Methamphetamine Discussion Thread 3.0

[canberracrack]

one thing that got my attention in that doco.. was his mate who couldn't find a vein. said he started heroin at a young age like about 13...thing that struck me the most is how intelligent and insightful he seemed...if only hed taken a different path..

Matty had his head screwed on pretty good too, for someone so fried...like seriously...he was handling symptoms of psychosis like a champ..

the next four corners doco was BS..wehat about the dude sitting there was a friend who was toking, saying he had quit a while ago...he was sitting in a room with a dude toking, and his eyes were like dinner plates... wtfff ay

 

[ThaOne]

My puppies friend has searched & searched the www to no success as to whether the puppies father can do a simple cwe on a 30 mg xr brand name Adderall after crushing in a morter and pedistal, if 91% isopropyl alcohol extraction is necessary and possible? I kno that there 2 salts and lot's of fillers & binders, filtration methods etc but don't know the exact process of extraction for it, maybe the father wanted to injest it in the nasal passage or intravenous or smoked? He wants to do it properly and efficiently so he doesn't end up hurting himself! Any help will be greatly appreciated and the hound will be happy

 

[Christ!]

If you are a clean user there is no healthier way to use any drug... Do you see people smoking drugs up at the hospital? I tend to try and stay away from IV myself because it is a much more intense long lasting high which once you 1st feel the power its gonna take a hell of a lot of will power to get back to just smoking it, I agree with others you dont get scattered when IVing while smoking idk whats with that but it brings the crazys on fast

Yeah but no ones perfect. Our skin is probably the most important part of immune system.

If you're super clean you can minimize harm but I'd hesitate calling it the most healthy. Maybe if you're getting pure drugs that are sterile.

 

[motiv311]

All you geniuses out there want to try swallowing the damn stuff .....works amazing for me almost too amazing to the point where my tolerance goes up Crazy fast..... I don't know why so many bluelighters make it complicated shooting drugs up their ass ,!into their cocks into their veins getting their arms cut off , abscesses ,snorting up your nose and getting sores , fucking their nasal cavities smoking it getting lungs completely fucked , and their teeth..... It's super funny because you think that swallowing it won't bring about any sort of Rush or or whatever but it actually has the best come up in my opinion

 

[canberracrack]

^^^^^ how much do u swallow at once might give it a go

 

[Christ!]

^^^^^ how much do u swallow at once might give it a go

If you're used to IV/smoking - eating it isn't going to touch those effects. If you had a break for a few days, then swallowed some before work (if you're NEEDing to use before working) then that might be a decent option to reduce intake.

Not sure if that would just be a tease though. You'd be fine if you powered through work without it - mind-state helps with this kind of thing.

Taking it orally is probably my favourite way these days. A lot more enjoyable experience overall - no fiending and it feels more like a mellow, wholesome experience

Give it a go? Just keep your expectations in check...

For someone addicted to stims it's like (sober-------------oral---------------------------------------------------------------------------------smoke/IV) You'll feel much better than if you had taken nothing, but it's miles off the other ROA.

Best thing you can do is just take a break. Drops your tolerance right back and you'll appreciate the clear mind.

 

[psytaco]

So i feel like my use has moderated itself and I'm feeling a lot better about everything. however i now realise i have a benzo problem. i ran out the other day, and didn't have any for about 24-36 hours. i started to feel weird. dazed and confused is the best way to describe it. head was spinning like a mofo. i wasn't liking it one bit and had to race around to old mate and grab a new lot. Im all good as long as i have some, and they keep the crazies at bay... so i kinda am not seeing the problem here unless I'm forced to withdraw which i now know will be nasty.

Sounds like you've got it all figured out dude. Shoot up meth and keep your tolerance down. Keep taking benzos because you have an unlimited supply.

Except, you will just shoot more and end up using as much or more than you smoked. And your benzo habit - what happens if your dealer can't be reached, you have no money or he is out of stock? What are you going to do then? Benzos aren't easy to get from doctors, they are quite hesitant to hand them out.

You are better off getting help and kicking both habits. Benzo withdrawal if you are taking 100mg valium a day over a long period of time could kill you. Did you know that? You can have a seizure and die! You are messing around with something really serious here and the quicker you get yourself to a doctor and start tapering off it the better. If you are forced to go cold turkey suddenly (due to your dealer being out of benzos) you are in for fucking hell. That first 24-36hrs is nothing compared to what happens after 3-4 days.

I reckon get your arse over to a doctor. Come clean about your habits. Get stablised on the benzos and then quit the ice. From there you can work at cutting the benzos down slowly (you can't safely cold turkey from the doses you have been taking).

As for the shooting up. It isn't smarter, cheaper or safer in the long run. You will still get a tolerance, still up your dose etc. Also, as for the never sharing needles stuff, I bet none of those guys you hang out with thought they would share needles and have Hep C but hey, now they do. Also, mistakes or risky behaviour can happen when your fucked up and you don't want to use someone elses rig by accident.

