exxplorer - Wow I don't know where you went to jail, Belgium? That sounds like the best jail experience in the world. I have been to jail in America multiple times in different states withdrawing off opiates and they do not give you shit here.. the fact that you were actually allowed to smoke hash and given methadone and benzos, sounds like a nice vacation. The co's (correction officers) here just laugh at you when you are sweating and shaking on your pad. I am blown away by that story. Going back to jail is something that I am super afraid of because I know how horrible it will be, but if it was like that here I wouldn't even worry that much. So in a way maybe that's the only good part of it being so bad.
Yes in Belgium, here they have obligation to give you Methadone, because many went crazy when cold turkey and there where many "accidents", and suicide rate was high, that's why in isolation you don't have anything to make a knot, nor metal object or plastic that can be broken (to make sharp tools, to attack or to make suicide).
Just to add, here hygienics conditions are horrible (don't know in the US?) ! If you are not sick because of withdrawal, you will be sick from the food, water (no-one drinks it, nor the chiefs, you need to buy water bottles), and all around condition, very old jails, lot of humidity, fungus on the walls, and walls fall in small or big particles...you wake up full of dust, your sheets are almost always wet... showers are horrible...so hum, everyone get sick at some point, when they come in; time to adjust to the "shit you live in now".
Earlier; some years before, they would go down 10-15 mg per week, no-one could say something, it was like that, but they had people going mad, and aggressive, and the "medical order" signed for a gradual taper, slower than 10 per week, it went to +/- 15mg per month, and if you don't want to have less, they have to obey to you (curious no?! haha, in jail they obey to you! ho haha), you should get the dosage your feel comfortable with ;at least for some time, after 2 or 3 months you will be sent to an toxicologist and you will have to withdraw from it, much quicker, like the previous 20mg per week, so no-one really play the game of "I need more, I can't go down now..", you pay it.
(Maybe contract with pharmaceutical industries?, for example, I pay 0.99$ to get my prescription, 30 pills of whatever dosage (same price for 120mg pills than 20 mg pills...but it's not really expensive..no?); You know here in prisons have been tested some chemicals in food, like oestrogens, to calm people down, to be less aggressive, but it was later forbidden, and there is anecdotal infos about that; but many chiefs (you call them the " co's ", here they are chiefs) knew they did that, and scientifics would come to have a scale of "aggressivity", and adjust dosage.
Don't take it wrong, yes you can smoke hash, you are 24/24h in a 8m² chamber with bed, table... and a mate, so you have maybe 2m to walk like a chicken (it was a joke in there
) and if you can smoke hash (easier to bring..you know), it's not with all chiefs, you know who is OK, more like that during night, because they know they are alone...like 2 men for 25-30 persons, and that it can go really bad for them, until the police or special forces come in..if some prisoners"take the power" of the section, at least they put the chiefs in real danger (they have no guns, forbidden..), and help always take some time to come, and people know that here, so there are many chiefs taken as ostage to get out, nobody talks about it, but they are afraid of that...it happens, and it's not gentle, so there are many who are OK with you if you smoke and don't do shit, stoned you are friendly, they said, (that's why they give tranquillizers to inmates, there are not enough people to handle them all) ; and if you play the "respect me man! Don't talk shit bla bla" it won't go well, you can get 5 to 10 (if I'm correct) years more for having pot in prison, and consume it, and more so if you sell (or even let some-one smoke, they say its "free selling" haha...)), so it's double edge, most are OK with that, but you have to show them real respect, so they can be a bit confident with you, other people don't have that chance, and go sent in another prison, "Lantin", the worst prison here in Belgium, there.. you will not smoke that many, if at all (but you know, in Belgian prisons there are a lot of drugs, many corrupted chiefs, you really find whatever you want, but you it's expensive)), in "Lantin" there are rats everywhere, it's known to be the "end game", one of the oldest prison, the dirty one, the place the Belgian don't talk about... there are just people with many many years of jail, mad people, and so one, and it's somehow a mix between a high dicipline prison completely in ruin; and a psychiatrist hospital, it's the worst of the two. There are people in straight jacket and legs tied, for one week, eating like dogs, peeing and yeah...then put in isolation chamber for more weeks, and finally released in their jail, I've heard so many thinks from people who went there, it's the "Belgian 'Guantanamo' ", there is no respect at all, and I don't remember anyone escaping from there.
