stuff but its hard to have full big meals when your tweaked as fuck mostly just stuff like noodles, biscuits, sandwiches etc

Plus my teeth are starting to look pretty bad too. yellow as and some are hurting and starting to die. cigarettes and cones dont help this either though.
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Dude. You really should lay off it. If you feel you can't go see a doctor and see if you can get a referal to an addiction specialist.

As for working 6-8 hours without shard...of course you can do that. Get a few days sleep, you will be able to do it no problem. It will probably seem a lot more boring and time will drag but hey welcome to work for everyone else. I've never taken ice at work and regularly work over 8 hours a day - so does nearly everyone else.

The way I see it. If you keep getting tweaked at work, someone will notice and then you'll lose your job. If you are using at work you are really upping the chances of it happening.

As for the benzos helping your psychosis, they might be calming you down but they aren't actually stopping the psychosis. What you need is to lay off ice and sober up. Get some sleep, eat and rest. I would be pretty certain it will resolve itself. If not, you need to go see a doctor who can give you anti-psychotics and refer you to a psychiatrist.

Watch out for the benzos too. Take it from me, benzo addiction and withdrawal is no fucking joke. You think coming off meth is hard, try coming of benzos. You will be a shaking, panicky mess who can't sleep and is ultra sensitive to sound and light. This is with a taper too. Quit whilst you are ahead and stop before you become physically dependent on them. It only took me a little over a month of daily use to get addicted and stopping them (with a taper) was very unpleasant.
 
As for my own ice use. I managed to stop without too many problems. I had some strong cravings for a few days (however I was just being heavy weekend user) and particularly on last Friday. However, they passed and I feel much better for not doing any.

I've just had to make a few small lifestyle changes. Firstly, I've gotten back into martial arts which makes me feel great and lets me focus my energies on something. It also involves me being in decent shape physically. I couldn't do it if I was coming down.

Secondly, I have avoided alcohol and going to parties where my friends may be using drugs (which is most parties they go to). Although most don't use ice, the temptation if I get drunk will be strong. I think for the next couple of weeks I'll just catch up with them sober or if I do drink, make it over a few beers and dinner on a weeknight.

I think I will use it again but only for special occasions like my birthday. It's nice to have now and then but when using it each weekend and binging over the weekend it becomes a very expensive headfuck. Plus the comedowns are horrible.

I've felt really good these last two weeks.
 
methyldreams said:
Meth fucks you up cause this block was 100% straight before he started dealing and seen how low females go for drugs, This was his reason he told me that he turned by-sexual. I said of course your only gonna meet crack whores when you do what you do. He just replies and say's how am I meant to find a nice girl when I do this...

I'v offered ideas for him to find straight girls but his not really as keen as he says cause he still does nothing different.. It got me wondering though how many guys would let a drug dealer suck them off for drugs. I can't understand it! I hear people give head, take it up the arse who knows for drugs.... idk but that's the time your truly drug fucked when you start trading your body for drugs
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Meth makes you gay! :) lol

(bit off topic)

Seriously though, sexual orientation is fluid. The lines can get blurred, even for someone who considers themselves 100% straight. This happens without drugs too - the situation, person of affection, time in persons life can all influence it.

These things aren't 100% fixed. The meth could have made him hyper-sexual, combined with you being a challenge/unobtainable tipped the scales. I'm betting you don't have super strong masculine features.

IMO everyone is probably potentially able to go 'gay'. From talking with people on the issue they usually have their main orientation coming through while quite young - straight/gay/bi (some will still have lots of trouble labeling it) Tons of heterosexuals will end up having same-sex experiences. In my job I've worked with people that have massive conflicts over the whole thing - essentially 'oh noes duz this maek me teh gayz?!?' I guess I'd probably get lots of clients with fears on masturbation if it were the 1800's. People/society just need to try and chill on the whole thing.
 
methyldreams said:
@ ThatOneDude!
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bro dont stress. PM me if you like. I'v danced with the devil many of times and have immensly enjoyed it, just dont let him get full control
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Right on bro, apprecaite it! ive always felt in control so to speak, to a point of unknowingly letting myself be fuked! that shit will mess with brain chemistry in ways i dont fully understand! Been off for almost a week? i dont even know, at first i felt a lil' bit mentally unstable/AGITATED! definitly amplified my psychotic-ness. i ALSO noticed relentless fatigue!! like after tons of sleep, i'll be up and about, maybe even DRIVING! and just like start to drift in and out, like im about to pass out cause i've been up too long sorta thing! my dependance on shards for energy is extremely noticeable! then after the initial surge of withdrawals passed, i get more money, along with somehow 3 speeding tickets!!!! (been living off of addy xr 30s, energy drinks/shot, and bad ass smoothies!) and yah ive been kinda extra speedy/racing with my driving! then i am getting another stash with some of my mula, and found the decreased tolerance a joy, and just gonna watch my habits closer. maybe use it for more "tool" based needs than "toy" based.
i.e. feeling constant/relentless fatigue...= a line or two. As opposed to why not add 3-4 more and make better use of it haha!
lately been speedballin a shit tons! having good combo with oxy's and stims!