 

[canberracrack]

you two are fucking lame as fuck and i hope you both od, die, and some other scumbag pisses on your grave otherwise steals your ashes and pisses on them

you the fucks that give dillas a bad name. ead & diaf with aids.

lololokewpiofhsiufghf

Its the drug game mate.. its nice to wanna always be fair and help out but its not really how this scene works. you gotta keep your wits about you, respect the right people, and trust your instincts.

 

[laugh]

my instincts tell me not to trust you.

the scene you speak of consists of people like yourself with the same moral and ethical compass. you are the kind of person fucking things up.

the golden rule: treat others how you would like to be treated.

what goes around comes around.

 

[Jabberwocky]

What I don't get is why with the huge availability of meth a dealer would even bother cutting their gear with MSM. Sure you're increasing your volume but there's 10 other dealers out there that'll have better gear than you and your reputation will be ruined. You'd end up losing profits and now you're stuck with a bunch of shitty cut gear that you'll probably end up taking. Honesty and quality are what makes a successful dealer, it's the liars and the scumbags that are unsuccessful. It's counter-intuitive to the reason you're selling in the first place and fucking stupid.

 

[Captain Brewster]

the golden rule: treat others how you would like to be treated.

what goes around comes around.

+me.

Good to see you hanging round a bit more laugh.

 

[abbazabbaaa]

When I was 17/18/19 I tried all of them within a yr or two, probably something like - tobacco/alcohol/weed/bulbs/trips/E's/speed/shrooms

Funny how fast it all happens, eh? What a ride...

 

[ebola?]

Its the drug game mate..

No, it's patently unethical, and if you cut your wares, you're part of the set of problems with the "drug game"; no one here will help you with this, and further conversation about how to cut drugs will not be allowed.

its nice to wanna always be fair and help out but its not really how this scene works.

Whose fault is this?

(also, your method for cutting is patently inferior, as your product will not be homogenous, either in terms of looks or potency; you're not even fucking good at this, man.)
ebola

 

[poledriver]

+me.

Good to see you hanging round a bit more laugh.

laugh -
Temporary Ban

 

[Captain Brewster]

Wouldn't surprise me.....

 

[methyldreams]

As for the shooting up. It isn't smarter, cheaper or safer in the long run. You will still get a tolerance, still up your dose etc. Also, as for the never sharing needles stuff, I bet none of those guys you hang out with thought they would share needles and have Hep C but hey, now they do. Also, mistakes or risky behaviour can happen when your fucked up and you don't want to use someone elses rig by accident.

WHAT A LOAD OF SHIT, I have never ever even shared a spoon with anyone and if i do, I burn it with a flame then get alcohole wipe to clean it, I even wipe the end of the plunger you use to crush your rocks, I have been offered cock and been offered used needles to have a taste but I have always rejected because not everyone is scum no matter how far down they go, and to the guy saying about swallowing drugs yeah of course you will feel high from it????? if you never done it any other way

 

[SKR]

Sharing needles, especially in Australia where we have FREE needle exchange programs is just so bloody ridiculous! I could never understand people doing this. I was an IV drug user for over a decade and I've seen it all like many others around here - I've seen them shared and I've had folks ask me for mine once I'm done, Errgh I have always refused. I would always bend the needle back onto itself while capping it and then discarded into my ALSO FREE sharps container to make sure it cannot be used again either by myself or others. Gosh I've seen people fish needles out of a sharps containers they have found. And just because you've got one of the many dreaded diseases that are all too common amongst IV users this does not make it okay to share someone else's used needle! That is insane! Re-using your own needle is a great way to end up having the valves in your heart replaced one day - if you're lucky enough to live here in Australia where this usually expensive surgery will be done for free.
My apologies for adding to the derailment of this thread.

 

[tweak_chef]

^My thoughts exactly. I was always an IV user - once you start shooting it is often the ROA for every drug you can get into a needle. Look at the lengths people go to to get their pills into a pick!

Canberracrack - at least now you can say you've done it, it really is time to give up this drug. I didn't start getting any psychosis until years of use. My last binge lasting 9months and 3 weeks of all day everyday use. When I started to develop psychosis I recognised it for what it was and knew it was time to give it away. You don't want to end up that guy on the news who has been involved in some heinous crime - you'll be sitting in jail wondering how the fuck you got there and that sucks. If you're going to do time you want to have done it for good reason, not because you lost your shit at the end of a meth binge.

I find women are usually more sensitive to psychosis and are the first to go, but once it starts it usually doesn't stop until the cessation of the drug that's causing it in the first place.Taking Benzo's is not the answer. Just ask those that have had benzo addictions or are still in the grips of benzo addiction. They live in hell as far as I can tell.'

Taper your use or just stop, throw away all your contacts, move town if you have to and start again. Change your environment. Quit your job if you have to limit your income if you think you cannot be trusted. If you're lucky enough to have family and you haven't burnt them all then go and be with them. Forgive yourself and move on. Or keep killing yourself like you are - it really is your choice mate and only you can make it. You don't owe this drug anything and you have explored it inside and out, there really is nothing more to it, you will not miss out on anything if you never use it again.

