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Methamphetamine Discussion Thread 2.0

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After 10 years of using ive only just figured out how to smoke correctly. I mean my technique wasn't horrible (at least I didn't touch flame to glass) but the stuff around atm is SO HARD to smoke without burning. Im sick of wasting it so im just IV'ing but I like to have a smoke too but it's next to impossible with this. Anyone else having similar problems? Its not like its crap stuff, in fact its really awesome I.e at least 85% pure and big clear rocks.

Id rather IV anyway because the feeling is cleaner, I don't waste so much and dont use as much. When im with smokers that's all we do 24/7 whereas IV'ers can put the shit away and enjoy ourselves either fucking or dancing or partying., whatever were doing but most crackhouses ( they may as well be called that) with residents that smoke are often much more yucky, unclean, hostile places where the attention is always focused on the pipe. In a way im glad I IV.

I got 4 points today and after "losing" 1.5pts I still have heaps left. I couldnt hit more if I wanted to, im high as a kite. And that fried feeling is what we IV'ers look for. I shot a point this morning (different but still quality compared to what I have now) and it killed my anxiety and that dead-in-the-head feeling is exactly what I wanted. Gradually as the rush wears off my self returns and I'm just fried and continue to do one of my usual fried activities which are almost all personal lol And as long as I have vitamins (omega-3, magnesium, male multi and vit D) and eat, drink, sleep and do normal things I am fine and dont really scatter out, get grumpy or suffer too much in the way of negative effects.
 
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I have a problem with phlegm when I smoke meth. I brush my teeth straight after, drink heaps of water but for some reason, after about 2 hours I get this thick phlegm buildup at the back of my throat, right where my gag reflex is located. Meaning if I don't cough it up forcefully and regularly, then I start gagging and dry heaving (never thrown up but close!). Once I get that gunk out its fine. But if I am entranced by some porn scene or something for like 6 hours then I suddenly gag like fuck and have to hug the toilet bowl and cough like Walter White season 1. So what can I do about this?? Should I try and get some sort of expectorant or equivalent from the chemist to break this shit down and make my weekends a bit more enjoyable? It happens just about every time now and it's really annoying.
 
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I have no idea what's up with that. I can get a bad case of crack lung, but no gag show. Maybe an allergic reaction...? (Hell, I dunno)

What are some good dental care tips, besides vigilant brushing? My... bits of my teeth are coming off, is all.

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the_ketaman said:
After 10 years of using ive only just figured out how to smoke correctly. I mean my technique wasn't horrible (at least I didn't touch flame to glass) but the stuff around atm is SO HARD to smoke without burning. Im sick of wasting it so im just IV'ing but I like to have a smoke too but it's next to impossible with this. Anyone else having similar problems? Its not like its crap stuff, in fact its really awesome I.e at least 85% pure and big clear rocks.

Id rather IV anyway because the feeling is cleaner, I don't waste so much and dont use as much. When im with smokers that's all we do 24/7 whereas IV'ers can put the shit away and enjoy ourselves either fucking or dancing or partying., whatever were doing but most crackhouses ( they may as well be called that) with residents that smoke are often much more yucky, unclean, hostile places where the attention is always focused on the pipe. In a way im glad I IV.

I got 4 points today and after "losing" 1.5pts I still have heaps left. I couldnt hit more if I wanted to, im high as a kite. And that fried feeling is what we IV'ers look for. I shot a point this morning (different but still quality compared to what I have now) and it killed my anxiety and that dead-in-the-head feeling is exactly what I wanted. Gradually as the rush wears off my self returns and I'm just fried and continue to do one of my usual fried activities which are almost all personal lol And as long as I have vitamins (omega-3, magnesium, male multi and vit D) and eat, drink, sleep and do normal things I am fine and dont really scatter out, get grumpy or suffer too much in the way of negative effects.
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No offense dude, I don't know where you get your purity from but I highly doubt you have gear that is 85%+ pure yet burns easily in the pipe. Methamphetamine tends to have a higher melting point than the things that are used to cut it, so pure gear is usually harder to burn than gear that has been stomped on. In my experience one of the signs of high quality meth is that it will take quite some time before it actually melts in the bowl, where shitty gear can turn to a puddle very quickly, the only gear I have encountered that burned easily fell into the latter category of quick to puddle up, stepped on gear.

Years ago I got a batch of shard that was a pain in the ass to smoke, you could only keep the lighter on it for a short period after it started smoking good or the puddle would harden up and turn black, I always assumed it had been cut with a small amount of glucose or something similar. That was definitely not good quality gear.

Surprises me it would take you ten years to develop proper pipe smoking techniques, for what the crap costs in this country most people I encounter seem pretty clued on to how to smoke the gear properly without burning it or wasting it, the one major exception would be it seems a majority of meth tokers love to blow out big clouds of vapour, which I personally consider to be a huge waste.

I always cringe when I see any meth related documentary based in the US where people smoke meth, it seems like nobody over there has a clue how not to burn up their dope, I imagine for the price they pay they don't have to give a shit because it is still insanely cost effective. Turned on some Louis Theroux documentary earlier tonight and as usual the yank meth heads were scorching the living shit out of their gear. I seem to recall seeing a documentary on Ben Cousins a few years ago which featured footage of him smoking meth and his technique was equally atrocious, which lends credibility to the idea that those who have lots of money or access to cheap meth don't bother to learn proper smoking technique.
 