WILL I ever "quit" and NOT short term!?!! haha

canberracrack said:
This drug has me by the balls. i can't quit and I've accepted the fact I'm not so slowly going insane. Ive stopped swirling so goddamn much at once, and been taking valiums both to sleep and to ward off psychosis. But still I'm losing it. Work is the worst because i absolutely cannot work unless I'm tweaked, but my shifts go for 6-8 hours so i have to smoke a fair bit before work to stay going the whole time, which= psychosis. Im pretty close to losing my job I've been acting weird as, boss is all over it. Ive been bringing the pipe and regularly ducking to the toliet to blow a cloud and come back. getting on everyones nerves. Ive had to try so hard to keep it together and not lose my shit at work which I've managed to do so far but its been hard and like i said they are all suss on me.

No work til saturday night though which is alright. The toll this drug takes on your body is horrendous. I try and look after myself eat as much as i can etc but i still look like I've aged like ten years since start of 2013. I'm only 22 almost 23 ffs. When i started getting into the ice most weekends/almost everyday around end of 2012, i was 82-83kg, went gym reasonably often, fairly fit not fat at all. Now i weigh 70kg :O. Its flipping ridiculous. Im 6 foot 2 so I'm pretty fucking skinny. Always got circles around my eyes, shitty skin with pimples and i just look plain fucked to be honest.

I end up eating only like once a day if that. Try eat some fruit and stuff but its hard to have full big meals when your tweaked as fuck mostly just stuff like noodles, biscuits, sandwiches etc

Plus my teeth are starting to look pretty bad too. yellow as and some are hurting and starting to die. cigarettes and cones dont help this either though.
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you know..... i might spend some tweakin moments researchin brain stuff, like chemistry and stuff associated with neurotransmitters and the way all that affects thoughts and decisions! theres gotta be something EXTRA going on beneath the surface!

i.e. poke a spot of the brain and subject smells/tastes something random, or has memory/feeling or crazy stuff. the brain is probly mostly unexplored territory as far as im concerned!



Christ! said:
Meth makes you gay!
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lol

(bit off topic)

Seriously though, sexual orientation is fluid. The lines can get blurred, even for someone who considers themselves 100% straight. This happens without drugs too - the situation, person of affection, time in persons life can all influence it.

These things aren't 100% fixed. The meth could have made him hyper-sexual, combined with you being a challenge/unobtainable tipped the scales. I'm betting you don't have super strong masculine features.

IMO everyone is probably potentially able to go 'gay'. From talking with people on the issue they usually have their main orientation coming through while quite young - straight/gay/bi (some will still have lots of trouble labeling it) Tons of heterosexuals will end up having same-sex experiences. In my job I've worked with people that have massive conflicts over the whole thing - essentially 'oh noes duz this maek me teh gayz?!?' I guess I'd probably get lots of clients with fears on masturbation if it were the 1800's. People/society just need to try and chill on the whole thing.
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well... everyone is different!
with that being said: I was once (in highschool) bi-curious for a small period of time for random reasons. found out that i was definitely one confused individual, not to mention hormones and puberty!
To this day! and from the very begining! i have never actually like anything about males, other than the dick inside of pussy! and i got the dick! so it basically summed it all up for me! female smells and pheromones is what gets me every time! i feel for me at least, my straighness is like a deep rut! with big walls on either side! (the walls probly my male body) "as to each, his own!"

I absolutely have nothing against anything of this sorts, and have very good friends who are bi, and gay. but yah im definitly 100% fixed. and yah this is very off topic huh?.... haha well okay then.... just felt like mentioning something on the matter. (altho i cant deny during my bi-curious phase, there was something makin me curious!)
 
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[/QUOTE]To this day! and from the very begining! i have never actually like anything about males, other than the dick inside of pussy! and i got the dick! so it basically summed it all up for me! female smells and pheromones is what gets me every time! i feel for me at least, my straighness is like a deep rut! with big walls on either side! (the walls probly my male body) "as to each, his own!"

I absolutely have nothing against anything of this sorts, and have very good friends who are bi, and gay. but yah im definitly 100% fixed. and yah this is very off topic huh?.... haha well okay then.... just felt like mentioning something on the matter. (altho i cant deny during my bi-curious phase, there was something makin me curious!)

