Opioids Methadone Mega Thread and FAQ v 2.0

[ssstteeepppphhh]

I'm in Georgia and the clinic I go to there is no waiting list to start. You can dose the first day you go but they start you at a small dose, like 20 mg. I'm still in my first 30 days but they up me 5 mg every other day if I want. I'm at 70 mg right now and I think 75 will be a good dose for me. My slight buzz lasts me about five hours or so. Also my first day I had to be there about 3-4 hours...it sucked! But now I'm there 15-20 mins at the most. Sometimes less. Good luck!

Yeah, that's interesting. At the one I'm at now in FL for the first four days you can go up ten mgs a day if you want. Five mgs in the morning then three hours later a five mg supplemental dose so that the next day you start out higher. So I like that about this place. Up in PA you can only go up five every three days even at the beginning and after a certain mg, then you have to wait five days to increase. So crazy how they all have different protocols. I'm sitting at the clinic now waiting for my three hour supplemental dose.

 

[Bernc1]

I'm so very tired so please excuse any errors I make within this message. I'm REALLY seeking some help though. Mostly for health issues I had been taking oxydone daily for 2 years. To help with my "supply" I also got much extra then my usual 30 mgs per day (usually 100 mgs given to me by my sister). I recently got a new dr who decided to just take me off of them and replace it with gabapentin (2400 mgs per day to be increased), baclofen...my list could go on and on. My point of course is that I'm not feeling well at all. Pain wise and mentally. 3 days ago my sister gave me the last of her oxycodone (a total of 60 mgs...how I still have one and a half left I'll never know) and 3 methadone (10gs and I still have a half left)...my question is this and I hope so much someone can give me a reply. I'm super tired but not (as in the past super sick as in all the yucky stuff...puking, diarrhea, shaking...etc). Could the methadone have helped me (the other meds I've been on for nearly 2 months)....am I now going to be back done to "square one" tomorrow when the methadone is gone? Thanks in advance for any replies I may get. I'm still at the "can eat" level and the worst of it all is an intensified sense of pain, headache and severe tiredness. I don't want to go much into detail (for the sole purpose of writing too much) but my body really cannot handle going through wds right now....not that anyone likes them but to say the least I'm not very healthy at the moment.

 

[Wafflestomp]

Bean I wish I had some magical words I could throw your way to make it all feel right but the reality of the situation is I share a lot of whats going on with you. I have been stuck in this cycle for what seems like forever at this point. I'm currently on 65 because I got kicked out my last clinic at 110 tried to, get this, switch my habit to an opiate with a shorter Half-life and then when the methadone had made its way out of my system I would "just kick" the smack and be rid of the whole cyclical nightmare. Did you follow that thinking? Hilarious in its delusion. Needless to say that plan didn't work out the way I drew it up and I just switched clinics they started me at the customary 30mg which my habit laughed off in true junky fashion but hey I knew that the kick wouldn't be easy, right? I'm thinking if I can just get my dose lower maybe I can function better, I wont feel so bad about my life, who are you trying to fool? If I can get my dose low enough maybe I can get high on a half gram Instead of the .7-.8 I'm "choking down" with minimal effect. short lived at best. Every failed drug screen here gets me a 5mg increase whether I want it or not. Now I'm up to 60. Pissed dirty on Monday so I am looking for 65 in the morning. Not sure what the point of my rant was. I guess maybe a "hey Kid, You're not alone." I have found myself on the other side of this thing too, as I'm sure you have too, and the memory of that freedom keeps me trying to move toward that place again, No matter how elusive it seems. I really need to make some sort of progress though. I just took a new job that requires me to occasionally be out of town for a couple days. I install cabinets and when we are out of town I don't have a car so guest dosing requires someone (boss) to drive me to "Where again?" He asks. "You have to have this why, again?" There is hope for us. There is a way to live free. Its just takes a lot of work to get there. Feel free to PM me. I would love someone to chat with that knows what I'm dealing with, That is dealing with it too. hopefully there will also be some good days to share with each other as well as the struggles. Im going to try and get some sleep tonight. look forward to hearing from you. I hope things take a turn for the better.
Love and Light,
Matty

 

[Bernc1]