If you have troubles here, never never get put there, only thing to remember in case of troubles, but everyone will let you know, don't worry.
Ask for Flemish prisons (in the Nord) (you won't understand something, they are highly racists, but have new prisons, less dirty
and better food! really).
Or go down in Wallonia for more "friendly" prisons (except "Lantin" you will be able to smoke etc, and they are not racists).
I highly suggest black people not to get locked in the Nord, by the Flemish, you won't get a good time there, really).
Where I was (I was 2 months there, not 6 weeks, don't know why I thought about 6 weeks? !Maybe because it was when I got a really bad news from my lawyer, but it went good, as I got out 2 weeks after, he thought I would be catched for longer, it's almost always like that...you are in prison without judgment, just waiting for it, I was waiting medical examinations of my neightboor to dismiss me in that story, but it went horribly wront when they said there was Methadone and I had one pill missing it was not true!!
EDIT: now toxicologic data says there was no drug who would be implied in his death, so it's "natural" and linked to his lifestyle, alcoholic, using multiples drugs....)), it happened 2 times that someone was put in straight jacket, legs tied, and put in an complete isolation room, when you see that, it has a immediate calming effect...hum (there is nothing, just all metal, with a toilet you can't use (tied), so it smells like hell in there, but the longer one was put in there was 4 days (the other was 2 days, and then send in another " normal isolation room" (he is just alone), but have a bed and everything, like a normal jail, but you'r alone...why not, it's not that hard...you stay there for 6-7 days usually (seeing no-one, locked 24/24...like every-one else, 24//24 or 22h if you are lucky and you don't are in shower while you can get out for 2hours...(in the early morning); the other guy got 4 days, for rebellion , tied like said (he injured another inmate and a chief, put fire on bed).
But he was later sent to "Lantin"...so I don't know what happened next, there is no much infos getting out of there.
So yeah, you know when it's Ok, there are chiefs (I remember one, he was called "Rambo", and it was the right name for him), you won't play with him, and you won't smoke. So you see who is there for night shift.
It's a bit like a game, and after sometimes you don't give a fuck about that all, that's why many chiefs don't have balls there, it's not there play, they should be in garden-school.
So yeah, once you know the few "bad chiefs", and all the other who won't say something if you smoke, sometimes they send a "poisonous joke"..like "this one smells a lot more, no? It should be good quality, so, when I come back you may sleep, or at least you won't smoke more...no?" So you know you can smoke one last, before they (2) come back to check you; if you still smoke, it can go bad, they said it in a "joke"..but first step, they take your joint, and put it into the toilet, to tell "now it's over", if you persist, and still roll one, good bye for some days, and good luck, because it's a loss of respect.
I remember one day, before being with the nice mate who smoked with me, I was with a psychopath who could not smell pot.
But I got a lot of hash, before the dealer went send to Montegnegro to get in jail for 6 years more...we where all sad for him, he was a good guy; so has he knew he will go, I got a good piece of hash for the price! (about 1.5-2g instead of 0.3g).
When I just entered into there, I could smoke, awaiting my room with this other guy.
So I told him "Man, instead of smoking all nights as I would do to sleep, I will just smoke one big joint today so I'm not annoying you, ok? I don't smoke later; just this night and you'r good, I do that for you, elsewere I would smoke all nights...".
But I roll a mega big joint haha, the room was so full of smoke (instead of the windows open), that one the chief came in, claming we had fire in the room, it thought it was a cigarette let in on the bed, I just finished the joint when he came in into panic, that night everyone in the section was smelling it (there was no hash for some days at that moment, I was the last to have a good amount of it, he brought really strong hash, so he could sell a bit less, and bring it into prison more safely) haha it was so funny, everyone was talking about the "false fire, room full of ganja smoke...."; but my mate was not really in a good mood..it was a good thing that I went with this guy who went my friend after.
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