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just like with standard ganja brownies, you want to place your oil/butter (1/3 cup for most box-brownie recipes) into a small pan on low heat. add the measured quantity of JWH into the oil and stir well to dissolve. it should all dissolve into the oil with gentle heating. then you let it cool to room temperature and proceed with the directions on the box.
 
Can anyone tell me about how much stronger 018 is than 073 and 250? Ive been browsing trip reports and the like and am getting conflicting answers(IE some say they use 2x as much 073 while some only used 3-4 more mgs). As for 250, Im having trouble finding anything comparing the dose of it and 018. I can comfortably smoke 8-10mgs of 018 and am trying to come up with a good starting dose for the other two.
 
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JWH flies... I don't know what it is but tolerance builds so rapidly I multiply my dose by 20 over the course of a week with -018 which is supposed to be the strongest and it didn't last long by the end of the bag.

Anyone have any info on JWH-250? A review would be nice maybe compared to the others. I read somewhere that half of them aren't worth it
 
How do you assure that each brownie has 20mg in it? That's a lot of even mixing to do lol - I've thought about doing that but you can just sprinkle this onto whatever you like and eat it and it works wonders. Hell, I just took 30mg in a shot of poweraid - it's got almost no discernible taste to me.

Exactly, there's really no need to goto the trouble of mixing JWH's into food.

You can just swallow them as is and it works great.

The compounds don't even taste bad.
 
Exactly, there's really no need to goto the trouble of mixing JWH's into food.

You can just swallow them as is and it works great.

The compounds don't even taste bad.

I wish I had saved some 018 to eat from last batch now :(
 
Exactly, there's really no need to goto the trouble of mixing JWH's into food.

You can just swallow them as is and it works great.

The compounds don't even taste bad.

HOLY CRAP!

after i read this i tossed back anywhere from 15-30 mg of -018 and 10-20 mg of-073...

1 hour later and i was blasteeedddd... and it lasted for 3+ hours

Eating this stuff is beyond awesome

EDIT: Miscalculated and must have taken in excess of 75 total mg...

I was gone...and out of it all day today...
 
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HOLY CRAP!

after i read this i tossed back anywhere from 15-30 mg of -018 and 10-20 mg of-073...

1 hour later and i was blasteeedddd... and it lasted for 3+ hours

Eating this stuff is beyond awesome


I smoked more than that at a time finishing my last bag over the course of tolerance rising ridiculously over the course of a week, and damnit my reliable source is out of stock too, how is JWH-250 compared to 018 anyway? I can order some of that I guess if it's not a bad deal.
 
i personally have terrible success "just tossing back" JWH. I used acetone to infuse altoids with 3mg JWH-018 each, and I was able to consume 10 of these dried mints with ZERO effect from the JWH. I had read reports online that gelcaps of JWH on an empty stomach give very unreliable effects due to poor absorption (same problem that lipophilic THC has if you just eat bud). thus the dissolution into a quickly-metabolized fat. i have also read that JWH dissolved into everclear (pseudo-green-dragon style) gives a dysphoric high but I haven't had the chance to try it myself yet.

If you dissolve it into fat, you can even control how quickly the JWH enters your bloodstream. Just like cannabis, the JWH is carried around while bound to the fat and then released once in the blood. Different fats are absorbed at different rates. Saturated fats and mixtures that are high in saturated fats (milkfat, butter, chocolate, coconut oil, peanut oil, all the 'solid fats') are sent straight to the liver for metabolism into energy by the body, so JWH or THC in butter is the quickest to hit.

Unsaturated fats (the liquid oils like olive oil, grapeseed, "good for you" oils) hang around in the gut much longer before they are sent around the body, so the high may not kick in for 2-3 hours but it will be very mellow and long-lasting once it arrives.
 
i'm learning how to smoke out of this pipe now or my body has started accepting the drug more. I'm getting a lot higher than I was and thats just residue left in there from before. It's gradually gone brown but still works.
 
So do the different jhw's produce a cross tolerance with each other? That is, if I go through a bunch of 073 for a few weeks, will that have a bearing on how much 018 will be needed once I start using that one?
 
All those prepackaged blends are pure robbery.

Yeah you can buy 1-2g of pure JWH for the price of the maybe 50-100mg in a bag of herbal stuff. I'm making that up too it could be less.

Making smoking blends sounds cool but dangerous... I can't wait to get this JWH-250, it is stronger than 018 so apparently it is crazy orally.
 
UM Yes, but the jwhs (spice, spike, space) are 4 - 10 times stronger than pot. Careful, really careful. It's not like a joint thing, it's like start out with 2 mgs with the wanna-bes, seriously.
 
Yeah you can buy 1-2g of pure JWH for the price of the maybe 50-100mg in a bag of herbal stuff. I'm making that up too it could be less.

Making smoking blends sounds cool but dangerous... I can't wait to get this JWH-250, it is stronger than 018 so apparently it is crazy orally.

I never tried it orally, but in my opion, the strongest is 018. Careful
 
It's gradually gone brown but still works.

It shouldn't. It should go clear like a small puddle of transparent goop, then evaporate. Color after evaporation likely means you've got a cut product.


So do the different jhw's produce a cross tolerance with each other?

Yes, and with cannabis.


I can't wait to get this JWH-250, it is stronger than 018 so apparently it is crazy orally.

IMO same strength.
 
It shouldn't. It should go clear like a small puddle of transparent goop, then evaporate. Color after evaporation likely means you've got a cut product.




Yes, and with cannabis.




IMO same strength.

Hmm 018 is more than 2x as expensive for me now with my good supplier ditching it for -250, how is the duration?
 
Hmmm... I do find tolerance builds very fast with the synth-cannabs, but for me it doesn't seem to impact the effect of weed. Strange.

I was doubling, tripling, quadrupling the amounts of jwh073 and winfx to get a good effect, but plain old trusty herb still got me where I wanted to go with the same amount. Anyone else find that??
 
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