I Hope you give it away mate, I really do.

Man, im not sure if my experience can be labeled as psychosis. But I remember my 1st night of my trauma. After taking meth using a foil (which i might add isnt very hard to unlike what other says), my neighbors wanted to play a prank on me. They knew I was a user. So they made this act outside my house as if they were calling the cops and that they were right at my doorstep. And the worst part was at that time, I really thought it was all true. And there my trauma started. Im sober for 2 years and counting but anxiety has not yet gone away. And because of that I really cant get along with new people. Not like before my drug use.

 

[pisspotnrock]

cbfed replying to everything but ill try with what Ive read...

^My thoughts exactly. I was always an IV user - once you start shooting it is often the ROA for every drug you can get into a needle. Look at the lengths people go to to get their pills into a pick!

Canberracrack - at least now you can say you've done it, it really is time to give up this drug. I didn't start getting any psychosis until years of use. My last binge lasting 9months and 3 weeks of all day everyday use. When I started to develop psychosis I recognised it for what it was and knew it was time to give it away. You don't want to end up that guy on the news who has been involved in some heinous crime - you'll be sitting in jail wondering how the fuck you got there and that sucks. If you're going to do time you want to have done it for good reason, not because you lost your shit at the end of a meth binge.

I find women are usually more sensitive to psychosis and are the first to go, but once it starts it usually doesn't stop until the cessation of the drug that's causing it in the first place.Taking Benzo's is not the answer. Just ask those that have had benzo addictions or are still in the grips of benzo addiction. They live in hell as far as I can tell.'

Taper your use or just stop, throw away all your contacts, move town if you have to and start again. Change your environment. Quit your job if you have to limit your income if you think you cannot be trusted. If you're lucky enough to have family and you haven't burnt them all then go and be with them. Forgive yourself and move on. Or keep killing yourself like you are - it really is your choice mate and only you can make it. You don't owe this drug anything and you have explored it inside and out, there really is nothing more to it, you will not miss out on anything if you never use it again.

I Hope you give it away mate, I really do.

excellent post, could not have said it better myself

would ppl plz stop telling ppl that meth IV is more beneficial in any way than smoking etc etc....

damn stupid IV users, even if you have a slight point, (which you dont really) yall basically talked cabbanacrack or whatever his fucking name is to try it out.... you happy?

although I see were your coming from, your comnig across as a bit of a fuck whit.. he asked for our opinions, we gave em - fullstop.. we all know the consequences of this ROA, we were just expressing our opinion as asked,..

well i guess I'm full time IV user now. its amazing how less fiendish it is and i honestly find it easier to maintain sanity, with twirling i would just end up sitting there for hours puffing away and chewing thru all my shit. Now i just have a fat shot of ..05-.1 and i tweak for 12 solid hours at least. I stick to 2 points or less in 24 hours! before i would easily chew up 3-4 in 24 hours easely. Anywho its a good switch. I sit there with the other IV guys and we all just have a stab then sit back and tweak on! at my old dudes house all eyes were on the pipe. and once you had a go with it you were just finding for your next twiddle. fuck that shit.


only worries with IV, is sharing needles!! Some guys at the house were actually doing this, as they all say they've been tested and are clean of aids, but know they have hepatitis. I was pretty freaked out by that and am never gonna get into that situation where i share a needle. fuck that.

So i feel like my use has moderated itself and I'm feeling a lot better about everything. however i now realise i have a benzo problem. i ran out the other day, and didn't have any for about 24-36 hours. i started to feel weird. dazed and confused is the best way to describe it. head was spinning like a mofo. i wasn't liking it one bit and had to race around to old mate and grab a new lot. Im all good as long as i have some, and they keep the crazies at bay... so i kinda am not seeing the problem here unless I'm forced to withdraw which i now know will be nasty.

all ill say here is atleast your using less but be very careful with IV use.. Im exactly your age n went through the same shit you are three years ago minus the benzo use.. your only problem, IMO, is your benzoe use.. tamper off before you completely fuck yourself which already be too late giving your doses.. meth dependency isnt physical but benzoes are.. be careful where you tread brother

EDIT: never share anything, spoons included.. Ive been lucky, let cunts prep my shots without my own observation.. even have copped a needle-stick injury but thankfully, have tested neg. to every blood-borne virus since.. long story short; trust no-one n be as much of a hypochondriac as you possibly can if your gonna dance with the devil

 

[the_ketaman]

Anyway on a separate note.

Last week I IV'd & smoked about 5-7 points in 4 days & never have I had a comedown like that EVER! The depression was something different.

So dumbass me blasted 1.5pts yesty but I have xanax so it will be bearable throughout the week but ppl want to shout me (2-3 pts) crystal tomorrow in place of money I won't get otherwise. And I don't know what to do. I need xanax/clonazepam to stay mentally stable for the days after or heroin/morphine/methadone 100+mg which I can't afford and Im coming off methadone(4 a bupe swap) anyway hence why I'm feeling the opiates.

I can't get away. I feel like becoming a h addict is the only way to stop using ice! I don't know what to do.