fastandbulbous
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A common mistake, after all alcohol is legal and so are cigarettes and look at the dfamage they cause
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A common mistake, after all alcohol is legal and so are cigarettes and look at the dfamage they cause
pofacedhoe
Bluelight Crew
to assume that something is safe because it is legal is ridiculous. do you think the government care about your health? no- cos if you die rather than need an operation it saves them money. its cost benefit analysis-hence alcohol and tobacco which bring in huge quantities of tax that balances out the damage they cause.
when you put something into your body the onus is on you to judge its safety and that is called being responsible for your own health.
too many people nowadays think the nanny sate is there to think for them (as well as pay their rent). i dont trust government and i will look after myself. i did a lot of mephedrone in the last year and i knew it was unhealthy and risky and i did it anyway (and wanked myself silly). i have cut it out but cant be sure i wont relapse although my honeymoon is most definitely over. i never thought it was safe but couldn't help my greedy nose with this extremely addictive hard drug and thats simply that![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
in fact the stupidest example of this drug (and its crazy behaviour in its users) was with a guy i met in brighton who had little clue what it was, bought it on the street and called it megatron
when you put something into your body the onus is on you to judge its safety and that is called being responsible for your own health.
too many people nowadays think the nanny sate is there to think for them (as well as pay their rent). i dont trust government and i will look after myself. i did a lot of mephedrone in the last year and i knew it was unhealthy and risky and i did it anyway (and wanked myself silly). i have cut it out but cant be sure i wont relapse although my honeymoon is most definitely over. i never thought it was safe but couldn't help my greedy nose with this extremely addictive hard drug and thats simply that
in fact the stupidest example of this drug (and its crazy behaviour in its users) was with a guy i met in brighton who had little clue what it was, bought it on the street and called it megatron
ebola?
Bluelight Crew
To echo others, I would henceforth assume that legal means "relatively uncharted territory" when it comes to 'research chemicals'.
ebola
matterofperception
Bluelighter
^ HAHA nice one:D
Swim hasnt being using mephedrone very long, swim started a few months ago and liked it up until recently the past few times swim has taken it they have had purple knees.
The first time swim experienced discolouration to the knees they had not taken alot of meth, they had done under half a gram, snorting 50mg lines every 30-40mins along with taking 1mg of gbl every 1h-1h30, swim started to notice knees turning purple and knuckles turning dark redish/brown swim stopped taking meth and went to bed, the next day swim knees and knuckles were back to normal colour.
Swims most recent experience was a few days ago it started about 8pm with 2x50mg lines but effects seemed to last longer than normal
swim redosed at 9pm with 2x50mg lines
swim redosed again around 10:30pm with 1x70mg line and a 1mg of gbl which gave me the eye wiggles again effects lasted longer :D
at around midnight swim mixed 250mg into water and drank it aswell as 1x1mg gbl and was up for around 2-2h30
swim then noticed discolouration of knees and and veins were more prominent on legs and hands, but stupidly swim carried on sniffing swim never usually feinds but once the 250mg mixed in water wore off swim carried on doing 2x50mg lines every hour with 1x1mg gbl but effects seemed to be wearing off quicker this carried on right up until 11pm the next night when swim took 1mg gbl and went to sleep.
The next day swim experienced occasional heart pains and knees were still darker than normal, not purple but dark red, skin was also very blotchy, hearts pains stopped by the end of the day and veins had gone back to normal, swim me noticed slight pains around the knee area aswell.
This experience has scared swim from using mephedrone again even though swim loves the feeling and will find it hard to resist.
The first time swim experienced discolouration to the knees they had not taken alot of meth, they had done under half a gram, snorting 50mg lines every 30-40mins along with taking 1mg of gbl every 1h-1h30, swim started to notice knees turning purple and knuckles turning dark redish/brown swim stopped taking meth and went to bed, the next day swim knees and knuckles were back to normal colour.
Swims most recent experience was a few days ago it started about 8pm with 2x50mg lines but effects seemed to last longer than normal
swim redosed at 9pm with 2x50mg lines
swim redosed again around 10:30pm with 1x70mg line and a 1mg of gbl which gave me the eye wiggles again effects lasted longer :D
at around midnight swim mixed 250mg into water and drank it aswell as 1x1mg gbl and was up for around 2-2h30
swim then noticed discolouration of knees and and veins were more prominent on legs and hands, but stupidly swim carried on sniffing swim never usually feinds but once the 250mg mixed in water wore off swim carried on doing 2x50mg lines every hour with 1x1mg gbl but effects seemed to be wearing off quicker this carried on right up until 11pm the next night when swim took 1mg gbl and went to sleep.
The next day swim experienced occasional heart pains and knees were still darker than normal, not purple but dark red, skin was also very blotchy, hearts pains stopped by the end of the day and veins had gone back to normal, swim me noticed slight pains around the knee area aswell.