Bean I wish I had some magical words I could throw your way to make it all feel right but the reality of the situation is I share a lot of whats going on with you. I have been stuck in this cycle for what seems like forever at this point. I'm currently on 65 because I got kicked out my last clinic at 110 tried to, get this, switch my habit to an opiate with a shorter Half-life and then when the methadone had made its way out of my system I would "just kick" the smack and be rid of the whole cyclical nightmare. Did you follow that thinking? Hilarious in its delusion. Needless to say that plan didn't work out the way I drew it up and I just switched clinics they started me at the customary 30mg which my habit laughed off in true junky fashion but hey I knew that the kick wouldn't be easy, right? I'm thinking if I can just get my dose lower maybe I can function better, I wont feel so bad about my life, who are you trying to fool? If I can get my dose low enough maybe I can get high on a half gram Instead of the .7-.8 I'm "choking down" with minimal effect. short lived at best. Every failed drug screen here gets me a 5mg increase whether I want it or not. Now I'm up to 60. Pissed dirty on Monday so I am looking for 65 in the morning. Not sure what the point of my rant was. I guess maybe a "hey Kid, You're not alone." I have found myself on the other side of this thing too, as I'm sure you have too, and the memory of that freedom keeps me trying to move toward that place again, No matter how elusive it seems. I really need to make some sort of progress though. I just took a new job that requires me to occasionally be out of town for a couple days. I install cabinets and when we are out of town I don't have a car so guest dosing requires someone (boss) to drive me to "Where again?" He asks. "You have to have this why, again?" There is hope for us. There is a way to live free. Its just takes a lot of work to get there. Feel free to PM me. I would love someone to chat with that knows what I'm dealing with, That is dealing with it too. hopefully there will also be some good days to share with each other as well as the struggles. Im going to try and get some sleep tonight. look forward to hearing from you. I hope things take a turn for the better.
Love and Light,
Matty

Hey, I'm not sure if you were talking to me but I could definitely use all the friends I can get right now (not as in "use" cause I'm a great listener too)....I'm just really, really scared. I added you as I friend so hopefully you get my "friend request" and accept it. Lots of love, "Bern". I'm just so much looking for some advise and would also give advise gladly whenever I am able to

 

[Bernc1]

I as well would love someone to chat with and although it's been 2 years for me (which may not seem like a lot to some)...it's been 2 years of pure hell and I'm so very tired of living this way....whether it's a week, a month, a year or 10 years...its hell plain and simple

 

[soulmeetsbodi]

v1.0

This may not be the right place to ask but I'm down to 15mg of methadone and my Dr is tapering me way to fast at 5mg a week, I thought I could handle it but I refuse to go back to my shitty clinic, I came down from 60mg and when I got to 20mg all hell broke loose and I feel like death to be honest, I'm thinking about when I'm done, switching to suboxone, I don't have the option to. It go to work and I was doing well on mmt treatment, I have a whole script of 60 pills of tramadol, since I'm on such a low dose, would taking the ultram if I only took one sometimes, help with the w/d, I have heard of it depleting yout dose but I'm really not on much at all,

 

[Runtoparadise]

^you could try it. What dose of tramadol do you have? Probably more than one pill to help withdrawl though.

If you start a new thread you'll get more replies, btw, it's kinda unclear what you mean about suboxone.

You're thinking about switching but you don't have the option to?

Rtp

 

[Erikmen]

IMO/E getting off methadone is very difficult but once you've manage it you'll feel good about yourself. I wonder if yo wouldn't want to be off opiates for good. Or at least for a while before getting hooked to Subs which is also pretty hard to come off.

You are doing very well by the way. I think your doctor is going a little too fast now.
5 mg per week when you are on 60 mg is tolerable, but when you have already decreased it to 5 mg (?). What's the rush?
Why do you want to switch medications? I mean why going from methadone to Subs specifically?

