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Meth/Amphetamines: Serious Discussion Only

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drug_wench said:
sorry havnt bn on this thread for awhile - just checking in
meths the one thing i still crave, now im off dexies and on suboxone
one thing that cures meth cravings for me is taking my mind off it - being with my boy does this.....same with my dogs or my horse
gorgoroth - hats off to u.....ive seen u come along leaps and bounds since u joined BL and i think ur a winner
ull beat that shit - uve got it in u
much luv and prayer for strength to all out there struggling with this awful drug
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thanks dw! just curious why did they take you off d amphetamine?
 
take benzodiazepines, if not, go to hospital asap.
it depends on tolerance though, heavily. if your amphetamine naiive, go to the hospital.
 
gorgoroth said:
thanks dw! just curious why did they take you off d amphetamine?
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it was one of the conditions of starting suboxone maintenance
fuck knows why
i guess they werent happy with the idea of me being on so many meds
its frustrating, as my ADHD is going mental although weirdly its not as bad as it was prior to dexamphetamine treatment but then someone in another thread said suboxone stimulates dopamine receptors or something so maybe that cud hav something to do with it - cud also b partly why they wanted me off the dexies
as far as pinkfloyds dose of adderall goes - i dont know wats a normal dose of adderall but if thats a high dose and ur not a regular amphetamine user, u r best off in the ER, esp if u hav any of these symptoms:
-irregular heartbeat
-high temperature
-hallucinations
-pain in ur kidney area
-shortness of breath/pain in chest
keep urself as hydrated as possible and breathe slowly from ur diaphragm to keep ur heartrate down as much as poss
 
gotcha, i'm cool with my 60 mg/day mostly. My other major drug of choice is Temazepam, I posted a story about my temazepam addiction, which lasted maybe 3 years. I do not remember most of it so alot is left out, i'm on 250 milligrams of temazepam so I can't really find the story I just posted.
 
id luv to read that story gorgoroth - is it in TDS?
i hope oneday u can conquer both addictions fully but one at a time will do - im proud of wat uve done with the meth.....all of us ex-methheads will know that was no easy feat
the 60mg dexies helps with cravings (well it helped me) but it never quite replaces meth, esp wen uve got the ADHD (u hav ADHD right?) so u hav a naturally high amphetamine tolerance!
 
dont worry claire
just stop the binge now
throw out the gear, come down (i know, not so fun) and get a gd sleep
tomorrow (or whenever u wake up) is another day
 
Gear almost gone about a point left, one last pipe then I am done (I gotta get through the day unfortunately or else I would not use it) eh I've done alright.
Got into a super rage the other night, got super violent and started tearing up my house destroying cutlery and tearing up everything in sight.
I have really bad anger issues lately, everything gets to me and I get really, really violent and psychotic.
It scary :| Any advice? Should I talk to a doctor? It's happening basically every 2nd day but this time something really bad set me off.
 
claire22 said:
Got into a super rage the other night, got super violent and started tearing up my house destroying cutlery and tearing up everything in sight.
I have really bad anger issues lately, everything gets to me and I get really, really violent and psychotic.
It scary :| Any advice? Should I talk to a doctor? It's happening basically every 2nd day but this time something really bad set me off.
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Maybe something to do with the drinking?
 