This experience has scared swim from using mephedrone again even though swim loves the feeling and will find it hard to resist.
ebola?
Bluelight Crew
We don't go SWIMming here. Otherwise, this appears a useful report, particularly in terms of the illustration that continued redosing despite noted alarming symptoms provides.
Captain.Heroin
Bluelight Crew
Yeah, but then there's also drugs where we all know the risks and yet people continue to use it. Alcohol and tobacco being excellent examples.
People will still abuse 4-MMC in the future as long as online vendors sell it at prices where a gram of it is cheaper than a pack of cigarettes.
LOL, well said.
Welcome to Substance D.
I would guess not.
However you could probably say the same thing about heroin, and for about a year I would have said "yes it is worth doing - give me the dope, here's the money!". Now I'm 15 months clean.
There's a reason people go through drug experiences in their lives, whether they are positive or negative or mixed. So I won't judge people who choose to use 4-MMC but I don't think it's a smart decision, at least until we know more definitively about the long term effects.
Anything should be taken in moderation, but a lot of people don't follow this popular mantra, sadly.
I have also tried MDMA (at 200mg orally), done plenty of heroin and speed balls too, I recently tried meth as well (did crack once and hated it), but specifically the most euphoric experience I have had is IV MDA at 100mg.
I don't think I would like mephedrone, I don't normally like stimulants. I have only done MDMA a handful of times, and it pales in comparison to the single MDA experience I have had. I prefer intense psychedelic experiences, and while mushrooms and LSD last a long time, they aren't as intense as IV'd MDA in my opinion (they can be similarly intense but you'd have to take a lot to get there, I prefer taking smaller doses and getting a lot out of it still).
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fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
I do, in fact I'd go as far as to say I love stims, but I'm still not putting any of this stuff in my body. There's a risk/assessment line I will not cross and mephedrone is on the other side IMO
been head
Bluelighter
^ you consider mdpv alot safer than meph then ?
ebola?
Bluelight Crew
Sort a qualitative difference. Our knowledge of MDPV is backed by a few studies showing it to likely be physically benign-ish compared to other DARIs. However, it has a high propensity to induce compulsive binges that end in train-wrecks, inordinate anxiety, and the like.
Mephedrone appears more cardiovascularly toxic than other really dangerous stimulants, and as of yet lacks clinical research into its effects, barring 1 study showing it to metabolize to something very dangerous in vivo.
If you dislike getting injuries or dying, you should be able to tell which one's safer.
ebola
Mephedrone appears more cardiovascularly toxic than other really dangerous stimulants, and as of yet lacks clinical research into its effects, barring 1 study showing it to metabolize to something very dangerous in vivo.
If you dislike getting injuries or dying, you should be able to tell which one's safer.
ebola
been head
Bluelighter
methylone is supposed to be alot safer than meph apparantly but i dont seem to get any bad side effects from meph atall and with m1 i do. maybe its down to the individual.
ive never done over 700mg of meph in a nite tho so maybe thats why i havnt had any negative side effects, plus im 13 stone so maybe i can just handle more ?
ive never done over 700mg of meph in a nite tho so maybe thats why i havnt had any negative side effects, plus im 13 stone so maybe i can just handle more ?
ebola?
Bluelight Crew
There's idiosyncratic variation, but it's 'Russian Roulette'...and people tend to begin to experience more nasty reactions after several uses.
pofacedhoe
Bluelight Crew
yep, i tend to get far worse short term effects off methylone (intense psychosis and terrible rough stomach) but the weird blue vassoconstriction is mephedrone specific (breathless, blue knees etc.) i seem to get is less than a lot of peopelbut still its very odd and feels toxic (skin peeling off your lips towards end of binge)
just plain wrong ( and i've probably had over 200grams in the last two years so i have a fair personal experience to base this on)
Yeah methylone is capable of making you feel completely psychotic, mephedrone feels alot more benign, but then again if meph induces some weird side effects it seems there to stay (blueness returning when taking another stim) while after a day, your fully recovered from the methylone.
ebola?
Bluelight Crew
how much methylone do you guys take?
I've seen jittery and fiendy, but psychotic?
I also feel fine the next morning from either (with 250 mg the limit for a 'sitting').
I've seen jittery and fiendy, but psychotic?
I also feel fine the next morning from either (with 250 mg the limit for a 'sitting').
I took too much (1 gram) fiending phase and not feeling much effects from it anymore led me to taking that much. I know its allright if you stick to low doses but it gets sketchy pretty fast.
Do you keep on taking the same dose or take more/less after some redoses?
fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
Way safer - as a rule psychological fuck ups can be made right again, not so much for physiological fuck ups