The first time I smoked meth I didn't realise you're meant to heat up the glass and not the meth itself..
Suffice to say I caught on quick
 
drug_mentor said:
In my experience one of the signs of high quality meth is that it will take quite some time before it actually melts in the bowl, where shitty gear can turn to a puddle very quickly, the only gear I have encountered that burned easily fell into the latter category of quick to puddle up, stepped on gear.
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Interesting that.. I usually go by the time it takes for the puddle to resolidify (faster the better), what the resolidified puddle looks like (consistency of scaley pattern), and how much vapour comes out after a normal sized toke. If you toked and then hardly or nothing comes back out, on the assumption this is not due to holding onto your breath for ages like with a nang, then better call houston, there is a problem!
 
Drancer I agree with your first two observations, I did not mention them in my prior post because ketaman made no mention of those factors, just how easily the gear burnt up, which tends to be with faster melting gear in my experience. I never noticed a huge difference in the amount of vapour, other than the obvious which is the purer the gear the more average sized tokes you get out of a point, but I am a tight arse who tends to hold in their hits until they blow out very little or no vapour.
 
I concur and say that I.V. methamphetamine of the shard kind is the most intense and pleasurable experience ever...Not after the 48 hour mark with limited resources.
 
I also don't recommend it at all...just smoke it/snort it...if you're into needles, go nuts, but yeah, know your limits...

Mate fucked me over a bit back...not happy with him...he lied/deceived/fucked me over...threatened to call the police if I went up to his house.

:/
 
Has anyone else set themselves a cutoff point for when it's time to quit? For example, i'll know i've crossed the line between drug user and full blown junkie the day i decide to IV instead of smoke it (no offence to those who IV, just my own personal set limit when it comes to shard)

Keen to hear what other 'meth lines' people have vowed not to cross.
 
I set a line to never get on more than once a week, and I got on more than once a week.
I set a line never to shoot up, and I shot up.
I set a line never to get addicted, and I got addicted.

So yeah I set a few lines that I then merely danced right across. And trust me there friend, smoking the shard is pretty much as addicting and potent as whacking it. Only real difference is the ruushhhhhhh. Smoking, whacking, both'll turn you into a "full-blown junkie" at some point, heh.

Y'know, unless you can actually keep to your "meth lines".
 
I'm a fairly strong minded person so i was prepared for what was to come when diving into the world of meth and the thought of shooting up has never even slightly crossed my mind. I just view the whole process of shoving a needle into your arm to be so grim and dark, which is not the reason why i take drugs, but i guess that's also because i'd never allow myself to get to the point of wanting to chase a high so badly that i'd swap a pipe for a syringe...

And this is just my view on me imagining MYSELF shooting up, i don't necessarily judge those that do, but i'd never want to be around that dark side of the drug scene...
 
Switching from intranasal and smoking methamphetamine to solely IV has saved me HUGE amounts of money in the long run. I can sit and smoke 2-3 points in one pipe session on my own then running back a couple hours later for more; but if I IV my gear generally I would use 100-150mg in a shot and this usually keeps me satisfied for upwards of 8 hours without even thinking of using more. I also find when only IV'ing my gear that I don't get tweaked out as I generally do when hanging off a pipe for 3 day binges. Although there is a stigma attached to IV usage specially in my small group of friends. IV is a private practice that I keep to myself and don't bring up or glorify. My friends know I use this ROA and don't approve.

On the issue of setting lines for one self to not cross with their drug usage. I have also had these lines set and it was almost as if I yelled across the room at myself "Do a backflip, you won't". I then proceeded to hop, skip and jump over these lines.

Has anyone found that IV users are a lot more organised and functional then user that hang off a pipe? In my experience IV users hold down jobs and function in society A LOT better...

I do not condone switching to IV use as getting addicted to the steel is more then a reality.
Always partake in clean IV procedures.
 
Scored some nice crystal for the first time in I can't even remember and it is fucking excellent. I haven't touched it in ages so my tolerance is definitely next to nothing but in the last 3 hours i've smoked 1/5 of a point and am absolutely flying. Extremely euphoric and very long lasting. Doesn't have the same fiend that I used to have in terms of constantly sitting on the swivel. One or two puffs and I can put the pipe down and not touch it again for a while. I did just got a good 10-15 huge cloud fulls from like 1/10 of a point. Definitely some fire going around at the moment. I have been out of the scene for a while and without mentioning specific prices this stuff was 2/3 of the price of what I was paying back when I was smoking it 6 out of 7 days a week. Let the weekend roll on!
 
The quality of rock at the moment is sky high if your in the know, although the prices remain the same up here (Through the roof prices). 1/10 of a point personally for me even for top notch gear doesn't even touch the sides although I have been a frequent user of amphetamines since I was 15 (24 now). Only using maybe twice a month now with generally atleast 10days between each use. If its anything less then a point in my experience it isn't even worth it. I'm totally jealous of your tolerance levels and I wish you luck on remaining on your path of moderation! Its so easy for shard to suck you straight back in...
 
How much water do people mix to a point of meth? I usually use 40 units. Interested to hear if others use more or less etc. and I know this is the meth thread, but the same question applies to mixing up a point of heroin(I posted it in the other thread but this has more activity it seems)
 
I personally use 20 units when IV'ing anythin from 100mg-250mgs. Note I only bang 250mgs when im feelin rich hahaha :p 40units is fine when mixing all the way up in the half gram range in my experience as it grows.
 
Amphetafiendd said:
I personally use 20 units when IV'ing anythin from 100mg-250mgs. Note I only bang 250mgs when im feelin rich hahaha :p 40units is fine when mixing all the way up in the half gram range in my experience as it grows.
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Shit 20 units for 250 mg?! Sounds like a bloody strong hit!

I used to use 30 units for a point and thought that was strong.
 
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