drug_wench said:
id luv to read that story gorgoroth - is it in TDS?
i hope oneday u can conquer both addictions fully but one at a time will do - im proud of wat uve done with the meth.....all of us ex-methheads will know that was no easy feat
the 60mg dexies helps with cravings (well it helped me) but it never quite replaces meth, esp wen uve got the ADHD (u hav ADHD right?) so u hav a naturally high amphetamine tolerance!
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I fucking love temazepam, I prefer it over any opiate, I find the stronger ones to produce awful nausea, and constipation, and I absolutely loathe the itchiness. Temazepam has an onset time on par with Triazolam, IME. It's intermediate acting, for me it lasts around 4-6 hours. I find it produces a dreamlike state similar to pentobarbital, it's muscle relaxing proprieties are extremely powerful to me, it's the best thing for amphetamine comedown/withdrawal.
It's also fairly toxic and could probably kill you if you took enough (a gargantuan dosage), unless other benzodiazepines with probably 3 exceptions. I started using it at 16 and it's warm dreamy high I became addicted to. At one point I was eating 6-700 mg or so of temazepam a day.
I even injected temazepam, which I know is a horrible mistake, it's rush was alarmingly awesome. But I got a bad infection from it, I almost required amputation. Thankfully, I recovered. I still continued to use it daily, it became a huge problem for me.
It was my major drug of choice along with methamphetamine, and dextroamphetamine. Its withdrawal was severe to the point of complete psychosis, i had 3 or 4 seizures from the withdrawal, it was delerium, I actually suffered a form of brain damage, after 6 months following discontinuation I recovered from it. I think temazepam, nimetazepam, and to a lesser extent, flunitrazepam and nitrazepam are the only major benzodiazepines of abuse (as in primary drug of choice).
it's very widespread in the UK, scotland, Switzerland, Poland, Africa, Australia, Russia, Belarus, Unkraine, Argentina, Chille, China. I was a hopeless case with temazepam for 2 years or so. I still take temazepam to sleep, 30 mg a night, but I sometimes go up to 120 or so. I warn everyone against this drug, it's a powerful drug up there with the other major drugs of abuse (cocaine, (meth)amphetamine, heroin, alcohol) in my opinion. Here In Newfoundland, it is on the illicit market often, along with diazepam. Although it's not that widespread. Temazepam is extremely addictive to me, my 2nd DOC, next to Methamphetamine, dextroamphetamine i'd place in third. It's advantages over the other benzodiazepines are it's quick onset, much more pronounced sedation and muscle relaxation, and a higher effectiveness for anxiolysis. In my experience. I have snorted temazepam, injected it, mostly ate it though. I also used it rectally and tried smoking it, which didn't work. The normisson jellies are the iv'able ones. I have suffered through horrific addiction and hell due to the temazepam. Almost as much as I have suffered from methamphetamine.


Temazepams strong shit
 
thanks for the info guys :) i think this shit i bought is just weird in some way, gets me high but keeps giving me all these weird symptoms (heart burn, stomach cramps, and my circulation is a lot worse than it normally is on this stuff) that even though they're all normal symptoms i've never experiened in doing this stuff....?

claire- were you drinking and using at the same time? the combo of alcohol and meth makes me WEIRD... i just want to have sex like i've never felt before, become aggressive, and just do weird shit (like leaving my apartment at 2 AM to go wander the streets alone). i don't normally become violent or physically agressive on this stuff that drinking on it just makes me crazy. so maybe the combo?
feel better girly :(
 
^ Nope Mia I was sober when I went into that rage. Even scarier, then I went and bought a few grams. Since quitting (although I am on my third day of a massive binge..) I have been a crazy person, totally psycho. I had some mild alcohol w/d's the other day they sucked. Vomiting everywhere. Haven't drank in 3 days 'cos I am back on the meth. I am in the bad paranoid stage. Hating it :( I've had 5 grams over 3 days I am going totally nuts. I think I need rehab:(
 
:(
i'm sorry to hear you're a having a bad time. how long were you clean before this relapse?
if you're not opposed to rehab and you feel like you're out of control, i'm an advocate... helped me immensely.... pm if you ever want help/advice/just want to vent :)
 
I will make this my last day. I am feeling sick and yucky, anxious, shaky. Not much fun. I was clean for exactly three weeks, although I have been trying to quit for about 2 months or so. Have been on-off. Thanks for the support<3 I really need it right now :( I hate these days, I feel like I am going to completely fall apart soon.
 
i know how you feel, i've had some really bad nights this week too. :(
it's not a solution, but when i feel like i'm at breaking point or going crazy, i just remind myself that's the drugs fucking with my brain. it's weird/annoying that this drug can make you SO happy and SO depressed, but it's completely artifical.
eat some food, drink water, and get some sleep, take the advice you gave me :)
 
Gonna pop a seroquel soon, just going to drag out the high as much as possible.. will be the last time I feel it for awhile. Sigh. This drug is evil evil evil. Has a grasp over me , it really is something else.. more than anything else I have ever tried. Thanks for the advice & such :) I had some gelati (mango;)) and lots of coffee, and a few slices of watermelon. Feel a bit better now, but I am in that shit anxiety/paranoia phase.
 
claire - one of the major side effects of methamphetamine is aggression
ive bn so aggressive ive done some really nasty things in the past esp wen psychotic and/or coming down
if u want to get off meth after a 6 yr habit it will b hard to go it alone - obviously its ideal that u do rehab or go to a 12-step group for awhile if ur constantly relapsing or turning to the bottle
i cudnt hav got off meth if it wasnt for a combination of rehabs, detoxes, NA, focussing hardout on my healthy hobbies (esp my horse) and intensive drug counselling
and i still constantly relapsed at first
dont ever b too proud to ask for help
cos meth is an addictive drug, and i dont know anyone whos gone it alone
my advice is to seek help somewhere
 
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