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[Mega] The "Why won't MDMA work for me?" thread

tubby strangely...i have no explanation (and i am not in aus so i dunno bout ya pills...) but pretty much the same thing happened to me...the first pill i ever took was an orange g's up, tested/PR to be MDMA...didn't feel much, however the 2nd time i took the same pill from the same source bought at the same time, i properly felt it.
so i dunno
 
Immune to MDMA effects. Am I alone?

Hello Bluelight members,

I am a new member, so please forgive my clumsy Bluelight etiquette if I commit any heinous forum faux pas.

I come to you with a question that has been plaguing me for years. Why does MDMA not affect me?

Ever since I first heard of it, I have been besotted with the idea of this drug. Musicians that inspire me cite their first MDMA experience as 'life-changing', friends of mine report having their worlds turned upside down by the beauty of their first night on it.

At the last count, I think I have had 7 encounters with what was purportedly MDMA. Each time, I have felt either no effect, or simply a side effect.

The first experience I put down to 'dud pills'. The second time this happened, I was somewhat frustrated, as my pill partners were writhing around me in ecstacy, and I felt nothing but a little dysphoria and prickly body heat. The next day I suffered a moderate comedown. I was beginning to suspect something was awry.

The fourth and fifth times cemented my concern. Does this drug just not affect me? Is this possible?

February this year, I hear the tales of a group of 6 of my friends and their experience with MDMA. They describe what they believe could be the greatest night out of their lives; a game-changer in terms of drug experiences. 'I'll never touch mephedrone again' claims one person. 'This was just the greatest feeling, so clean, so perfect'.

My interest is piqued. Perhaps I have been let down in the past because I've never had the 'real thing'. There is no disputing that what my friends are describing is the real thing.

I buy a gram of the very same, and I give it a try. the first 100mg line does nothing, so an hour and a half later I take a much larger bomb. Some time later I'm still waiting to come up so I line up and bomb the rest and even try plugging some it to get some effect. Eventually I have taken around 500mg in various methods. I am kept up all night with an awful body load, I chew my tongue and lips until they are swollen and the next day I feel awful.

MDMA has failed me, and this time I cannot dispute it.

Has anyone ever had this problem themselves? Have you ever known anyone to have 100% tolerance to the drug?

It saddens me to think that i'll never experience something that has brought so much joy to those that have tried it.
 
The sad thing is that mdma doesnt work for some people.
Sometimes it has to do with meds you're taking. Are you on any antidepressants?
 
^ I also echo Keaton. Sometimes if you expect too much from it, it wont take you anywhere. Relax, clear your mind, allow it to take you wherever it likes, dont try and control it and "make you" trip. The more I feel I should be buzzing, the longer it takes for me to peak....
 
Technically, it is possible for your CYP2D6 enzyme to have little or no function.

Does this mean if you're asian you may have more of a chance of it not working as good for you? This may explain why my friend doesn't seem to get nearly as high or euphoric as most of our other friends while taking the same stuff.
 
My friend got these tested down at his school apparently the yellow ones contain PMA and the green have DXM, they also contain a little MDMA, Methoxy, bzp, and some more other drugs that i don't remember. I personally chewed 2 green and 2 yellow ones a while ago. I took them around 8pm and had nothing but dilated pupils for 7 hours before i got a MDMA affect which lasted about 15 min. Then I was hallucinating from 3am to 7am. I wasn't able to go to sleep until around 2pm. I felt very sick during all of this also, If you have a dealer trying to sell these to you never go back to him again.
 
My friend got these tested down at his school apparently the yellow ones contain PMA and the green have DXM, they also contain a little MDMA, Methoxy, bzp, and some more other drugs that i don't remember. I personally chewed 2 green and 2 yellow ones a while ago. I took them around 8pm and had nothing but dilated pupils for 7 hours before i got a MDMA affect which lasted about 15 min. Then I was hallucinating from 3am to 7am. I wasn't able to go to sleep until around 2pm. I felt very sick during all of this also, If you have a dealer trying to sell these to you never go back to him again.

yeah why would you take anything with PMA in it...that just sounds horrible:(
 
if they literally felt nothing at all, could be theres duds. BUT if its cause they are so used to piperazine, or research chems, people will claim that its not hitting them, (because theyre accustomed to being fucked up on who knows what and have no idea what mdma feels like) true story. I have read there is cross tolerance between RCs, piperazine, and MDMA. seems like if there was MDA in there it would be very apparent to the consumer
 
I will move this to the ED section and then to the 'Why dont pills/MDMA work' Mega thread - that way you can see some of the reasons that could affect a 'roll'.
 
my friend - Tried different pills, felt absolutely nothing.

Hi all - I just wanted to run something by you. Has anybody here ever taken a pill and then felt absolutely nothing?

So I have a friend, he introduced me to rolling (never heard that word before until I came on here) Anyway, He would have done it a handful of times a year for the past 5 years or so, sometimes maybe only once or twice a year but he was a huge fan. I was a skeptic and he converted me. Anyway - over the past year we have gotten our hands on different types of pills and I have always gotten a great buzz off them, nice loved up buzz but he is getting NOTHING, absolutely nothing. He said he gets a little 'speedy' feeling but its here and gone within a half hour or so, he's not getting any of that loved up feeling that I get. Its not just me and him, my boyfriend and all our friends are having a great time while he is just standing there feeling disappointed and crap. I feel terribly bad for him. He is a huge lover of techno, and even if we go to a gig, with music and people he loves he is still getting absolutely nothing.

So - has anybody got any input / advice on this? Its really getting him down as he now thinks that he might have damaged some receptors in his brain and will never feel anything again.

