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Meth/Amphetamines: Serious Discussion Only

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leftwing said:
hey zephyr and claire, are you guys prescribed seroquel predominately for sleep issues? or is it for mental health problems? i'm just wondering because when i was suffering from depression and get insomnia my dr never hesitates to prescribe me temazepam or valium even though he knows ive had addiction problems with it before.

im just curious.
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Its not for depression, its for returning your sanity. It doesnt do much for insomnia at small doses. The starting dose is 25mg. It stops the craziness and fixation and depersonalisation that meth and other drug use sometimes causes by stopping the serotonon and noradrenalin pathways fucking up, basically.

Larger doses at night do make you sleep.

Even larger doses knock down the most psychotic of meth users. I had to give one (100mg) to a friend who had been up for over a week and was getting aggressive as he thought everyone there at the time was trying to get to him via hacking his computer. He was very upset. He thought I was trying to poison him, so I explained to him that it was to calm him down as he was not enjoying himself. He eventually took it and it was like watching an elephant that had been rampaging being shot with a tranquilizer dart. He just- slumped on the couch, still trying to talk, then slowly stopped talking and fell asleep for about 12 hours.

Ive been on it for many months. Its not something you want to be dependant on for a long time but it will be a while yet before I come off it.
 
I actually ALMOST relapsed yesterday, I had a syringe full of high quality methamphetamine ready for intravenous injection. Guess what I did? I smashed it against the wall I got fucking angry at it, for the hell I caused myself because of it. I yelled at the drug, I cursed on it an told it to fuck off! I was so proud afterwards.
 
gorgoroth said:
I actually ALMOST relapsed yesterday, I had a syringe full of high quality methamphetamine ready for intravenous injection. Guess what I did? I smashed it against the wall I got fucking angry at it, for the hell I caused myself because of it. I yelled at the drug, I cursed on it an told it to fuck off! I was so proud afterwards.
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Dude, that is AMAZING! Good show, good show indeed!
 
LOL @ Zeph's last 2 posts!

Nice job gorgoroth! I once did something similar with H and I think I got an even better high by throwing it out than I did by doing it.
 
I admitted to myself and my girlfriend that I'm getting worn out by the lifestyle a bit. It's fun, but damn, does it take it's toll. It's, unfortunaetly, become more of a job now than anything. Routine, routine, routine. Regardless, this weekend's already set to go. The pace is a lot slower now, though.
 
Great work man. Don't think I could turn down a bunch of meth if I had it right in front of me, that's some willpower right there.
 
sorry havnt bn on this thread for awhile - just checking in
meths the one thing i still crave, now im off dexies and on suboxone
one thing that cures meth cravings for me is taking my mind off it - being with my boy does this.....same with my dogs or my horse
gorgoroth - hats off to u.....ive seen u come along leaps and bounds since u joined BL and i think ur a winner
ull beat that shit - uve got it in u
much luv and prayer for strength to all out there struggling with this awful drug
 
I'm no speed freak but I love the occasional adderall dose.

I just got 7 30mg xr pills for $20 which is pretty legit considering it's midterms and people are selling pills for up to $10 A PILL hahah, my dude's chill tho.
 
need some advice from all you vets.... never had this happen to me before in five years of using this stuff....
woke up this morning and ate a couple pieces of dried mango and half a bran muffin, snorted some meth and about ten minutes later my stomach was killing me.
i've felt naeseous from this shit , even after i've just used, but not stomach cramps... it was so painful that i ended up leaving work early to come home. it's been about five hours since my stomach first started hurting, and i've been forcing myself to eat in hopes it will make it better (surprisingly food helped quite a bit).
anyway, just wondering why this may have happened, if i did something to set it off? because this is not a normal side effect of this drug for me. :\ and... what will help my stomach stop hurting? (besides eating...)
 
mia - stomach cramps can b a side effect of amphetamine (particularly methamphetamine) use
often accompanyied by nausea....usually wen uve reached the point where ur tweaking and r heading towards the comedown
sometimes i used to get so bad id dry-retch
its often a sign of poorly-cut or bunk gear
i always noticed the purer the meth the less nausea/cramps i got
not evryone gets these side effects and i didnt always get them.....they developed later in my meth habit as it got more serious and i used more often
i dont know how often or how long uve bn using but it is a side effect
and it will go away
 
**hAyzzZZ** said:
God I haven't had speed in so fucking long.

I almost don't even miss it anymore. :\
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That is a phrase that will come out of my mouth in the future.
Nowt like a positive attitude eh!
As for the present, if drug addiction was like a game of snakes and ladders, I landed on a snake which said, 'go back to day 1', as I had some base yesterday, amisdt my weeks of speedlessness.
I just got fed up of the empty mindedness, and the unexplainable feelings of sadness, so yesterday was a little break from my break of speed.
:)
Today, however, I threw the dice again, and moved forward one place. (first 24hrs clean)

sorry for the corny analogies, its my way of trying to write creatively.
 
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doesnt matter if u hav the odd relapse here and there 3dmusic - the main thing is ur trying to get clean from base
i think the analogies r quite clever actually
keep heading towards those ladders and eventually ull reach the finish line
im 15 months off meth (or something like that) and i still wake craving a hit evry morning, no fail
i hav a beautiful man who loves me to death lying beside me and do i think about him? no....meth
thats meth addiction for u
i do a lot of self-talk and remind myself how awful the comedowns were but sometimes i still just crave like crazy
esp now im off my dexies
it makes me feel a little guilty that i think about meth before paul but he says he understands - hes seen meth fuck up a lot of ppl (most ppl know someone fucked on meth in this country....)
 
mrs_mia_wallace said:
need some advice from all you vets.... never had this happen to me before in five years of using this stuff....
woke up this morning and ate a couple pieces of dried mango and half a bran muffin, snorted some meth and about ten minutes later my stomach was killing me.
i've felt naeseous from this shit , even after i've just used, but not stomach cramps... it was so painful that i ended up leaving work early to come home. it's been about five hours since my stomach first started hurting, and i've been forcing myself to eat in hopes it will make it better (surprisingly food helped quite a bit).
anyway, just wondering why this may have happened, if i did something to set it off? because this is not a normal side effect of this drug for me. :\ and... what will help my stomach stop hurting? (besides eating...)
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Cramps of any sort are a well known amphetamine side effect, much more common with chronic use. Yes, although eating is almost IMPOSSIBLE on speed, it DOES make you feel better, I'd also recommend Vitamin b12 supplements, and Dopamine and magnesium supplements. Amphetamines are probably the hardest drug on your body, those things can reduce that, the most important thing is to DRINK LOTS OF WATER! this might not be a normal side effect for you, but it can manifest itself quite randomly. I'd leave it alone and try to deal with it for 24 hours without using amphetamines, if you aren't better, seek treatment, it could just be something quite basic really.
 
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