 

[jenwop7573]

I'm not sure what to do...Have been on methadone for about two months now. I'm starting to "nod off" a lot. It comes on suddenly too and very frustrating. I will be fine and then "BAM!" I can't keep my eyes open! Does this mean my dose is too high? A week ago I went up to 80 mg. I'm thinking about going back down to 75. Also I'm getting nausea and headaches and sometimes just a very weird feeling. Anyone else have this? The methadone has seemed to be really helping me and for a while I was really feeling great but I think maybe it's just too high of a dose. Like right now I can barely keep my eyes open and kinda afraid to go to sleep as you hear so many horror stories :-( If anyone sees this tonight would you please advise? It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

 

[Erikmen]

Maybe. You normally start low and build your way up. I've never really nodded off on methadone.
I did quickly become tolerant to that and it took me years to get off.
It gave me a false sense of normality and with time I thought I was off drugs and having a perfect life. That wasn't true.
I was deeply addicted to it and started to have a lot of side effects. And the routine with MMT was driving me crazy.
The thought of having to deal with that everyday for the rest of my life was intolerable, so was quitting.

 

[Jabberwocky]

if youre nodding youre on way too much methadone, man.

you also catch a serious NOD when coming off methadone; when I maxed out at 95MG I was completely fine; never a problem in the world. when coming off methadone and around 45-55MG I was NODDDDDDDDDDDDDING like a motherfucker right at my desk at work; I looked like a straight junkbox but its just part of the taper, unfortunately.

but yes, if youre nodding as you UP the dosage then you are going a bit too high.

youre at 80MG done'. how much dope/oxy/perc/whatever were u doing?

 

[Siouxjenn4]

So I was on methadone for 5 yrs, started detoxing at 115 down 1mg a week then when I got 30 went down 2 mg weekly. Stopped going when I got down to 6mg (I know, dumb but costs 300 a mo) and now im still going thru w/d. Yesterday and today I took 3 .5 klonozapam to ease the w/d. It takes the edge off but im worried that ill have a new addiction. I only plan on doing them for another day or two.any insight helps

 

[Siouxjenn4]

. And the routine with MMT was driving .[/QUOTE]
can u tell me what MMT is please

 

[Jabberwocky]

lol, its methadone maintenance treatment - I take it you dont do drugs? lol

Sioux - did you get a HARD NOD when coming down? you were on 110 so you must of hit a nod on the way down between 30-50>

 

[Siouxjenn4]

No, not I have done hard drugs and tons of them ( monthly had a script for 240 oxy 30 & 30 80mg oxycontin and would be gone in 7-10 days!) When I'd run out I'd do at least 10 bags of dope. Went on methadone to stop everything but in my naivete didnt realize the methadone is just as bad

 

[Siouxjenn4]

And no nod whatsoever once I was under 45mg, just felt "normal" until I stopped and now feel like I'm back where I started

 

[Jabberwocky]

wow, had a good run w/ those pills, huh!? you shooting that dope? 10 bags? so only a G, right? crazy how a G made you "good" but yet you seemed to down so many more pills than you did dope. be happy you are almost off and eventually things will change.. I can promise that.

no matter what you use, aside from Vivitrol, there is always a withdrawal to get off the drug which makes you get off the other drug, lol. kinda funny the way that works but he only thing is that it keeps you from going broke since it comes at a much better price than buying dope off the street, ha.

 

[Siouxjenn4]

What is vivitrol? And what does it do?

 

[Erikmen]

So I was on methadone for 5 yrs, started detoxing at 115 down 1mg a week then when I got 30 went down 2 mg weekly. Stopped going when I got down to 6mg (I know, dumb but costs 300 a mo) and now im still going thru w/d. Yesterday and today I took 3 .5 klonozapam to ease the w/d. It takes the edge off but im worried that ill have a new addiction. I only plan on doing them for another day or two.any insight helps

I was too on methadone for years and decreased it considerably before quitting. IMO/E you will need medical support.
Suggest you look for a doctor that can follow up your detoxing so that you can have prescriptions of different medications you'll need during recovery. And until you are stable. It could be dealt initially with benzodiazepines, Gabapentin and other meds that will help you go through this and feel better.
Methadone withdrawal symptoms last longer than other opiates and you need to be patient. Some ppl feel the lack of endorphin even after physical withdraw but it gets better with time. So I wouldn't worry about new addictions right now.
Focus on coming off methadone, the rest will be much easier.

 

[Siouxjenn4]

So im taking 1 .05 mg colozapam to shake off some of the w/d. Praying I'm not trading one addiction for another
also, what is vivitrol?