As a 4-6yo I used to be called a girl by some people cause I had cute lil innocent face idk.... that I guess to them looked like a lil girl. Makes me laugh cause I just remembered it because of ThatOneDude! :)
i.e. poke a spot of the brain and subject smells/tastes something random, or has memory/feeling or crazy stuff. the brain is probly mostly unexplored territory as far as im concerned!





well... everyone is different!
with that being said: I was once (in highschool) bi-curious for a small period of time for random reasons. found out that i was definitely one confused individual, not to mention hormones and puberty!
To this day! and from the very begining! i have never actually like anything about males, other than the dick inside of pussy! and i got the dick! so it basically summed it all up for me! female smells and pheromones is what gets me every time! i feel for me at least, my straighness is like a deep rut! with big walls on either side! (the walls probly my male body) "as to each, his own!"

I absolutely have nothing against anything of this sorts, and have very good friends who are bi, and gay. but yah im definitly 100% fixed. and yah this is very off topic huh?.... haha well okay then.... just felt like mentioning something on the matter. (altho i cant deny during my bi-curious phase, there was something makin me curious!)[/QUOTE]

@christ Yeah I fully agree with you

Smoking, Snorting, IV, meth or downing ampfets makes the wheels of the world go around !
 
the fucking ice is cracking underneath me i tells ya. been chewing through the benzos like a maniac. psytaco is 100% right i need to fuck them off too...but cant fuck the ice off. Last 24 hours I've smoked probably 3 points and chewed like 100mg valium... fuck me. Im calling in sick to work tomorrow, calling a fckin GP and trying to sort myself out I'm losing my fucking brain. fuck me but the clouds !!! The rush!!! ICE ICE BABY
 
Everyone try heating the pipe up on a gas stove for about 2-3 mins, til hot as all fuck. Then have about a half point pre scooper in your scooper sitting there waiting. Take the pipe and drop the ice in. Swirl like a fucking champion. And you will learn the meaning of high my crackfriends and crackfiends.
 
whats people who have done both methods, thoughts on IV vs smoking?? this cunt today was trying to convert me literally trying to offer to shoot me up i was like get fucked cunt hahah but he was adamant on how much better it was. he said "remember the best roller coaster you ever went on as a kid?? Imagine putting that roller coaster up your fucking arm and riding it cunt!!" Said the feeling and duration SHITS on smoking

i have noticed the IV guys are a bit less fiendish than us pipe heads. My new dealers place is mostly an IV user hangout, and everyone there has their shots sits back and just talks smack for hours. At my old dealers place (pipes only, IV users seen as scum) everyones eyes were just locked on the pipe, even if there was more than one. And every conversation was interrupted with an argument about who's pipe it was literally every ten minutes.
 
canberracrack said:
whats people who have done both methods, thoughts on IV vs smoking?? this cunt today was trying to convert me literally trying to offer to shoot me up i was like get fucked cunt hahah but he was adamant on how much better it was. he said "remember the best roller coaster you ever went on as a kid?? Imagine putting that roller coaster up your fucking arm and riding it cunt!!" Said the feeling and duration SHITS on smoking

i have noticed the IV guys are a bit less fiendish than us pipe heads. My new dealers place is mostly an IV user hangout, and everyone there has their shots sits back and just talks smack for hours. At my old dealers place (pipes only, IV users seen as scum) everyones eyes were just locked on the pipe, even if there was more than one. And every conversation was interrupted with an argument about who's pipe it was literally every ten minutes.
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that is pretty much exactly how it is IME.. dont mean to start arguments or whatnot here but I would much rather chill with a few IV users rather than smokers

havnt personally had a whack in nearly a year but have smoked it a couple times a month since then, only because all my mates are pipe heads and offer us nearly every day.. fuck the pipe - actually, fuck meth
 
Smoking that shit makes you crazy.
IV, a lot less crazy and fiendy.
when ive smoked, i just sit and smoke nonstop for 30 mins-1.5 hours and afterwards i am wrecked and do my usual things i do on amphetamines...
that and i tend to be mad paranoid smoking about getting walked in on/getting caught by my parents.
IV is cleaner and less crazy inducing most of the time. And it lasts twice as long.
i want to try this gear in australia that you guys do such small amounts of at a time and get high lol, cause if i get an 8ball, i can kill it in 4-5 days, if i can IV and smoke.
Ar least, ive gonw through an 8ball in 4-5 days before.
depends on how good it is. I know i can finish that off in 6 days for sure, no doubt, 100% certainty if i couldnt finish it a day or two sooner.
waitin to do a bit myself.
about .2 or .3
yall cracka jelly
 
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Way back when i was an IV meth user and dealer the clients who smoked the stuff were much more scattered than the IV users on average. Don't get me wrong meth will fuck up a persons life, personality, choices and standards no matter how they imbibe it but i did notice quite obvious differences between those who smoked and those who IV'd. Either way there is no way to control that drug, ultimately you will pay a price for that mind blowing enjoyment.
 
