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What's the deal here? Why does no one have any concrete answers after 3 years of JWH-XXX on the scene?

By now everyone knows everything about the 2C-series (perhaps due to Shuglin's efforts) and other "mainstream" RCs

But no one knows much about the cancer properties of some of the JWH-series.

Can anyone explain in further depth?
 
Volcano said:
By now everyone knows everything about the 2C-series (perhaps due to Shuglin's efforts) and other "mainstream" RCs

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Uh. Just what 2C's or other RCs do people, "know everything about"? I don't believe much research has been done on them; certainly not on carcinogenic potential. Shulgin was just a chemist, he didn't do any pharmacological research.
 
I feel very unsure about the smoking/vaping methods of use...this stuff needs to be orally ingested for safety...

granted i havnt eaten any yet...and im baked on like 6 mg of -018 + residual -073...
 
just wait till you get into trippy amounts. eating is fun, but you deff have to eat a bit more than normal IMO. Hard to really tell with my tolerance now though.
 
Does anyone feel like there's a benefit to vaping the herbal blends I bought until I can make my own blends? (My vendor of choice is still on summer break)
 
chainer3k said:
just wait till you get into trippy amounts. eating is fun, but you deff have to eat a bit more than normal IMO. Hard to really tell with my tolerance now though.
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I get the feeling that this stuff is re crystalizing in my airway....my lips get this residue on them, and it feels like my whole throat is getting fucked...is a base/meth pipe or w.e not the best way to do this?
 
^JWH Doesn't recrystallize once vaporized. Vaping is a fine ROA, I prefer putting some ontop of some tea leaf in a bowl and slowly roasting it. I also enjoy dipping my cigs in a large baggie of the stuff.
 
chainer3k said:
eating is fun, but you deff have to eat a bit more than normal IMO.
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I agree, I find that I need about 12-15 mgs of jwh-018 to get where I want to be when I eat it, where as 3-4 mgs vaped. The high from taking it orally is much more euphoric in my opinion and it lasts a good amount of time, like 6 hours or so. I just take it orally as is and don't dissolve it into solution. I feel it starting to kick in after about 40 minutes and by an hour It's in full effect. It feels more psychedelic when eaten and I have never noticed even a hint of anxiety. Though even when vaping the substance anxiety hasn't really been an issue for me, but their have been moments where things got intense and I had to lay down for a couple minutes. Like expected the effects from taking it orally appear more gradually and it seems like a safer form of ingestion. The high also has more of warm and glowing feel for me, I enjoy it quite a bit.
 
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Do spice and ke have the same side effects as cannabis?

Do they cause dry mouth, eye redness and increased appetite for example?

*k2 I meant.
 
i say dry mouth, red eyes, and appetite are all VERY prominent for JWH compounds.

the ratio of side effects : euphoric effects (couch lock, head high) is worse for vaporization. oral ingestion has much smoother onset, longer plateau, and uses about the same amount of material compared to vaporization.

i'm very serious, anyone who has not tried these compounds orally is missing out on the best cheap weed replacement ever.

dissolve your standard smoked dose (5-10mg or more if highly tolerant) into a spoonful of butter or oil in a pan on low heat. absorb the fat with a small slice of bread and enjoy on an empty stomach. kicks in around an hour and the high lasts 4-6 hours.

JWH makes a very powerful odorless brownie when added in the correct proportions (ie, for a 12-brownie pan, add 240mg JWH and you'll have 20mg each brownie) start with half of one, and eat the other half to prolong the high at T+4h.
 
Green, I use ~40mg orally. I only started smoking/vaping and making my own blends with this stuff a month ago. Tolerance with this can build dramatically for some people :) I suggest 10mg orally to those who know they enjoy the smoked effect - it certainly takes a bit larger dose for me at least.


How do you assure that each brownie has 20mg in it? That's a lot of even mixing to do lol - I've thought about doing that but you can just sprinkle this onto whatever you like and eat it and it works wonders. Hell, I just took 30mg in a shot of poweraid - it's got almost no discernible taste to me.
 
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