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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 4

Synthetic cannabinoid 2014.

There are a lot of people out there who benefit from synthetic cannabinoid. The banning of synthetic cannabinoids and legalization of real cannabis is of no use for someone like myself. I'm a man who cannot smoke marijuana due to its long half life. Synthetic cannabinoids are very appealing because of their short half life. What canibinoids are still legal to posses in the US as of today? Which one would help you go to sleep? Sorry if you were expecting a detailed thread but I am no expert on these matters.
 
My supplier lists the following as legal world wide as of Jan 1st 2014

2NE1
5F-akb48
5F-pb22
Bb22
Sts-135

But as always look up current laws that apply to you before ordering.

I've only tried two but the rest should arrive this week

5F-akb48 - if consider this a mood stabelizer. Equivalent to taking like 2.5-5mg loratab.

5F-pb22 - sleepy. Usually had me asleep by the third hit.

These two make a great combination with like a 3/5 pb/abk ratio.
 
Bb-25 is a very chill noid, minimal head stone, but strong body high, and it has a long duration. Mixes very well with akb48.

OP the banning of current-gen noids is also a big concern to me. I wonder if they'll ban the whole lot, or pick them off one by one? I just hope there are some very clever Chinese chemists out there working on a next gen; I really don't want the noid game to end.

On a plus side, just before they ban something, the vendors pretty much "fire sale" their existing stock, meaning you can pick up large quantities at ridiculously low prices, at least according to another BL'er who was telling me about when they banned the last generation.
 
ILCM (I love chocolate milk) the company who used to mass produce the tubes of black manna, funky monkey, power diesle and so on on the last ban string you could buy 100 5g tubes from them for about $350

They are however no longer in buisness
 
Anyone else getting hangovers from using synthetics with / after dissociatives? The headaches are really bad sometimes :/
 
Just like to add if your mail goes through isc Chicago ohare be ready for a 16 day delay. Second time they've held my package
 
5F-PB22 or AB-Fubinaca usually, those are my two favourites of the current 'noids. 5F-PB22 is definitely worse when it comes to side effects but I prefer using it with dissociatives because of it's short duration of action (meaning too much won't throw you into some 3 hour long hole as it can with AB-Fubinaca when taken orally)

Btw if anyone is smoking their AB-Fubinaca I advice you to stop doing it since it's just as potent orally and lasts 3 times longer.

5F-AKB48 with dissociatives causes terrible physical side effects always, so if anyone is planning this combo, just don't.
 
I've made a blend with all three of these in one blend; I made it quite mild in strength, and haven't fucked up with it. I did try smoking all 3 pure noids in a blend, and had a major "whitey"-not pleasant at all.
 
Never even heard of them, tbh-are they currently on the market, cause I've never seen them.

I've never been into dissacociatives myself, but I'm soon trying some that MXP, so I guess I won't mix it with noids just in case.
 
the other one is better Diphenidine is nice i think :)

THJ-2201
1-​[(5-​fluoropentyl)-​1H-​indazol-​3-​yl](naphthalen-​1-​yl)methanone
(1-(5-fluoropentyl)-3-(naphthalene-1-carbonyl)-1H-indazole)
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This is the indazole analogue of AM-2201 (meaning it is UK-legal)
Just noticed at at a big UK vendor, saw no thread for it here so made one.

Dose unknown (likely to be single-mg's or lower though) and it is bloody cheap.
Have been aware of the compound (and other similar ones) for a while but didn't know they were ever actually was on the market.

THJ-018
1-​naphthalenyl(1-​pentyl-​1H-​indazol-​3-​yl)-​methanone
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This is the indazole analogue of JWH-018 (meaning it is UK-legal)
Just noticed at at a big UK vendor, saw no thread for it here so made one

Dose unknown (likely to be single-mg's or lower though) and it is bloody cheap.
Have been aware of the compound for a while but didn't know it ever actually was on the market.

sorry just cut and pasted this form another site
 
Very interesting, and useful information to know; I wonder how they stack up against the current generation of noids? Speaking of which, how long have the current ones been around for now? (I'm pretty new to noids, and missed out on the JWH series)

Yeah, I was gonna go for either the MXP or diphenidine; it's gonna be my first experiment with disassociatives. I was thinking of ordering some etaqualone-it's an analogue of methaqualone or Qualuude's as they were known, but I've heard bad reports of this.
 
Toz said:
I read some negative reviews about THJ-018. It seems impotent and short lasting.
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I would avoid it just because of the napthelene carcinogen.

THJ-2201 has the potential to be just as short acting and addictive as AM-2201, read the reviews and horror stories as drugsforum.com
 
Toz said:
5F-PB22 or AB-Fubinaca usually, those are my two favourites of the current 'noids. 5F-PB22 is definitely worse when it comes to side effects but I prefer using it with dissociatives because of it's short duration of action (meaning too much won't throw you into some 3 hour long hole as it can with AB-Fubinaca when taken orally)

Btw if anyone is smoking their AB-Fubinaca I advice you to stop doing it since it's just as potent orally and lasts 3 times longer.
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I've found oral dosing with most of the noids I've tried to be more of a body high than head buzz.

like microdots compared to LsD.

some people seem to enjoy that, being stuck on the couch lock, or uncontrollable laughter etc, but not me so much, I prefer to keep it in the dome for creative purposes.
 
Toz said:
Anyone else getting hangovers from using synthetics with / after dissociatives? The headaches are really bad sometimes :/
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what part of the brain are the headaches in?

the front or back?

the reason i ask is there is a risk associated with fluorotoxicity of fluoropentyl-indoles, we talked about before being linked to even numbered fluoropentyl chains and the hypothalamus.
 
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