I had a shot!!!@@!!@@@


banged up almost a point of primo!! dealer and his brother insisted i try it!!! And woiw holy fuck is all ima say!!

Im beaming like king kong aka donkey kong!! Fuck me!!
spewed/coughed mt guts up after it !!! Thought i wqas gonna fucking die and my heart leap out of my mouth and have a shot too!! Fuyck me dead I'm peaking !!! Different kind of peak i feel it more in my body!! Benn shaking and gyrating its hard as fuck to type!!
 
canberracrack said:
I had a shot!!!@@!!@@@


banged up almost a point of primo!! dealer and his brother insisted i try it!!! And woiw holy fuck is all ima say!!

Im beaming like king kong aka donkey kong!! Fuck me!!
spewed/coughed mt guts up after it !!! Thought i wqas gonna fucking die and my heart leap out of my mouth and have a shot too!! Fuyck me dead I'm peaking !!! Different kind of peak i feel it more in my body!! Benn shaking and gyrating its hard as fuck to type!!
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I doubt you will listen to me but I'll try anyway. You are on the verge of seriously fucking your life up.

Since you have been on bluelight for the last month you have told us the following: You almost got beat up by your dealer and he is out for you. You are in and out of psychosis. Your boss is onto you being high at work and you've been using at work. You are using huge amounts of valium. You use ice pretty much everyday. You just shot up for the first time.

Where do you think all of this is going to lead if you don't stop?

Firstly, if you are using about 100mg valium a day (it stays in your system for a few days too) then you will absolutely go through bad benzo withdrawal if you keep this up for over a month. I did less than half that amount for a month and had to go through a taper and it sucked. Benzo withdrawal will fuck you harder up the arse than any ice comedown ever did. It is one of the worst things you will go through. Check out the wikipedia entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine_withdrawal_syndrome

Secondly, shooting up is often the downfall of many people. Most people's use gets worse when they shoot up. Not to mention the risk of HIV, infections etc.

There is a lot of other shit I could talk about but it should be obvious to you. Life is going to get really fucked up if you don't stop. You can't control it. You're in your early 20's - the prime of your life. Yeah you should be having fun, but this is way past fun. I'd get help[ if I were you and try to clean up before things really go to shit.
 
^ I agree with most of what psytaco says.
Benzos are the worst addiction to (try to) kick.
Add a meth addiction to that, and you are in a bad situation.
Not sure if IVing is worse than smoking, though.
Either way, from your posts, it seems that it is definitely time (or past time) for you to think about getting help, canberracrack.
It seems that you won't be able to continue with your lifestyle much longer without something going terribly wrong.
 
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Thanks for looking out for me guys! i know shit is going to shit but its fucked i cant stop it!! Im still toasted as hell from that shot this morning!! Had to drop 70-80mg val to ward off the crazies@!
I'm getting better at recognising signs of psychosis and chilling da fuck out before it rips loose!! Its more likely to kick off when I'm around ppl so when i feel myself about to put a wig on i fuck off outta der

I got a point to smoke and i haven't touched it yet! thats how much this shot fucked me!
 
canberracrack said:
Thanks for looking out for me guys! i know shit is going to shit but its fucked i cant stop it!! Im still toasted as hell from that shot this morning!! Had to drop 70-80mg val to ward off the crazies@!
I'm getting better at recognising signs of psychosis and chilling da fuck out before it rips loose!! Its more likely to kick off when I'm around ppl so when i feel myself about to put a wig on i fuck off outta der

I got a point to smoke and i haven't touched it yet! thats how much this shot fucked me!
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How long have you been using that amount of benzos? Have you noticed any withdrawal symptoms if you stop for a few days (ie. panic, shakes, nausea, insomnia, anxiety, headache)?

As I said before, the benzos aren't doing anything for your psychosis. They are just helping the anxiety side of things. If you want something to stop the psychosis and sleep you are better off getting anti-psychotics like seroquel. However, I'm not a doctor so I don't know if this is safe.
 
canberracrack said:
Everyone try heating the pipe up on a gas stove for about 2-3 mins, til hot as all fuck. Then have about a half point pre scooper in your scooper sitting there waiting. Take the pipe and drop the ice in. Swirl like a fucking champion. And you will learn the meaning of high my crackfriends and crackfiends.
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We call this technique 'Hot Rocks!'
 
I had to clean this thread up, lets keep things on topic and not go around making accusations or calling people names, it doesn't get us anywhere positive, and frankly, it isn't very mature.

Canberracrack, if you can't stop the ice and benzodiazepines on your own then you should really seek professional help. It is fairly obvious that your life is headed in a bad direction right now and things will only get worse with the path you are on...
 
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