Also - this guy wouldnt be a massive drinker or weed smoker, nor does he take anyother drugs - he tried ketamine once a couple of years ago and coke once or twice and thats it. He used to have a great time when rolling before - thats how he converted me, he used to have a great old time but he has seriously lost it over the past year. Im actually very worried about him.

Has this happened to anybody else before or do you know of anyone else that this has happened to? Any advice greatly appreciated. I seem to spend most of my buzzing worried about whether he is having a good time or not and I do feel really really bad for him.
 
^why would you take pills that you know contain pipes? Just curious.

Lots of people voluntarily took BZP when it was contained in legal party pills. Sure, it's no MDMA substitute, but people here make out they bring nothing but horrible experiences which nobody would ever want to repeat which just isn't true.
 
^why would you take pills that you know contain pipes? Just curious.

I did that one time with the Blue Rolexs just to know what would happen if I ever got pipes and didn't know. But now I don't take pills anymore so that was kinda a waste lmao. Fun night though.
 
If this is the wrong place to post this question, let me know where I should move it to.

Does anyone know if abilify will diminish or negate the effects of MDMA? I'm on 5mg/day, along with wellbutrin (which I've heard will lengthen the come-up time but otherwise not interfere with the roll). Thanks.
 
Howdy,

I too have had issues feeling anything from ecstasy, but also several other drugs like mushrooms, morning glory seeds, hawaiian baby woodrose seeds, and THC pills. The only drugs that tend to work are those that I smoke, so marijuana and salvia have worked perfectly well.

I've also dabbled in research chemicals and they also did not work for me orally, nor rectally. However, I found a method that worked for me, which was to dissolve my dose (powder) into water, hold it in my mouth for 1 hour, and then swallow, not necessarily on an empty stomach. Doing this, I got 2C-T-4, 2C-D, and 2C-E to work for me. Here's the thread about this: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/553723-2C-D-tolerance-and-what-to-do-about-it

I tried E a couple of years ago to no avail. I know it must have been at least an empathogen if not MDMA because I knew of people who had taken pills from this same batch who said it was the real deal. I took 1/4 pill as a test dose, waited for something like an hour to see if it would have adverse effects or if I would be hypersensitive, and then went ahead and took the rest of a pill. After a considerable amount of time and no effects, I took the other pill. In the end I got no effects at all. It's also worth noting that the whole time I was being impatient and anxious about the experience.

The second time I tried E was yesterday. This time I didn't have round pills with logos on them, instead the E was a white powder enclosed in a gel capsule. These pills are probably MDMA because the friend who acquired them for me called them "pure MDMA." While I know this usually means nothing, she takes pills every weekend and said that she had an intense trip with just a single pill. I'm quite certain I had an empathogen.

This time, my brother joined me for the experience, and he is just as resistant to drugs as I am, except that he can't feel marijuana either! Assuming that we would both have similar issues with regards to taking this type of drug, we administered it sublingually as described above. Not long after waking up, with empty stomachs, we each dissolved 1/8 of a pill in water and held it in our mouths for 30 minutes, then swallowed. We waited 1 hour, everything was good, so we each dissolved the rest of our pill in water, held it in our mouths for 50 minutes, then swallowed. We then each swallowed the gel capsules since some powder had remained stuck.

About 1-2 hours later we ordered pizza and ate. My brother and I smoked a bit of salvia, and surprisingly he felt nothing from it! I also smoked some weed at one point. As far as effects go, he felt pretty much nothing the whole day, whereas I felt nothing particularly special. My body felt heavy for a little while, but the feeling went away, and then my head felt weird for several hours, turning into a headache briefly. My vision also was affected on a few occasions briefly. After smoking weed, I definitely felt something deeper going on underneath the weed buzz, but it didn't develop nor did it last past my high.

I'm confused about why I experienced next to no effects when I both was not anxious this time and I used a method of ingestion that works for research chemicals while simple oral administration does not. I doubt it's because of the pizza we ate, and neither of us takes SSRIs or other medications. However I'm also wondering if the test dose each time could have created extra tolerance before we took the full dose and this may have been the issue?

I have two more of these pills left. I'm thinking of taking them both on an empty stomach using my method. What do you think?
 
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It's a shame there have been no replies.

15 days after first taking the E, I took two capsules and just put them directly under my tongue. I left them there for nearly an hour. By then the capsules had dissolved and my mouth was relatively full of saliva and I swallowed it all. This time I did get effects. While they weren't as mind-blowing as for others, I do believe this was an empathogen. I felt a tingling sensation, a kind of warmth, and I felt a kind of emotional vibe that is still with me as I write this. Most notable was a sense of well-being and contentedness. Smoking marijuana has a nice synergy with it as well.
 
Just wondering if there's anyone to answer this for me in here...

I've been on 20mg flouxetine daily for about 9 months now so I don't roll, but I should be tapering down and coming off in the next 6-9 months. Anyone know approximately how long it might be after coming off it until I get the 'full' effects of MDMA?
 
MDMA and ADHD help?

Theoretical situation? If these are allowed:)

Someone with pretty sever ADHD who does NOT take there meds, doses on pure mdma and doesnt get active, or talk, or move the whole time. Just stares at strobes.
Isn't all that euphoric, and isn't very sociable. A lot like they act on their ADHD meds.

Question 1: If they take their ADHD meds regularly, when they roll, will they be more active? More happy, and more sociable? Like almost EVERYONE else on mdma?
Question 2: If not, is there any other ideas, or anything to get them to roll like "Normal."

For the record, I know drugs affect everyone differently, and it just seems to make this person "Zone out, but in a good way."
It was there first time. Also it was tested, and really good MDMA. (two others were rolling HARD on the same dosage)

Not talkative.
Not much chewing or biting.
Not active.
Not a lot of energy.

Just looking for a theoretical solution for SWIM.

Any and all answers appreciated. :)
 
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